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We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one, but I will point out that Hamilton won more races than Rosberg last year and still lost the title.VetteIfan said:If he got in to the lead with Verstappen in 2nd then he wouldn't have had much choice but to take the win.As if Raikkonen would be allowed to take the win. And I still disagree. Banking points for second, so long as Lewis stayed behind, would have given him a six point lead leaving the race rather than being 28 behind. Championships are won with consistent podiums.
But no, that's wrong. You can't win a championship without winning races, and winning races where you've got a car advantage and you can inflict maximum damage. That's how ships are won. "Banking points" is what Vettel did at Monza and Spa.
This is especially potent this year for Vettel seen as since Spain he's had a general car disadvantage and will probably have going forward.
As if Raikkonen would be allowed to take the win. And I still disagree. Banking points for second, so long as Lewis stayed behind, would have given him a six point lead leaving the race rather than being 28 behind. Championships are won with consistent podiums.VetteIfan said:100% disagree. Not only is that a terrible attitude for a racing driver to have, but everyone knows at Singapore whoever makes it to turn 1 first wins the race. The only exceptions to that in the race's entire history is when Hamilton retired in 2012 and Renault cheated in 2008.I think it was a racing incident but was a stupid move by Seb. His main title rival is way down the field, you don't need to be so aggressive at the start - particularly in these conditions. It doesn't really matter if Verstappen, or even Raikkonen, gets past him. Stay ahead of Hamilton at T1 and see what comes.
It was absolutely imperative that Verstappen and Raikkonen stayed behind him. For that I have no problem with the aggressiveness of Seb's move.
4 points from 2 games, not looking so bad now is it?Jiggy said:Just because you're a Sunderland-fan and you're cool, I actually hope they don't relegate and sort out their mismanagement tbh. Not aware of any changes in and around Sunderland's upper echelon though, so maybe they're on a different route now.We aren't going down again. Our squad is by no means relegation bad and Grayson knows what he is doing. Short is looking to sell, he's not going to let us go down again and lose more money.Jiggy said:I can tbh. Easily. Going to put money on it too, the way Sunderland is being managed.sjsharp2010 said:I don't see Sundreland suffering a double relegation your teams not that bad.I was quite happy with our draw yesterday, I was fearing double drop!Hughesy said:Losing the first game of the season 8-2 isn't great, that's me being polite. Still Norwich lost first game of the season 7-2 or something a few years ago and won the league, that's me clutching at straws.....
But clubs who spent year after year screwing things up in the top flight (or any division) and then suddenly do get the drop, tend to get themselves into another relegation scrap eventually. Whether it's the first season right away or the following ones after that.
At least you still have Khazri though. But what's the situation around Robbin Ruiter, I've seen people rate him, but he was benched at the start of the season for Steele, who imo was dreadful. Is he going to start for them, because if that first game of Steele is going to be a preview of what's to come, Ruiter should start tbh.