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1. The Kids on the pitch:
Janko, Vermijl, James, Keane, Powell - 5 out of the starting 11 and 3 of those were defenders. Pereira and Wilson (who were both ok) came on later too. Our bench had no big names except Januzaj. I would have thought he'd put RvP, Mata, Jones etc. on the bench just in case...
And come on, just because a player features in a title winning year that doesn't make them good. Anderson, Hernandez, Welbeck and Evans are just not good enough. We should sell Kagawa/use him as bait to fund a defender now. In short, that team was kids and rejects playing an unfamiliar formation (except De Gea, who is in no way at fault for this). Januzaj is a kid too, not much experience, but he was visibly not up to his best fitness wise due to playing at the weekend (only Monday to rest).
We should have kept Vidic, we could really use him right now...
2. Crossing was never going to work, surely we learnt that after putting 81 in against Fulham and stil losing? Powell nearly scored twice from shots outside the box, why could we do more of that. At 2 nil down with not long left, crossing to midgits wont work. If we had a Lambert or Carroll on the pitch, launch them in, but we didn't have either of them. Far too many safe passes, not enough people trying to get past a man.
The passes were not quick enough too often.
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Or 3 at the back out
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People are really getting carried away here. Sure, it is Man United, but do you even know who half of our team is? Most of them are not much better than league 1 anyway due to being very young. Vermijl - Who the hell is that?
Simple fact is, too many kids on the pitch at once = disaster.
Also, endless crossing is a joke, ******* shoot man, stop crossing it to Welbeck and Hernandez!
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Chin up guys ;)
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Well, Horner already said Vettel had issues with the car as a result of missing FP2. Watch Ted Kravitzs note book if you want to know the details
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Yes, completely agree. I've been saying it all season, if Red Bull are in the pack, they are nowhere (until Spa) and cannot overtake and always get done over on straights. Yesterday was great to see, Vettel and Ricciardo actually overtaking on straights and not getting overtaken all race on straights
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Ignoring stupid team orders and hitting your team mate on lap 2 on purpose are slightly different.
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onetwothree said:I can smell the panic in the Di Maria deal. There is no way he's worth that much.
Depends what way you look at it. If he is the difference between 4th and 5th (And a class player like him could well be) then he is worth it. We haven't got long left and he is a world class player.
No doubt that it is very expensive, but £63 Million odd is buying you one of the best Wingers in the game. Also, United badly, badly need pace up front, just as much as we need a solid CB and a solid CM, he'll give us that so IMO Ed just needs to pay up. Now all we need is a CM and a CB. For now, until January, where we need to get another CM and maybe a CB or RB. Because if we did get Vidal, or another CM now, we'd have 3 CM's who are actually good/ok. Carrick being ok, and Vidal + Herrera being good. The rest of our CM's are worthless, I'd be surprised if any of them go to clubs in the BPL.
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Hughesy said:EdMa said:Tbh, any team that has as few fans as Fulham that they have to have a neutral end doesnt really deserve to be in the Premier League.
I hate it when people say things like that. The size of the fan base doesn't mean jack shite. We only averaged a crowd of around 6000 when we got into the Championship as our town is small. How good a football teams is doesn't depend on the amount of fans, it's about how well the club is run and how good the players/staff are...
Actually I'd argue fans do equate to success. If your local club suddenly had 100 million fans and just 1 million of those bought shirts at £40, let alone other things they'd buy, you'd have £40 Million from just 1% of your fan base, let alone ticket sales. And I guarantee more than 1% would buy the shirt, if 10% did you have 400 million.
So fans = success eventually IMO.
Sure, the owner could spend it badly, but eventually with that kind of money, you'd be in European Football within 6 years.
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Well at least he had the sense to back out of it, unlike Rosberg who just drove like an idiot...
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AMS97KRR said:I'm going to make my Belgium GP predictions now or I'll forget:Quali:1. Hamilton2. Rosberg3. BottasRace:1. Hamilton2. Rosberg3. Bottas4. Massa5. Alonso6. Vettel7. Ricciardo8. Raikkonen9. Kvyat10. HulkenbergDoubt Red Bull will go well tbh/Quali:
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Race
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15
15
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3
8
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15
15
So in total that is: 77 points. Not to shabby.
EDIT: This forum is messed up. I went back to page 23 where my predictions were to quote and then I though I'd accidentally re-posted them because this post showed at the bottom of page 23 so I quickly edited it. So now my predictions are not only edited but say "Delete This." On the older forums, new posts went to the latest page...
In short, I accidentally deleted my prediction post from after Hungary.
What happens?
Is there anyway to show Edit history? I'd be more than happy to screenshot it and upload it if I can see that, you could on vBulletin and I had to do that once before.
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PeteTheDuck said:AMS97KRR said:I find it funny the way people say "Ricciardo is beating Vettel, can you believe it? Ricciardo?" almost as if he is a bad driver.
It is clear Vettel doesn't like the car, but why does Ricciardo "being better" or on the same level (according to some people) have to be a negative thing? Maybe Vettel is the driver his championships show and Ricciardo is just as good? Is it impossible that Ricciardo is actually a very good driver too? If Ricciardo ends up with 5 titles and Vettel ends of 4, how will you all look back on their time together? Because Ricciardo is showing all the same things Vettel has, he is very quick, calm and doesn't make many mistakes.
