Jack4688

I think you’ve cracked it. Say anything and claim it’s confirmed and @PJTierney will be forced to deny. Ergo anything we say is confirmed IS confirmed until we hear ‘There are no plans for ______ in DiRT Rally 2.0’ 😉

It wasn’t a serious suggestion or hope, just banter. But for the record I’m all for Japan if it’s the Hokkaidō stages from the old WRC Rally Japan/APRC Rally Hokkaidō

I’m hoping Season 555 includes the Rothmans (‘Rallying’) and Elonex liveries for the Legacy and the new locations are enough to build up a 1990s RAC Rally - that means North Wales, North York Moors, Grizedale, Kielder Forest, Scottish Borders, Central Scotland (Drummond Hill, Craigvinean etc.). So you can do a BRC season then finish the year off trying to beat Kankkunen, Sainz et al on the RAC but you get stuck in a ditch in Kielder. In the fog. At night.

Nope. The R4 kit (soon to be rebranded, I think as Rally2 kit) uses a 1.6ltr inline four. The old classification of R4 rally cars included Subarus, but not anything else using an Impreza engine.

The thing I noticed with the 206 is the driver moves his hand down towards the gear stick when changing gear but the 206 had a paddle-shift style gearbox 👍🏻

Perhaps then it would be more likely we could expect expansions to existing locations for when DiRT Rally 03 comes along!

My thoughts exactly. It’s bad enough we have to put up with the ‘98 test livery (before Martini came onboard as a sponsor for ’99) but all the other livery options are this same DR2.0 obsession with browns and weird choices of orange and grey/grey and blue etc. DR1 had some pretty good liveries for stuff like the Delta Integrale and Focus ‘01 but in 2.0 the choice is pretty poor tbh

The other side of the road from Sweet Lamb is Myherin, a lot of which is open moorland type scenery, or further north you go into Hafren forest. But as it’s strictly speaking set in Powys, the biggest county in Wales, there are plenty of other brilliant stages we could have in that location! Although as ‘Hawkes Bay’ is actually the Whaanga Coast stage in Waikato on the other side of the North Island, they could just use creative license and create anywhere in the same country and call it ‘Powys’, ‘Ridabelles’, ‘Värmland’ etc. I’d also like to see some more of Monte Carlo and Argentina added, those two rallies are so much more than just Col de Turini and El Condor respectively.

True, what I really want is Project Cars 2-style full range of weather conditions! But something like that would have to wait until DiRT Rally 03 comes along I reckon

Trying to be realistic about this, I offer the following suggestions: Group A cars: Subaru Legacy RS; Mitsubishi Lancer Evo I, II or III; Ford Sierra Saphhire Cosworth (4x4) Up to 2000cc cars: 1997 or 1998 Subaru Impreza WRC; Citröen Xsara WRC; Seat Cordoba WRC Rally locations: Killarney, Rep. Ireland - specifically the Moll’s Gap stage, if you don’t know what the fuss is about check out onboards of it on YouTube! Hokkaido, Japan - I’m not sure of anywhere specific but the stages from the former Rally Japan and Hokkaido Rally always looked pretty good. It would give the game some much needed (virtual) presence in Asia; Corse, France - same as Japan in that I have no specific stage in mind but I’m sure Codemasters would pick something brilliant to drive; Sanremo and Tuscany, Italy - less realistic idea here but who else remembers when Rallye Sanremo was mixed surface? A tarmac stage (or a pair) around Sanremo and gravel down in Tuscany would offer three potential rallies in one: a modern day Sanremo; classic mixed surface Sanremo or; a standalone gravel rally in Italy; Oporto, Portugal - Rallye de Portugal used to be mixed surface, so similar to the Rallye Sanremo idea above. More unrealistic ideas than the above, I know these won’t happen but you never know what suggesting it may lead to: Open Rally class, based on the class of the same name used in USA’s national championship. Subaru is the only real one, the rest are fantasy cars based on the same thing. All cars would be 4WD and around 330bhp: Subaru WRX STi; Mk7 Golf R (3 door and Mk7, not Mk7.5); Hyundai i30N Performance; Peugeot 308 GTI; Ford Focus (either Mk3 RS or the new Mk4 ST); Mk3 Audi S3/RS3 (ignoring what effects a bigger 2.5 engine would have on vehicle dynamics, I just want a 5 cylinder sound!); Cupra Leon Mk3 Rally locations: Monte Carlo and Sweden both offered in summer conditions. I just wanna blast up the Col de Turini on dry tarmac and through the Swedish forests on gravel!

It was a brilliant day: I have been very fortunate to get an invite every year the event has run! In my opinion the Group 4 Audi Quattro is the most influential car in rallying: I'd say it's place in a game would be well deserved (though it would be hard to place it in a class) It would have to be in Group 4.... but you only unlock it after winning a championship in Group 4 cars in career mode, then when you blitz the RWD opposition in it in 2-3 rallies you unlock Group B in career mode...

The format of the game i.e. all the different disciplines gives them the opportunity to include the full course (license permitting) to set a record in a car, a hillclimb using just the mountain section from Ramsey hairpin to Creg-Ny-Baa or thereabouts, and a full rally so long as they create a few more country lanes to give it a Manx National Rally/International Rally Isle of Man feel to it.

