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  1. On 9/15/2020 at 4:09 PM, danielofifi said:

    Yes, the understeer is there if you push too much. As for the feeling of weight, DR2.0 does it better, and I played WRC8 a long time ago, so it's difficult for me to say if it has been improved. One thing I noticed is that car's behaviour can be influenced by a setup to a higher degree than in WRC8. Generally, you get the feeling like the car is more in contact with the surface than in WRC8. Overall the tarmac feels good, not at the level of, say, Assetto Corsa, but it's believable. It gives me SLRE vibes. 

    I personally feel the cars have great weight on tarmac, especially at speed. There is a better feeling now in WRC 9 of the downforce the WRC cars can generate at speed. Brakes can be used to tuck the nose in at speed on bends as well. 

     

    Gravel feels better to me than DR2 now, specifically how you balance the car through bends. I still feel that braking on gravel is a tad to good, something DR2 does really well. I prefer the FFB as well. It's much improved over 8. Not to take away from DR2 though. I still play it and enjoy the hell out of it, and I feel that WRC 9 has actually made me a bit better at DR2.

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  2. 9 hours ago, MattJelonek said:

    Yes, yes sorry! WRC 8!

    I just woke up! Contemplating continuing to play WRC 9 (Digital Deluxe Edition), watch Day 2 of Rally Estonia or make my Father's day gift/food haha

    Lots of choices...hahah. I am watching the rally myself. So glad there is rally to watch again, and so far Estonia has been pretty good. 👍


  3. 13 hours ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

    Lie.

    @MattJelonek You can buy the DLCs in the Deluxe Edition seperately. I've looked in the Microsoft Store for X-Box, should be the same for other platforms.

    I wouldn't give much on what this guy says, pretty aggressive defending of something means either fanboy or advertising.
    Quite childish behaviour.


    I ordered WRC 8 Deluxe Edition from the WRC-Shop yesterday.
    If this is any good, I may buy WRC 9, too.
    I don't expect it to be as good as DR2.0, can be more arcady, but it must be authentic.
    And I heared good things regarding career mode.

    I own already all previous WRC games, but didn't played WRC 6 and 7, because...I don't know...can't stop playing DR2.0 😄
    Won't buy DiRT 5, because I don't wanna get eye cancer.

     

    I would not recommend using WRC 8 to judge whether or not to buy 9. Just go straight to 9. To many improvements in the physics and dynamics of the cars to be able to judge this way.


  4. 6 hours ago, virgism said:

    True sim racer review: 

     

     

     

    In short: total arcade.

    I mean, that is your opinion. Didn't sound like that from him in the vid. Yeah, he is beating the AI pretty easy on the hardest difficulty. I have noticed some disparity in the AI over different rallies, Sweden especially. This was noticable in 8 as well.

    And honestly he wasn't fully settled into the physics and it was obvious. When I use all the things I learned driving in RBR and apply them to WRC 9, I get the cars to handle just the same. Yes, WRC 9 is much more forgiving than RBR, but the techniques learned in RBR directly apply to 9. This was not the case in 8.

    In no way is it perfect, but my God is it so much more fun and engaging to drive. Finally a really good WRC game, plus with DR2 still strong, what's not to like as a rally fan?

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  5. 59 minutes ago, Madhun1967 said:

    thanks for that , ill check it out 

    No prob. I will say, don't get frustrated with the mod. You have to make the car oversteer with braking and throttle. It takes some getting use to, but it is worth it once your set up right.


  6. A lot of the more well known sim racing streamers got a press release version of the game over the last week or two. For me they are better to draw an opinion on more than the KT released videos.

    A few things I noticed immediately.....

    First, it looks like they have fixed puddle physics, which were absolutely trash in WRC 8.

    The cars look to actually have better angular momentum and carry inertia properly through tight bends and hairpins, another big issue in WRC8.

    The cars do not seem to be rocket ships anymore. Accel looks to be more in line with the real cars, or at least the sense of speed in the game has been improved.

    Cars look less twitchy and look to have weight, much more than in WRC8.

     

    8 is good, but still so many small things are lacking. I do play 8 a lot though with WRC 8 Mods 10.1 from Racedepartment. You lose online play, but the graphics and physics improvements make the game absolutely amazing.

     

     


  7. As a lot have said already, slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I had to really dig in and apply this advice to start really enjoying the game and it has helped immensely. 

    Also, learn how to control and balance the car with braking and accelerator more than with the steering. It's better to go slower into a bend to set up a clean and fast exit. 

    Beyond that it's just practice; lots and lots of practice.


  8. 7 hours ago, watzcoc said:

    i have found using external ssd makes wrc 8 a lot smoother.

    That's interesting cause I had it on my external SSD at first and it was bad. It's pretty smooth on the internal.

     

    That said, with my new setup, I am finding wrc 8 not much fun and am absolutely loving DR and DR 2. I have actually gone back to controller for WRC 8.


  9. My first post here, but I figured I would chime in since I have put a lot of time in on WRC 8. 

    I play on an Xbox One X and had been using a Thrustmaster TX. It took some time to dial in but the FFB was really good once I got the wheel right. If felt better than DR and DR2.0

    The default setups and quick adjustments for the car setups suck. To get the cars to actually handle properly, especially at slow speed, you have to setup the suspension and diff for each location. The physics shine once this is done. There still are some strange physics things going on though.

    There are invisible puddles sometimes, and the car's reaction to puddles and water spots is way over-tuned. It is also not predictable based on your angle of entry, throttle position, or speed. You also get no feedback from running over some larger rocks or brush on the side of the stage. Curbs on tarmac stages are the exception.

    Speaking of tarmac, the physics here are really good. The WRC cars tend to still be a little floaty, but proper suspension and diff tuning help with this.

    Back to the FFB. I just upgraded this week to a CSL Elite 1.1 with the R330 wheel and universal hub and CSL Elite LC pedals.

    The LC brake has made a huge difference, but it feels better in DR and DR2. The FFB in DR and DR2.0 now feel light-years beyond WRC 8 with my new hardware. I still have some tuning to do, but WRC 8 feels like canned feedback and vibrations now, to where DR and DR2 feel more natural; how I would expect the car and wheel to react. Tarmac still does feel better than the DR games, but even this has improved with the new wheel.

    And let's talk about fps on console. It runs fairly smooth for 30fps on my One X. BUT......the low fps starts compounding problems as you get faster. When I had the TX dialed in with the car settings right, I was able to push top 25 in a number of stages, but at this speed the frame stutter and graphics wash out was interfering with the physics and my ability to react. 

     

    TL;DR is that WRC 8 is a good game. It has its issues as does DR and DR2, but it's good. I would recommend if you want to play it seriously, do so on PC. The 30 fps limit on consoles will eventually hold you back. For asphalt rallies, it is much better than DR/DR2. On gravel, I still prefer DR/DR2. 

    My dream come true would be for CM to get the WRC license and make a fully licensed WRC rally game with DR2 gravel physics and proper asphalt physics.

     

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