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Exasperated

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Exasperated last won the day on March 10

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  1. Exasperated

    Clubs camera onboard mandatory

    You clearly know what you are talking about I am not suggesting that you don't , and I agree with all the things that you say about it being possible to acheive a situation where a driver can be as efficient in both views while racing or setting times in a stage and yes set ups are at the core of improving lap/stage times for sure, yes slow down to speed up. agreed I only drive cockpit usually , have for decades , I am not a record breaker and do not compete online its not my bag ,recently I tried driving in T-Cam in F1 and without practice just changing wheel rotation from 360 to 270 because I couldn't get on with it my lap time improved by 3.5 seconds instantly , I couldn't believe how much easier it was to drive a lap , anyway I haven't changed my preferred view from cockpit to T-Cam because I don't like the view I'd rather run slower times , given this If I was racing regularly against a group of other drivers and every driver always used the cockpit view and our times were fairly equal and we always finished our races in similar positions by our skill levels when racing together but then in one race I decided to change my view and I drove the car in T-Cam at a race and it was seen that my time had improved by 3.5 seconds per lap then I would guess that the other drivers would say that I had gained an advantage by using the T-Cam view. They may say to me woah you've improved massively , now drive in cockpit view and repeat the time , but I can't so the only conclusion that everyone is going come to is that if I race in T cam that it is giving me an advantage. But yes If I practise and get setups sorted so that my times in the cockpit are equal to those in T-Cam then there would be no advantage gained by differing camera types. Then they would just see me as being 3.5 seconds faster than I was before. You may see it differently but its agree to disagree in certain aspects for me as yes your points are valid but there are elements in certain situations where advantages can be found , I wish you a good evening and enjoyable stages ; I've got all the Rally titles myself RBR included so I know how difficult it is to get to the level you have achieved. Regards.
  2. Exasperated

    Clubs camera onboard mandatory

    Like you say you are a very experienced gamer and well practiced , and a lot of practice means that you can drive in any view with the same results. In terms of stage times or lap times , but you are exceptional, for an ordinary average user that is not at your level there is a marked difference between their ability to control a car from the cockpit as opposed to using exterior view cameras , lets not kid ourselves about this , why do more people and its a lot more people choose to drive in an exterior or even bonnet cam., its because they find full cockpit view more challenging , For you it does not put you at a disadvantage for those that are not at your level ..... Best wishes, Enjoy your rallying.
  3. Exasperated

    Clubs camera onboard mandatory

    Utter nonsense. Exterior camera views give the driver more awareness of their surroundings , plenty of people have stated on here that this is the reason that they do not use cockpit view to drive in. You may fool others and yourself about this but its the mantra of those that don't want to admit to there being any advantages to be gained........... Its all just a level playing field... really. Chrom 25 above knows damn well that all things are not equal along with everyone else that has any sense.
  4. That's good then if you can afford to pay over a £1000 pound for the wheelbase and the same again for a rig that can hold it in place plus another £1000 for this and that's to complete the package , the proles wouldn't mind a share of the FFB as well ; you know.
  5. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    https://youtu.be/Jw36ivnRHR things get complicated all by themselves , sounds like you need a diversion take some time out and do some actual racing and then reassess the situation.
  6. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    I've got the answer for you , go and test it yourself and you will find out , someone else's opinion of that is not as good as you doing it and knowing yourself , theories and hypothetical thoughts are all well and good but there is nothing like first hand knowledge of a subject.
  7. Exasperated

