Monzie83
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Hi all,
Does anyone know what the dotted lines in the attached screen are? I initially thought they were averages but it doesn’t seem so. Maybe they’re target wear and lap times?
I ran this program with all tyre compounds.
Any assistance appreciated,
Monzie
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@Kyllin, try using the Xbox Fanatec Universal Hub device option to configure your wheel - that’s what I‘ve been using without any problems.
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On 8/26/2020 at 5:50 PM, LogiUK said:@Monzie83 They're working on support in F1 2020 at the moment.
@LogiUK, would you happen to have any updates on this?
In particular it would be good to know if the additional button support will come on F1 2020, as I bought Grid to check out Trueforce - the wheel does behave differently and the rev lights do work. However, the additional buttons/ dial aren’t available for mapping.
So I am keen to know if this will be the case on F1 2020 when Trueforce support is released.
I appreciate any information you can share.
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@Kyllin, I have now received my G923 and can report no problems. The wheel feels practically identical to the G920. There is no G923 device in the inputs area under controllers - it identified it as a Fanatec a universal Hub device when connected, which I have now customised and is working fine for me.
Have your issues with the wheel persisted?
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@Naxlr, I gotta admit I felt the same in F2 - Especially on a slow corner exit, I was sliding all over the place, and changing settings (like increasing on-throttle diff locking, firmer rear suspension) did very little and I had to modulate my gas with much more care than in F1. I am using a wheel and peddles - I found changing the throttle linearity helped the most.
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9 hours ago, Rango said:The G923 has exactly the same buttons as the G920 in terms of the LSB/RSB, so IF cm do manage to incorporate Trueforce I would hope that they also look to unlock the function of these buttons for it which surely can only help for it to work on G920?
Good point @Rango, I really do hope they can find a way.
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@Rango, from the comment by @LogiUK above it would seem those extra buttons/dials can work on the G923, IF CM support Trueforce on their games (which they’re bound to do at some point).
LogiUK also says F1 2020 support for Trueforce is being worked on - whether CM incorporate the additional buttons is unknown.Reading between the lines, I think the end result of all of this does mean those RSB and LSB buttons on the G920 are unlikely to be supported in the future, since G920 does not have Trueforce, unless CM make a concerted effort to find a way to enable them.
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@LogiUK, thank you for letting me know. Do you know if trueforce will eventually be supported on F1 2019/20 for Xbox? And if so what is the expected ETA on this?
Many thanks!
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@Kyllin, I too have a G923 on the way...
The Logitech website says all the codies F1 games from 2015 are supported, on all platforms, so your situation is not good.
Also, as you say, I would expect the wheel to at least be recognised as a G920 in lieu of the dedicated support for it being rolled out.
I’d be keen to know which game you are playing, and if platform you are on and if the LEDS or rotary dial are working?
Once I get my hands on the wheel, I’ll also report back with my findings.
Monzie
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@Ialyrn Thank you so much for the very detailed response.
I’ve also been doing some research, and I think you’re right - the issue with Xinput on Xbox seems to extend to all wheels and none seem to have an advantage over another in the button department.
I have read however, that keyboard support is available on F1 2019 on Xbox, with some users on Reddit saying they use a number pad as a cheap and cheerful button box. I’m going to give this a try when I get my G923 (if the additional buttons on it are not supported).
When I can get an appropriate budget together I’ll probably move off Xbox altogether and onto PC for sim racing as a first step. That way I’ll have more flexibility for buttons and better high-end devices going forwards.
Thank you for all your advice, and I’m happy to report back on my experiences with the G923/ number pad button box workaround if that would interest you.
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On 7/7/2020 at 4:41 PM, Theseus said:I use an XBOX elite 2 controller so I have ERS and Fuel mapped with the paddles and it works perfectly.
Hi @Theseus, does the elite Xbox controller offer an increased number of button inputs for the CM F1 games over the standard Xbox controller? I'm currently playing F1 2019.
Ideally I'd like to have dedicated buttons for fuel mix increase/decrease, brake bias increase/decrease, and differential increase/decrease, and ERS increase/decrease on the pad (in addition to having a dedicated button for DRS, look back, pit limiter and MFD scroll), as I'm struggling to use the MFD mid-race. On the standard controller this is not possible as I'm 2 buttons short. I'm thinking of getting the elite Xbox controller if it has an increased number of button/paddle inputs that are supported by the F1 games - could you confirm this for me please, as reading your post it seems the additional Inputs on the elite controller are supported?
Any assistance you can offer is greatly appreciated - thank you,
Monzie
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15 hours ago, Ialyrn said:If you got a good discount, thats fair enough. But I wasnt aware anyone other than Logitech was offering the G923 on preorder here in the UK at the moment. Even so, I am curious as to where you found a pre-order below the RRP on a device that currently isnt on the open market. Any chance you are able to share that information for others?
Hi @Ialyrn, I have a mate who got me the discount at PC world - they are also offering the G923 on pre-order.
15 hours ago, Ialyrn said:p.s sorry for the big posts, I have a bad habit of making sure I give as much information as possible in posts like these 😅
Thank you for the information. I will certainly consider it when I am able to stretch to a higher-end setup.
For the moment, my main need from a wheel is additional button support, rather than a more immersive experience, so I can comfortably use car adjustments mid-race without MFD on F1 2019/20 (obviously I don't want a completely basic wheel either, and you've probably guessed I only play the F1 sims). Given this and the fact I am currently wedded to Xbox, wouldn't I have the same issues on any manufacturer wheel with a greater number of buttons/ switches/ dials etc because the inputs are limited by Xinput? Or are there some wheels out there with a large number of buttons which are supported on F1 2019/20 for Xbox? This would be good to know for the future.