Any way you look at it, Vettel is still in the top 5 drivers on the grid (Lewis, Alonso, Vettel, Ricciardo and Raikkonen based on current and past form). In my opinion Ricciardo beating Vettel is a mix of bad luck for Vettel, Ricciardo actually being a good driver and the car suiting Ricciardo more.
Like I've said in the past, give it a couple of years and we'll see.
The reason I've been saying stuff like "Ricciardo is beating Vettel, can you believe it? Ricciardo?" is because Sebastian Vettel is a 4 time world champion, and surely someone that good should beat or at least equal his younger and less experienced team mate! The fact Ricciardo has won 3 races to Vettel's 0 this year is awesome, more points, and today he finished over 50 seconds ahead of him. Vettel is being trounced this year.
I respect Vettel a lot, he's a great driver, but it just shows that if Ricciardo was in the same car as Vettel for the last 5 years then maybe Vettel wouldn't have the championships he has.
Can you imagine if we wiped the past behind us. Say both Ricciardo and Vettel joined Red Bull or a lower team as rookies this year, no past to judge them on. We would be sitting here saying "Ricciardo is fantastic, a star of the future, but Vettel doesn't look great for the future". Same story with Alonso and Raikkonen.
I think Vettel would still have won all 4. Vettel mastered the blown diffuser cars and trounced a well respected Webber in the process. Vettel is just a bit sensitive to how he likes his cars, much like Raikkonen. Once he finds that sweet spot though, he's very difficult to beat, just look at 2011 and 2013 as evidence.
I don't think that makes him or Raikkonen less of a driver, when Vettel has finished, he hasn't done badly, he just hasn't been lucky enough to be behind the Mercedes when they fall off the track, today he was but he made a mistake and had a damaged car (confirmed by Horner after the race). In Monaco he was on the podium when his car broke, and in Australia he had a broken car all weekend.
Ricciardo has done a great job, but as Vettel, Horner and others have said, Vettel has had awful luck, which is probably due after the second half of 2013. Points wise it'd be a lot closer if he hadn't had so many issues.
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Bottas is a good driver, of course.
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RevolvingPrawn said:KRTheIceman said:RevolvingPrawn said:KRTheIceman said:RevolvingPrawn said:mike96 said:RevolvingPrawn said:AMS97KRR said:alonsofan46 said:https://twitter.com/willbuxton/status/503581862087127041
Oh , and this gonna end really badly. At least 1 free seat at Merc for next year. Maybe Vettel there ?
110% yes
I cannot see them keeping this going for another year.
110% No :p
I hear Alonso is looking at his options for next season ;)
He was actually talking with Red Bull last night :p
Well with the 0.5 that Alonso brings to any team, Alonso WDC 2015 ;)
No, Mercedes will suddenly stop performing and his 0.5 will get him a million 5th places.
And he'd still be ahead of Kimi ;)
Who won the championship at Ferrari?
Who's 11-1 up? :p
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter, neither will win the title or even a race...
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So, Man United in a lot of trouble now. 11 injuries right now, we badly need a CM and a CB before the window closes and Di Maria...
On a good note, Jones was good today, Mata was ok too
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I find it funny the way people say "Ricciardo is beating Vettel, can you believe it? Ricciardo?" almost as if he is a bad driver.
It is clear Vettel doesn't like the car, but why does Ricciardo "being better" or on the same level (according to some people) have to be a negative thing? Maybe Vettel is the driver his championships show and Ricciardo is just as good? Is it impossible that Ricciardo is actually a very good driver too? If Ricciardo ends up with 5 titles and Vettel ends of 4, how will you all look back on their time together? Because Ricciardo is showing all the same things Vettel has, he is very quick, calm and doesn't make many mistakes.
Any way you look at it, Vettel is still in the top 5 drivers on the grid (Lewis, Alonso, Vettel, Ricciardo and Raikkonen based on current and past form). In my opinion Ricciardo beating Vettel is a mix of bad luck for Vettel, Ricciardo actually being a good driver and the car suiting Ricciardo more.
Like I've said in the past, give it a couple of years and we'll see.
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alonsofan46 said:https://twitter.com/willbuxton/status/503581862087127041
Oh , and this gonna end really badly. At least 1 free seat at Merc for next year. Maybe Vettel there ?
110% yes
I cannot see them keeping this going for another year.
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But it is a solid line up.
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Not a bad shout to be fair
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Didnt Vettel win the title with a really damaged floor? -
Horner confirming Vettels car had a problem
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Vettel done an extra stop plus we don't know how much the lap 1 incident affected his car. And he missed FP2. Not Vettels season, he doesn't get on with the car. Alonso didn't have a great race either.
Good race from Kimi today and Bottas was class again. Ricciardo is driver of the day, did a really good job.
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Why is it laughable?
Official Football Thread
in Off-topic Discussion
Posted
There is no panic. This is our best team (As of now, we'll probably sign 2 more players yet and yes IMO we should drop 3 at the back):
___________De Gea____________
Rafael____Jones__Rojo___Shaw__
___Di Maria__Carrick___Herrera___
____________Mata_____________
______Rooney___van Perise______
Once they are all fit, look at that team. Not half bad. Di Maria has played more central for Real recently anyway, so he can play there for us if need be. Or you could have this (4-3-3) and leave Rooney out. I think the 4-3-1-2 works out better though. If we had Vidal where Carrick is in the 4-3-1-2, it'd be awesome.
__________De Gea__________
_Rafael___Jones__Rojo__Shaw_
______Carrick______Herrera____
____________Mata___________
___Di Maria___RvP____Januzaj__