    Turkey in F1 2021

    They probably would of asked Kunos Simulazioni if they wanted to take over the license ......., its a joke......rilassare , sono qui per affair.
  8. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    In the context of me asking the question of why people think the weather effects in the code masters F1 game do not give the same LACK of visibility as the OP suggests that real life F1 races do in his post and then supports this by showing pictures of a real life wet race ( Forget about car handling physics I'm not really talking about that ). It is very simple I raced in very wet conditions in game at SPA and the in game representation of wet weather to my mind gave a very good representation visually of the semi opaque mist that forms in the air when tyres throw off water on a wet surface . The specific information I put up about going to Spa and the specific selections of car and the chosen view were so that any one who was interested could actually replicate what I had based my opinion on and see for themselves what I had experienced and why I have made the comments that I have made. Its just giving a reference point that is all that it is , try it don't try it , whatever. Your point about engine mapping etc relates to the physical aspects of driving the car and that is not what I am referring to . The single monitor point that you make about , distance from screen and unrealistic FOV are not really relevant to if you are seeing rain effects or not ( this may not be the case if you are in another camera view other than the cockpit view because of the cameras position in relation to the effects), no matter what the set up of your screen is in terms of the distance you are from it is and also the missing reality such as stereoscoping or other ocular information that is missing from the in game images you will either see an effect of heavy mist or not , the lack of effect of speed etc is just an unfortunate occurrence due to the restrictions of a particular set up. Anyway the only way you will have of making an opinion for yourself of if the weather effects in game are any good in the way that I have suggested that I think they are will be to try the set up that I put up and see for yourself. I'm not looking for you to agree that what I say is correct or you to like my content or whatever , this is just a pass time for me in between Races. Regards. And remember ....this is not a simulation , Its just a game and with that in mind the wet weather driving effects are amazingly good , but if you want really amazing wet weather go drive sweet lamb in Dirt rally in the rain and drive through some water , but make sure you have your wipers on.
  9. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    An extra belt and braces approach is needed as always , Just to clarify that when I mentioned the visual effects of rain in the game ,I mean obviously water spray kicked up by grooved tyres and causing fog like conditions , visually this relates to the OP saying that he does not think that these effects in the F1 game are very strong and that the player can see too easily in wet conditions , In my experience this is not the case , I gave an example of a race that I just did recently so that people could try it and then see it for themselves . I personally played in a game with those selections at Spa and Could barely see the rain lights of cars in front of me and could not see the edges of the track because the spray effects were so dense the only reason I could drive round the track when in close proximity to groups of other cars was because I know it like the back of my hand after having completed 1000's of laps there over the years. Try it you probably wo'nt like it.
  10. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    Regarding camera views by changing FOV settings you can make the corners of the track easier or more difficult to get through or you can make the track appear wider or narrower longer or shorter. The view that anybody races in has absolutely everything to do with visual elements of the game and physical to ,but I don't expect you to understand this As an example I raced the Alfa Romeo at Barcelona the other day after the video of Jarno Opmeer was put up Cockpit view race Last to First place over 5 laps . My version of the same thing against the AI In Cockpit view I managed to do it but I only managed to take First place just before the final Chicane of the 5th lap and was almost demoted to 2nd place. by comparison while driving using T- Cam I was in First place at the end of the 4th lap and easily drove round the 5th lap at the front and finished with a very comfortable margin . So you see what camera settings you use can greatly affect things in the game
  11. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    This whole game can be different depending on which settings you are using ( In Project cars 2 you can tune your car by changing the position of the head cam back forward and up and down) and if you do a lot of experimenting in the F1 games you will notice quirky effects by slight changes in camera views etc , , what you see as rain effects from T- Cam is going to be different than in Cockpit view as the camera is looking at the effects from a different height. I am referring to the visual effect part of the OPs comment Dylan West is talking about the physics of driving on a wet track two different things.
  12. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    Every time I mention A hard core sim version I speak of 2 versions of the game 1 (one) that is like the version already available with what the general populace wants a game that is dabbling in F1 with people who want extreme realism in the game but if its causing them a problem then they want that to be thrown out because its just a game ,,their excuse for not having to confront the fact that they are bailing on making the effort to deal with things This version of the game ( Version ONE for gamers )costs the usual £70 - £100 or whatever . That's the game for 'Gamers' that is your game its in your budget plus you get what you want a mix of arcade , children content and whatever nonsense people want , OK that's you taken care of The other game is a second version that is made using all the content from the main game but minus the rubbish like pit pass and piffle stories about Bevan Duller or whatever ,,this 2ND (SECOND version) is developed for SIM RACERS and has all the things that you need if you actually give a XXXX in order that you are involved in something that relates to F1. If this was undertaken it would require a dedicated team outside of the normal situation and those employees wages to do this exftra work would have to be paid for by charging the customer extra for the finished product. This is not made for YOU if you cannot afford it or do not want to buy a hard core sim. In the same way that Fanatec Podium Direct Drive wheelbases are made for people who want and can afford them. I hope this clears up your mis understanding Re: Driving in Replay spectator Cam , what does it matter what I think , drive it in 'Chase Cam' if you want or sat on the front wing The fact that I think its a slackers thing to do and is ridiculous is just my opinion like your opinion about the game needing better wet weather driving physics or whatever else. The more people there are that drive in cockpit view the greater the chance the game has of getting VR .........getting any connections ? "Its not a Sim its a game , Stop saying that , its just a game .........its just a game " where you got the idea from that I am against the in game wet weather driving model being improved is beyond me when I have made it clear that I want the game to be a hard core sim , how does that work.
  13. Exasperated

    Turkey in F1 2021

    '" I think therefore I am" . Rene Descartes. 1596 - 1650 " I am therefore I want, GIVE IT ME! ". A lot of People. way back then - to right now
  14. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    You want the physics of the tyres sorted and implemented properly into the game because it feels immersive when you need to go into puddles to cool the tyres and you drive in T-Cam because you are faster in T-Cam and wet racing feels more true to real life (whatever that is like because probably 99.% of us have never driven an F1 car at 150MPH in the wet) but the Codesters should not make a Sim version as it would be stupid . I think you are the perfect example of a player of the F1 games and the reason why the game has Jockey outfits in an in game shop. Going back to the OP showing pictures of the wet conditions in a race that he thinks would be a great edition to the game ,,all I would say to people is as an example go to the Grand'rix part of the game and select the Spa Francochamps circuit and 'Very wet' conditions' at a reasonable AI level for your standard of driving in the wet and choose a mid field car and drive in Cockpit View set at the in game defaults with 15 degrees of look to apex added just for the for the purposes of this test and then qualify around 10th place on the grid . If you now race and keep up with the pack then you should (NOT) be able to see why I cannot understand people that are saying the wet weather conditions in game need to be more like they are in real life . Enjoy shopping for your 'snappy duds'
  15. Exasperated

    WET TRACK CONDITION (e.g. IMOLA 2021)

    Do you use T-Cam or Do you use cockpit cam? When you say no game has got realistic wet weather driving yet are you comparing it to driving a van on a motorway or racing an F1 car at 150 mph on one of the real tracks used in the F1 GP's ? I'm not being funny or anything I'm just quite confused that what I am experiencing when I race in very wet conditions just doesn't compare to what other people say they are getting.
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