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Racing against the AI help

JernzzeoJernzzeo Member New Car Smell
I've always been a fan of racing games. I play roughly about 3-4 hours daily and for the love of cookies and cream, I can't seem to get into the elite 110% AI club. I usually race at 101% and that itself takes alot of concentration from me whereas when I see people like Aarava and Tiametmarduk racing at 110% so casually whilst providing commentary, it makes me feel bad man. I've tried racing against the 110% AI on qualifying (using flashbacks to try to get the perfect lap) and I'm always too slow no matter how perfect I feel the lap went out to be (no assists btw). For example, the 110% AI at China qualifies at around the medium 1:32's (Hamilton) and I'm always about 7-9 tenths off the pace using Bottas (despite using multiple flashbacks). So I'm reaching out to those of you who race at 110% casually for some advice and tips to get me to where I want to be. Cheers!

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  • KrisperfectlineKrisperfectline Member Unleaded
    China... Obvious track for slow in fast out. Suggest 3rd gear at the hairpin after the first sector and not 2nd. Also, try short shifting at the snail section before the long back straight, I think once you hit 5th, you should easily go full throttle or even high 4th gear. China has lots of slow in fast out sections. The final corner is one of those, I normally brake just before the banner of the straight leading into it and then clip the apex, then just full throttle immediately. The Mercedes seems to do well with it. Just be careful not to be to eager with the Mercedes on the throttle, because the rear is not that stable. Try playing with the brake bias because I gained 2 tenths by just switching the brake bias forward from 50 to 57%, in the first sector. It felt normal and I barely noticed that I gained that amount of time in comparison to most of my laps. 

    I have never been a great qualifier, I am more in the race where the smart driving is present. But, in the race all I just wrote helped me gained time in China. If you happen to lose the rear of the Mercedes, quickly lift off the throttle then plant it back and it should stick. This only happens once you realise that it will step out. But once it does step out, it does not work. In Career mode, I have gone for chassis upgrade on my Mercedes because I can control the rear end and Mercedes would be superb with some chassis upgrades since it is their weakest department.
  • JR6492JR6492 Member Unleaded
    @Krisperfectline

    any tips for Bahrain man?
  • 1512marcel1512marcel Member, Drivers Race Engineer
    First you go out and dust of the track, that surely helps...             
  • ale85bgale85bg Member New Car Smell
    edited November 3
    JR6492 said:
    @Krisperfectline

    any tips for Bahrain man?
    Me too! I've always struggled there too especially in F1 2010, even if the 2010 layout is by far the one I like the most.
    Silver lining: if they shortened it again in the future we'd just end up with the main straight (so it would be way easier to master).

    Seroiusly though, I found the "track acclimatisation" tutorials to work fine if you're stubborn and refuse to use the racing line even on the tracks you don't know (much like me).
  • inspiretheworldinspiretheworld Member Petrol Head
    You just have to go out there, push the car to its limits and find out where you can gain time. There is lots of things that contribute towards extracting the best lap times. 
    Setups, braking at the correct place, being in the right gear around corners, racing lines, being full throttle when you don't think you can. Once you've mastered these things then you'll progress. 
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  • AceHasnain282AceHasnain282 Member New Car Smell
    Jernzzeo said:
    I've always been a fan of racing games. I play roughly about 3-4 hours daily and for the love of cookies and cream, I can't seem to get into the elite 110% AI club. I usually race at 101% and that itself takes alot of concentration from me whereas when I see people like Aarava and Tiametmarduk racing at 110% so casually whilst providing commentary, it makes me feel bad man. I've tried racing against the 110% AI on qualifying (using flashbacks to try to get the perfect lap) and I'm always too slow no matter how perfect I feel the lap went out to be (no assists btw). For example, the 110% AI at China qualifies at around the medium 1:32's (Hamilton) and I'm always about 7-9 tenths off the pace using Bottas (despite using multiple flashbacks). So I'm reaching out to those of you who race at 110% casually for some advice and tips to get me to where I want to be. Cheers!
    Maybe try watching hotlaps from theflyingfinn and trl limitless, and compare them to yours or something, also tiametmarduk and aarava usually do post comms, but I do get what you're trying to say, I've just been trying to improve slowly I think I'm on 104 AI now after starting on 95
  • JR6492JR6492 Member Unleaded
    ale85bg said:
    JR6492 said:
    @Krisperfectline

    any tips for Bahrain man?
    Me too! I've always struggled there too especially in F1 2010, even if the 2010 layout is by far the one I like the most.
    Silver lining: if they shortened it again in the future we'd just end up with the main straight (so it would be way easier to master).

