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F1 2017 Steering wheel problems (Logitech G27)

Hello everyone,

I am playing for the first time a racing simulator (F1 2017) with a Logitech G27 a friend is lending me (he never played a F1 game with this wheel, but said he has no issues on other games).
I tried out a lot of settings in the configurations of F1 2017 and on the Logitech profiler, but I still find the control of the steering very unprecise and impossible to drive precisely or have a realistic experience. 

The best control I got when leaving everything at the calibration menu at 0, while raising the wheel weight to 60 and reducing to a minimum all other force feedback effects. I can handle the corners now, but on the straights, I have to constantly adjust to stay on the line and the driving feeling is just completely unnatural. Coming out of the turn back to straight is also a hassle. Basically, as soon as the wheel is at the range of -15° to +15°, everything becomes "wobbly".
I played around with the steering linearity, but it didn´t solve the problem, nor did changing the wheel rotation from 200° to 360°. I read a lot about the input lag of the steering wheel animation, which I can clearly see, but I wonder if my actual car reaction is also lagging. As I play on my laptop, I reduced all graphic details to the minimum.

I find the game totally stunning and would like to keep on playing as I started to become an F1 fan the last years, but at the moment it is not worth it. So if someone has some suggestions how to set up things properly, please let me know.

Bye,
Julian

Here are some characteristics of my computer:
Asus UX310UQ
Win10 x64
i5-6200U CPU (2,3GHz)
8 GB-Ram
Nvidea GeForce 940mx

Comments

  • steviejay69steviejay69 Member Race Steward
    I doubt 940MX is sufficient to give enough frames. Put the Steam FPS counter on and see what you get.

    If you can't make 60FPS then it's gonna suck a bit as input lag is there at 60FPS. You need to hit nearer 100FPS to get something not laggy but then you're into more powerful hardware than a laptop usually has. I would say 1050Ti would be capable on low/medium settings.
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  • PorschiPorschi Member New Car Smell
    edited April 21
    I am doomed, even the steam FPS counter is not working. I have the steam overlay activated and I can spam ****+tab as much as I want.

    Anyway, I doubt I will have 100 FPS. But can you explain me why it is so important to be over 60 FPS?
    I read that other people have the problem that the steering wheel animation is laggy, put the car reacts properly. Why is the reaction of the car influenced by the FPS?
  • steviejay69steviejay69 Member Race Steward
    Porschi said:
    I am doomed, even the steam FPS counter is not working. I have the steam overlay activated and I can spam ****+tab as much as I want.

    Anyway, I doubt I will have 100 FPS. But can you explain me why it is so important to be over 60 FPS?
    I read that other people have the problem that the steering wheel animation is laggy, put the car reacts properly. Why is the reaction of the car influenced by the FPS?
    Basically a lot of games suffer with the same thing. Polling the controller for updates can happen at given intervals or it can be buffered (like a keyboard). I guess just because the hardware can update the screen more often you get a higher resolution and more updates, If the frame rate slows the input lag will be huge because the you are always seeing things many fractions of a second after you've been polled or buffered. (Tendency is to over input and then be in a over counter-balancing feedback loop).

    You can read a 100 articles trying to explain it more technically but it affects things with all kinds of different game engines.
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  • PorschiPorschi Member New Car Smell
    Thank you for that explanation. 

    So it seems like I am not getting around a proper desktop computer. I thought I could get along with my laptop just to play a little bit fun.
  • PorschiPorschi Member New Car Smell
    I kept trying a lot of different settings and I don´t think my frame rate is the issue. I came to the conclusion that either my steering wheel got a technical problem, or that F1 2017 just has an incredible unrealistic driving feeling. I would like to know what others think about that last statement.

    I switched off all other force feedback effects and only played around with the wheel weight through the full range:
    At low values (0-30), the wheel is so loose that I have the feeling I am driving on ice. In corners, the wheel starts to kick in very unnaturally, trying to push back with hard and short kicks. You can even here the whole wheel and table vibrating. This is far away from the natural tendency of a steering wheel to go progressively and smooth back into a neutral position while going through a turn.

    At higher values (everything up to 100), the general resistance of the wheels starts to feel more realistic, but this "digital-kicks" trying to push back into a neutral position are just terrible and absolutely unrealistic that I can´t keep the car on the racing line.

    I found a lot of videos on youtube who to refix the optical sensor of a G27. How can I test that the sensor is loose?
  • Skt777Skt777 Member New Car Smell
    Hey Porschi, I'm having the same problems with my GT27. Although mine is a little different as it has worked perfectly and now suddenly now has input lag which has made it virtually impossible to drive. Same thing down the straight as well. The wheel just seems to now have this dead zone in the FFB and the car just wont track straight any more. 
    I have the latest Dell XPS 15 with the 1050 and it has worked great until now. 
    Possibly an driver update issue but it seems to have changed after updating to the latest MS April 2018 for Windows 10.
    I use the Logitech profiler and have tried every setting combination under the sun with it overriding and not overriding the game.
    Its basically unusable
  • steviejay69steviejay69 Member Race Steward
    Skt777 said:
    Hey Porschi, I'm having the same problems with my GT27. Although mine is a little different as it has worked perfectly and now suddenly now has input lag which has made it virtually impossible to drive. Same thing down the straight as well. The wheel just seems to now have this dead zone in the FFB and the car just wont track straight any more. 
    I have the latest Dell XPS 15 with the 1050 and it has worked great until now. 
    Possibly an driver update issue but it seems to have changed after updating to the latest MS April 2018 for Windows 10.
    I use the Logitech profiler and have tried every setting combination under the sun with it overriding and not overriding the game.
    Its basically unusable

    Make sure you use USB 2.0 port not USB 3.0


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