This is interesting, also VRally4 doesnt have any WRC location, USA, KENYA and MALAYSIA. So if BigBen has the licence and dont use any new generation WRC car, any WRC rally, the are just stupid or silent Codemasters has the licence If they don’t include Isle of Man in V-Rally 4 (as they have been there to model the roads for TT IoM) it will be a damn shame

It sounds like a 6 or 8 cylinder engine (let’s split the difference and call it 7 cylinders) running with ITBs

I’d prefer paying the dev to add more content as time goes on, providing it is a game of the quality of DR. It’s worth it you like the look of what they’re offering and if not, you’re not obliged to buy it. I don’t see why it should be for free because they are afterall operating to make money and pay salaries etc. ‘For free’ would most likely mean hideously expensive purchase price anyway

I find them quite boring, R5s don’t seem to have much excitement about them compared to various classes of 4WD rally cars from the past 20-25 years - although that does include various forms of astronomically expensive top-level cars such as Group A and early years of World Rally Car. They don’t seem to cut it with me, especially considering how expensive they are, if the weakness of the top class of the British Rally Championship is anything to go by. I would definitely be disappointed by a game where a 1.6 (yes the WRCs also have that size engine, but they do have more than 120bhp more than an R5) shopping cars are supposed to be the pinnacle. They could always go down the Gran Turismo route and use real base models to make fantasy rally cars. Or I’ll just drive the Audi Sport quattro and all the Group A, F2 & 1997-mid2000s WRC stuff...

In Portugal, DiRT Rally is very popular in the sim-racing crowd. Is this "simulator area" official or is it just something set-up by a local company as general entertainment? I wouldn't look that deep into this. Well, even if it isn't an official "simulator area" I find it very interesting that they're showing footage of a competing rally title in a WRC livestream while they have their official WRC game (with eSports series still running). I wouldn’t be surprised though in that situation that someone in charge of the content shown on the live stream doesn’t know what game it is, thinking it’s ‘the rally game’. Understandable on one hand, but on the other you sometimes expect that sporting events etc. have some kind of nutcase whose job it is to make sure there’s no conflicting brands floating about, leading to a situation where someone takes a drink out of a four-year-old’s hand because it has the wrong logo on it - where’s that nutcase shutting down the rally simulator operation?

My favourite quote from this garbage: “...24h LeMans with specially prepared Ferrari 550 Maranello.” Ummmm generally speaking ANYBODY competing at Le Mans 24 hours will do so with a specially prepared vehicle

Problem not solved. What if the WRC Promoter says only current cars (no classics) or no non-WRC locations? People will expect those kinds of things (classics and new locations) from a game called DiRT Rally 2, because DiRT Rally 1 had them. What happens when 2019 comes and they get none of that stuff? Title should be: DiRT EVO The Official World Rally Championship Game. This way, the DiRT branding is there, to help sell, and it's not a sequel to DiRT Rally, but rather a spinoff. I think out of the user base who understood the heritage of those stages from DiRT Rally they will also understand the issues behind doing that all over again. Good content is good content, it doesn’t have to be the stages used on world rallies to draw us in. If the game has no official WRC licence associated with it at early access the promotor should hopefully keep their nose out of it. Problem solved.

Early access: DiRT Rally 2 Full game: WRC 2019 problem solved

Toyota confirmed? Confirmed what?

I personally loved the stages in DR and found the equivalents of Sweet Lamb etc in SLRE were dreadful in comparison. But I’m now realising that other than a few recognisable parts of stages such as the Sweet Lamb water splash, the summit of Col de Turini and that hairpin out the forest in Ouninpohja, most of the stage mileage was unrecognisable to me as a mere gamer and not an experienced rally driver. I’ve mentioned on here before that places like Grizedale forest or Moll’s Gap etc. are real rally locations, just without any WRC licencing hazards to get past but really the same applies. WRC title or not I think codmasters’ next rally title can still appeal to the hardcore users in terms of the stage content if they just quickly whip up some stage km, maybe with yourstage, and use their existing database of stage environment (trees, fields road surface etc) and so long as they avoid the repetitiveness of D4 who’s gonna complain about a lack of realism to the stages? My point being.... If codemasters said “right we’ve got the budget and resources to do the same thing we did in DR but it’ll have to be 6 new locations” I think they’d be better off reducing the time-consuming fiddly details of getting stages to fully represent a real piece of road and putting more effort into doing 2x, 5x, 10x or whatever the total stage mileage which lacks accuracy but still has the well designed environments - even if the environment is a bit copy and paste, the path the road takes is of greater importance to the feeling of variety. It would also avoid D4’s misconception of ‘infinite stage KMs’

Yeah I don’t understand why we haven’t thad the full WRX circuits roster on DR & D4, maybe they couldn’t commit as much development time to it? The WRX promotors must have been pretty annoyed with that outcome though.

Combine rallying, rallycross and circuit racing and call it GRIDiRT

As far as I’m aware the only true to life part was the big drop from the Mineshaft stage of Rally of Canberra, everything else was an approximation of the stages from the six rallies represented in the game. But it still feels like more unique miles of stages in RBR compared to recent rally games, even if you don’t download the RSRBR mod - which has scores of extra stages, some of which are real.