Really don't understand why the exterior view are avaible in "sim mode" on DiRT 4....It' s a no sense...
The problem is the same since DR and now D4....
Inside view (Cockpit or dashbord) are so much difficult, for many, many, many reasons, than bonnet view, most view played for sure...
But the leaderbord is the same one...Not possible and zero interest to run togheter, and compare time !
If the leaderbord are not splitted, those game really need a filter by view (inside/outside), like the filter (assist on/assist off).
Equality question Codemasters , first rules in sport !!!
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No, bonnet cam is what works for me (and many others), so that is what we will use.
If playing "sim game" in a bonnet view is your idea of "sim racing", well...Really not mine, ever...
The strange think so, why upload your video in Cockpit view...?
Think 80% of bonnet view player can' t set the same time in a inside view...but, they trust the leaderbord, easy way, unfair way...
So, is it indecent to ask a filter view inside/outside, to compare what is comparable...
Sorry, but an exterior view in a "sim mode"...Just ridicoulous...
Also, bonnet view is not really an exterior camera. A Dirt developer said so himself, though I don't remember who... but it was on the Steam forums.
More than try to find wobbly arguments, you can answer at the question about the filter, only way to have the equality..!
A reason that i really like iRacing ! Same rules for all "sim racers", just basics...
Maybe somebody that cares about results can answer.
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- Seat always at the center of the car (right or left hand drive)...
- Never have any rain on the windshield, a windshield broken, windscreen wiper running...
- and so many détails, but sorry, havn't the words in english, but everybody see what i mean...
Or maybe, he can' t set a correct time in a inside view, not the only one...
Using cockpit view on a single screen is anyting but realistic. We have already missing inputs from seat of pants and many other sensory information. Crippling our main input, the driving view, with a tiny 2D window for our field of view is not making it any more realistic.
The cockpit view is quite unrealistic, unless you have a triple screen setup or at least something like TrackIR.
This goes especially for a rally game, where you are supposed to go sideways, which is indeed even more hard when you are unable to look into the direction you're going but instead are forced to always look straight out of the car.
So, you "want" everyone using cockpit cam, in a Sim, but then doesn't someone who has big triples wouldn't be in advantage over someone who plays on a (e.g.) 19" single screen?
I play in Hood/Bonnet cam ( single screen here ) exactly because of what @Porkhammer says in his first post. Altough, i agree that Leaderboards should have way more Filters, being what cam/view you play, one of them.
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Codies could have just tied it to the fearless difficulty aswell, there are ways to solve these kind of issues but I don't think CM really care about that part of their game.
And mister "I don't care about anything, but feel the need to justify everything" is just cute. Who would restrict your views? NOBODY, you allegedly don't care about leaderboards or MP so who would exactly stop you from using bonnet if CM included an option for people in fearless mode to be thrown together in MP/Leaderboards (for example, other ways to solve this aswell).
The only problem I see with this is that the almost lifeless MP part of the game would be dead for the few people who try to race with inside views only.
You calling me "little man", and telling me to "pet a dog" is more belitteling and unpolite than me writing one word in all caps. You were not asking anything, there wasn't even a questionmark in your sentence. "I don't see why I should X because of few people Y" is usually a very entiteled position and apparently that can't be too far off since I have struck a nerve here it seems.
Have a nice day.
Because of the way the eye works with its depth of field and focus, when you drive a car pretty much a 100% of your vision is the outside. There is really nothing "simulation" about cockpits in games. The most realistic simulation, given that a screen is flat, would be just the outside, with maybe a blurry edge of the windscreen at the very edges, just for effect. PCars almost nailed that, but even they zoomed out too much.
But, it' s not the question of the tread...I want remember it, guys !
Can we run in a same leaderbord or without filters for an so huge difference of difficulty ? Equality question....
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