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UK / Wales stages in DR2 ?

BusterbviBusterbvi Member Pit Crew
Very pleased to see the new international stages in DR2, not sure that the USA is needed, not renowned for its interest in Rallying, its all NASCAR, Drag racing and Indy nonsense over there !
I have not seen any mention of UK / Wales stages ? Can someone confirm that these new countries are in addition to what was there in DR1 ?


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  • Oscar97Oscar97 Member Pit Crew
    DR 2.0 will feature New Zealand, Autralia, Spain, Poland, Argentina and the USA at launch, nothing more.
  • Madhun1967Madhun1967 Member Pit Crew
    edited December 2018
    Busterbvi said:
    Very pleased to see the new international stages in DR2, not sure that the USA is needed, not renowned for its interest in Rallying, its all NASCAR, Drag racing and Indy nonsense over there !
    I have not seen any mention of UK / Wales stages ? Can someone confirm that these new countries are in addition to what was there in D
    you could have been a littel more tactful in that US statement, but whatever.Makes it more appealing ,as its a huge market potential for Codies over here in the US.
  • BusterbviBusterbvi Member Pit Crew
    For the love of God ! what are they thinking ? The UK is the home of Rallying, especially Wales. Dump the USA and get the Wales stages back in. Beggars belief !
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  • BusterbviBusterbvi Member Pit Crew
    Busterbvi said:
    Very pleased to see the new international stages in DR2, not sure that the USA is needed, not renowned for its interest in Rallying, its all NASCAR, Drag racing and Indy nonsense over there !
    I have not seen any mention of UK / Wales stages ? Can someone confirm that these new countries are in addition to what was there in D
    you could have been a littel more tactful in that US statement, but whatever.Makes it more appealing ,as its a huge market potential for Codies over here in the US.
    Been involved in Rallying all my life, never noticed any significant interest in it from the States.
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  • RodgerDaviesRodgerDavies Member Champion
    Whilst I'm surprised that they've completely discarded DR1's superb stages thus far, let's wait and see what the DLC plans are; it's been hinted some DR1 locations may return.
    Put the Stratos back in H2 please!!!
  • BusterbviBusterbvi Member Pit Crew
    edited December 2018
    Whilst I'm surprised that they've completely discarded DR1's superb stages thus far, let's wait and see what the DLC plans are; it's been hinted some DR1 locations may return.
    Lets hope so Rodger, seems like absolute madness to exclude the UK, surely the best market for Codies. Can't believe Monte is out, crazy !


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  • RallycameramanRallycameraman Member Champion
    I’m glad we’re getting new locations. We don’t know the DLC plans yet, so let’s just wait and see. 
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  • BusterbviBusterbvi Member Pit Crew

    I'm all for new locations, good news indeed but some bizarre choices, I would suggest keep Wales and  expand the UK stages to the Keilder and Grisdale forrest complex's. Include some Scottish and Irish locations. Finland and Monte must be keepers. USA and Argentina... really !?

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  • KingOfCoinsKingOfCoins Member Champion
    I'd prefer getting some fresh stages instead of retreading the same old locations every single rally game. The world of rallying is much bigger than the WRC

    and yes Argentina. Monte and Finland can easily be replaced with other rallies with similar characteristics.


    Also, I agree on some Irish/Manx tarmac. We need more of that
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  • BusterbviBusterbvi Member Pit Crew
    Totally agree with fresh stages but I think Codies are shooting themselvs in the foot excluding UK.  An all tarmac Manx would be awesome. The UK should be the core of it and USA, Argentina etc offerd as DLC if demand exists. I see it as a deal breaker for many.
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  • BusterbviBusterbvi Member Pit Crew
    Busterbvi said:
    Totally agree with fresh stages but I think Codies are shooting themselvs in the foot excluding UK.  An all tarmac Manx would be awesome. The UK should be the core of it and USA, Argentina etc offerd as DLC if demand exists. I see it as a deal breaker for many.
    Wales is one of, if not, my favorite locations in DR. That being said, I'm against such a UK centered game. DiRT is not the official BRC game and it's aiming for a global audience. Varied locations, all around the world, are a must right on the base product.

     Fair enough but why exclude UK ?