Monzie
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44 minutes ago, Ialyrn said:Xbox runs on Xinput for controllers, which is Microsofts propriatry controller API/Software. So any wheels and controllers on Xbox can only use whatever fuctionality Microsoft allow withing Xinput, from my understanding.
PC, on the other hand, uses direct input. Which is why we can use any and all buttons on wheel and controllers, so long as the game allows for controller remapping.
As for the G923 specifically. I personally wouldnt bother with it, or even advise purchasing it. Internally, its no better than the G920 and G29 that it replaces. It has the same motor and plastic cog design as the G920/G29. It puts out the same torque range. Trueforce runs through the motors, which increases the noise levels even more. Not to mention that for the money logitech are asking for it, you can buy a Thrustmaster TX (for xbox) with a set of T3PA pedals, or a Thrustmaster T300 RS-GT (for PS4) which includes a set of T3PA pedals in the box. They are much better wheels, full belt drive systems, better motors, stronger force feedback. Not to mention you can change the wheel rims, to which Thrustmaster sell everything from Rally rims to F1 rims. Not to mention the T3PA pedals are better than Logitech pedals, with a higher resolution. And Thrustmaster now also have a new set of pedals that features a load cell brake. A Load cell brake is considured as a prime upgrade in sim racing.Thank you for the information @Ialyrn regarding the input connections - this is good to know. If the issue is with Microsoft xinput, then I highly doubt it’ll be resolved soon 😞
Also, as I only play on Xbox (and as you say, this is limited by xinput), wouldn’t I have similar issues with additional “unsupported” buttons on all other manufacturer wheels - as I assume xinput only allows inputs that “mirror” the Xbox controller buttons?
I guess this also then begs the question about why Logitech would release a wheel that wasn’t fully supported on Xbox - perhaps this was a move to bring some parity between their PS and Xbox wheel offerings, which was obviously different between the G29 and G920.
As an aside, do you happen to know if the additional buttons on the G29 (when compared to the G920) are accessible on Codemaster F1 titles on PlayStation? Perhaps I bought the wrong platform 😂
As you can probably tell, I am a casual sim racer and fairly new to the plethora of devices available. I have looked at the Thrustmaster range, but I can’t stretch that far for something I’ll only play on the weekends (in the UK the Xbox TX servo base alone is around £250 with everything else on top) and I managed to get a good discount to get the G923 for the about this price).
I had borrowed a G920 from a friend and found it sufficient for my needs, the only issue being a lack of additional buttons to map fuel mix, brake bias and differential comfortably on the wheel, away from using the MFD option (which is horrible to use mid-race).
Monzie
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8 hours ago, Monzie83 said:Hi all,
First post here, so please be gentle!
Is anyone aware of the level of button support for the new Logitech G923 wheel for F1 2019/20 on Xbox?
The new G923 wheel features more buttons and dials than it’s predecessor, the G920.
I know there are issues with buttons not being supported on F1 2019 on the G920 wheel (like the LSB/RSB buttons), and so was wondering if this will be addressed with the new G923 wheel.
Any information on the above is greatly appreciated!
Monzie
***UPDATE - To anyone else on the forum with the same question...***
It would appear from the linked video that the additional buttons on the G923 are not supported for certain games on the Xbox - in my case the F1 games.
It’s not clear from the video if the chap has configured his buttons properly (I doubt this is the case), and also not sure on whose doorstep this issue lies (have heard from some it’s Microsoft not opening up the controller software, others saying it’s a Codemaster issue).
I have pre-ordered a G923 and will report back if the additional buttons work on F1 2019 once I have the unit.
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On 8/5/2020 at 9:14 AM, Rango said:Hoping @BarryBL can answer this one...
Media reporting that the new G923 wheel will have a brand new feedback system that will be integrated into F1 around September time. Considering the fact it also has many more buttons than the G920 on the wheel itself (similar to G29), is the update that will be needed for the wheel going to include the extra button functionality??
@Rango, in response to your original question, I have found the following video...
It would appear the additional buttons on the G923 are not supported for certain games on the Xbox - in my case the F1 games.
It’s not clear from the video if the chap has configured his buttons properly (I doubt this is the case), and also not sure on whose doorstep this issue lies (have heard from some it’s Microsoft not opening up the controller software, others saying it’s a Codemaster issue).
I have pre-ordered a G923 and will report back if the additional buttons work on F1 2019 once I have the unit.
Monzie
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Hi all,
First post here, so please be gentle!
Is anyone aware of the level of button support for the new Logitech G923 wheel for F1 2019/20 on Xbox?
The new G923 wheel features more buttons and dials than it’s predecessor, the G920.
I know there are issues with buttons not being supported on F1 2019 on the G920 wheel (like the LSB/RSB buttons), and so was wondering if this will be addressed with the new G923 wheel.
Any information on the above is greatly appreciated!
Monzie
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Duplicate post - Please Delete
Dotted lines in Race Strategy Program
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Thank you @dshepsman and @Tomasslb24 - that makes sense now.
I guess I confused the picture for myself further by running the program with soft and hard tyre in addition to the mediums.
@Tomasslb24, Good to know the program is only meant to run on the mediums. Although, when I did run the program on mediums, I easily met the lap time target over the 5 laps, so not sure why the dashed line is lower than the yellow on the first two laps?
On the next race weekend I’ll run the program on the mediums, take a snap shot, and then run it again on another tyre to see if the dashed lines change.