    Seroiusly though, I found the "track acclimatisation" tutorials to work fine if you're stubborn and refuse to use the racing line even on the tracks you don't know (much like me).
    Yeah I know mate I’ve been practicing it there the last few days it’s an easy layout but there’s a lot of time to be lost in some of the corners.

    from practice I think I gained a second on my best TT time I got a 1.28.9XX. Don’t know how people are getting 1.25. Thought quickest non assist user I see is a 1.27
  • haydn23haydn23 Member Petrol Head
    I suppose, ur using a setup first of all. But also Ben and Aarva don't commentate while driving they do the commentary after, when the video is edited. I don't actly play career mode, all this info is coming from the practice I did for AOR split 4. So china, as he said above is very much slow in and fast out. Alot can be lost thru t1+2, thru a lack of bravery and trust in the car, I would avise practicing in say timed trial, your line through there. Also abuse the **** out of engine braking on a quali lap, ofc not thru the race cause if u abuse engine braking anywhere as near as much as I do, u probably won't make the end of the race. 

    Bahrain is a track where you need to use high gears. For example turn can be done in 3rd or 2nd gear (if u choose to do it in 2nd short-shift to 3rd b4 t2). There is many points on the track, where you want to use the curb to hook your car round the corner. Such as I think it's t5,6,7,8,11,13,14. Just generally practice over and over and over again. Also t9,10 ofc is a very hard corner, I recommend doing one of the 2, turn in early with alot of angle, then straighten the wheels do massive trail braking and also it's fairly important u use 3rd to keep the car stable. The other option is turn in late, and use the brakes a very small amount, but ofc for a longer period of time. I prefer the former, but is also personal preference. Fyi I use a pad aswell.

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  • JR6492JR6492 Member Unleaded
    @haydn23
    cheers man, yeah seems to be mostly practice needed although it can get pretty boring! im on a pad too.

    quick question what kind of lap times are you talking in aor split 4??
  • haydn23haydn23 Member Petrol Head
    edited November 4
    @JR6492
    for Quali in China the pole time was a 1:32.254, and pole in Bahrain was a 1:28.836. Atm it looks like we'll be doing mid 1:33's round Russia aswell
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD4KthnFwavKbaHfHtz5ulg
    Steam: Haydn02  Xbox: Sid3ways Nismo PSN: Jenbut21 Twitter: @SidewaysNismo Uplay: H4ydn02
  • JR6492JR6492 Member Unleaded
    @haydn23
    thats not bad pretty doable with practice, though consistency for 50% races on a pad is prob tough enough. 

    Had as been looking on aor website. Might register for next season, thanks!
  • KrisperfectlineKrisperfectline Member Unleaded
    JR6492 said:
    @Krisperfectline

    any tips for Bahrain man?
    Not a Bahrain specialist. But in my view, you need good rhythm around there. I am good at China, but Bahrain.. if it were not for the double apex tight hairpin, turn 9, leading to the back straight, I could do better. But with it, I struggle to get it right. I even tried reduce brake pressure and adjusting the brake balance, did not help at all. Lol.
  • JR6492JR6492 Member Unleaded
    JR6492 said:
    @Krisperfectline

    any tips for Bahrain man?
    Not a Bahrain specialist. But in my view, you need good rhythm around there. I am good at China, but Bahrain.. if it were not for the double apex tight hairpin, turn 9, leading to the back straight, I could do better. But with it, I struggle to get it right. I even tried reduce brake pressure and adjusting the brake balance, did not help at all. Lol.
    Lol yeah can lose a lot of time on the entry and the exit of there. Have to be very light on the brakes but I still end up locking up and going sideways there quite a bit!
  • coolieboycoolieboy Member, Drivers Petrol Head
    Jernzzeo said:
    I've always been a fan of racing games. I play roughly about 3-4 hours daily and for the love of cookies and cream, I can't seem to get into the elite 110% AI club. I usually race at 101% and that itself takes alot of concentration from me whereas when I see people like Aarava and Tiametmarduk racing at 110% so casually whilst providing commentary, it makes me feel bad man. I've tried racing against the 110% AI on qualifying (using flashbacks to try to get the perfect lap) and I'm always too slow no matter how perfect I feel the lap went out to be (no assists btw). For example, the 110% AI at China qualifies at around the medium 1:32's (Hamilton) and I'm always about 7-9 tenths off the pace using Bottas (despite using multiple flashbacks). So I'm reaching out to those of you who race at 110% casually for some advice and tips to get me to where I want to be. Cheers!
    I wouldn't use Aarava and Ben as examples.  Yes they play at 110%, but they also use assists in the form of t-cam and racing line. My advice, keep playing and practicing. 
  • TAKIINOUETAKIINOUE Member Unleaded
    I wouldn't call t-cam an assist. At least, the game itself doesn't.

    I've seen Ben using cockpit view and he's just as good, I think he uses t-cam only because it's better for YouTube. He doesn't use the racing line at all, maybe Aarava did once but not now.
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