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  • Oscar97Oscar97 Member Pit Crew
    Busterbvi said:
    Busterbvi said:
    Totally agree with fresh stages but I think Codies are shooting themselvs in the foot excluding UK.  An all tarmac Manx would be awesome. The UK should be the core of it and USA, Argentina etc offerd as DLC if demand exists. I see it as a deal breaker for many.
    Wales is one of, if not, my favorite locations in DR. That being said, I'm against such a UK centered game. DiRT is not the official BRC game and it's aiming for a global audience. Varied locations, all around the world, are a must right on the base product.

     Fair enough but why exclude UK ?


    They're not excluding UK. We've had Wales in DR and D4, maybe it's time for something else.
  • warpengagewarpengage Member Team Principal
    Busterbvi said:
    Busterbvi said:
    Totally agree with fresh stages but I think Codies are shooting themselvs in the foot excluding UK.  An all tarmac Manx would be awesome. The UK should be the core of it and USA, Argentina etc offerd as DLC if demand exists. I see it as a deal breaker for many.
    Wales is one of, if not, my favorite locations in DR. That being said, I'm against such a UK centered game. DiRT is not the official BRC game and it's aiming for a global audience. Varied locations, all around the world, are a must right on the base product.

     Fair enough but why exclude UK ?


    Why include it? It's a great rally, but there are many other great forest rallies out there that deserve a chance at the spotlight. It may also be a licensing issue or they may be working hard to make the location even better. Everyone has favorite events, but I'm willing to give all of them a shot.
  • euphoreoneuphoreon Member New Car Smell
    Really wonder why they put USA in there again, like... who wanted that? Same goes for Spain and Aussie, surely add those as DLC or something. 
  • RodgerDaviesRodgerDavies Member Champion
    euphoreon said:
    Really wonder why they put USA in there again, like... who wanted that? Same goes for Spain and Aussie, surely add those as DLC or something. 

    All three of those were also in Dirt 4 and we didn't really get to enjoy them at the same level as the DR1 stages, so I'm glad we'll get to. Did you see the Spain and Poland footage from the latest stream? Both looked great to me (and hopefully are only half the kilometres in those locations at minimum). 

    I think there's always someone in the corner of meetings at Codemasters saying "don't forget the US market" because some of that content does feel a little out of place (see also Camaro and Mustang rally cars in the RGT class), but I'm up for expanding my rally horizons. Check out some footage from Lake Superior Performance Rally on YouTube and tell me you don't want to try those stages with a 911 or an R5 car.
    Put the Stratos back in H2 please!!!
  • tbtstttbtstt Member Champion
    edited January 1

    I think there's always someone in the corner of meetings at Codemasters saying "don't forget the US market" because some of that content does feel a little out of place (see also Camaro and Mustang rally cars in the RGT class)
    This is my biggest gripe with DR 2.0 so far. Inappropriate cars (for rally) is something we haven't seen since DiRT 2, like you say I wonder if these are in to pander to a particular market.

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  • RodgerDaviesRodgerDavies Member Champion
    tbtstt said:

    I think there's always someone in the corner of meetings at Codemasters saying "don't forget the US market" because some of that content does feel a little out of place (see also Camaro and Mustang rally cars in the RGT class)
    This is my biggest gripe with DR 2.0 so far. Inappropriate cars (for rally) is something we haven't seen since DiRT 2, like you say I wonder if these are in to pander to a particular market.

    Weirdly enough, because I didn't expect to be, I'm quite excited by the concept. I think it's because I keep hoping the RGT class will take off properly in real life and so it's exciting to see what it 'could' be to me. And a competitive RWD class is what the real rally world is missing most at the moment IMO.

    Aside from the obvious Porsche and the Abarth, there are several others I'd like to see in the class based on GT4 cars (Nissan 370Z, BMW M4) which would be more appropriate than the big US cars, but as long as they treat them as they are in real life (competitive on tarmac, terrible on loose) then I hope they develop it further.
    Put the Stratos back in H2 please!!!
  • gk9147gk9147 Member Unleaded
    ken block for rally  ( with escort ) , travis pastrana for hill climb and  rally ( with subaru ) , and tanner foust for rallycross ( with volkswagen ) and you said amercan don't like offroad race in usa  , really ?   ( look the video ) and for wales, wait its possible this country come in DLC ( maybe the  2 first  season dlc list is announced by jon, ross or christina in codemasters blog or new trailer .
    (sorry for my bad ponctuation )

  • WRCFocusLiveWRCFocusLive Member New Car Smell
    Surely Wales UK and Finland Thousand lakes are a MUST for any serious Rally Sim ? Two events that hold up as the very foundations of the long history and DNA of timed trials and point to point Motor Rally. 
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