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  1. Chicken42 said:
    30c= 86f umm I hate to break it to you but that isn't very hot. If you said like 35c then maybe.

    It is hot, anywhere in the world that is hot. 

    In the UK though, we are not prepared for it and not used to it, it usually isn't that hot. Like in Winter, a few inches of snow and the whole country stops. 


  2. After more than 100 races, age really shouldn't matter experience-wise.

    No I know, I agree with you. I am just saying. people seem to forget that he is actually a fair bit younger than Alonso or Kimi. When people talk about the next generation of drivers, they say Hulkenberg or Ricciardo and yet they are only 2 years younger than Vettel.



  3. Vettel really is having a rubbish season when you consider that he has had the same amount of pole positions and race wins as I have.

    But I really can't wait for the next 5 years of Formula 1. I know I said it in another thread somewhere previously, but I honestly think that we are now starting to see the true next generation of great F1 drivers. 

    At the moment you would have to say it is probably Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso, Rosberg, Raikkonen, Button

    In the next five years I can easily see Ricciardo, Bottas, Hulkenberg, Perez, Magnussen, Kvyat and maybe Bianchi joining them and fighting at the top end for race wins and championships.

    It is funny how you put Vettel in with those people, yet he'd closer in age to Hulkenberg (26) than the youngest of the first lot (Rosberg or Lewis at 29). 

    I think people forget how young Vettel is in comparison to the other top tier drivers on the grid right now (Hamilton, Alonso, Raikkonen) 


  4. fIsince08 said:

    vettel will look at it the way Schumacher looked at it, it only matters what you do against your team mate if you're fighting for a championship, if you're not your basically fighting over who is the quickest loser..which is why I have always looked at it more of a team sport, the real fight is between the teams, drivers are ten a penny, plenty young guns to replace any driver out there. if vettel and ricciardo have a championship winning car we will then see who is best, its pointless arguing about trivial things like this in a forum when realistically its one persons opinion against anothers, the end of season table never normally lies, whoever is top at the end has done the better job on that given year in that particular car, but come on don't tell me you aint followed f1 long enough to realise there are a whole load of different scenarios that can play out each season, the car might suit 1 driver 1 year and the other driver the next year, 1 might have more dnf's or crashes but that's just racing. some could say kimi was deserving champion in 2005 but Alonso's car was more reliable and that's all part of the game, so many factors come into it which is why its hard to judge these drivers against each other, everyone belittled massa at Ferrari as Alonso was so dominant yet he is doing a great job at Williams and even Alonso said he was his fastest teammate, even ahead of Hamilton. F1 is such a complicated sport is frustrates at times.  only when drivers retire you can look back on there career and judge how they performed over there career rather than one particular season, just sit back and enjoy it

    Paragraphs man :p 

    I find some of what you said that quite interesting - you said Raikkonen was probably the deserving 2005 champ (I wouldn't know) and this is part of the problem with Vettel - he's won two championships that in my opinion shouldn't have been his (2010 should have been Webber's and could have been Alonso's if Ferrari didn't cock up - 2012 should have been either Hamilton's or Alonso's.) This is why a lot of us think that Vettel is over rated.

    2010 retirements probably worked in his favour
    2011 he had the best car
    2012 he probably had the best car towards the end of the season as the McLaren was so unreliabl
    2013 best car, helped by the mid season tyre changes.

    Now I'm not saying that other drivers haven't had the best car - Button springs to mind - but the majority have done notable things in other seasons with bad cars - Alonso in 2012, Hamilton in 2009, Raikkonen in 2012. Excluding the fluke Toro Rosso win, Vettel hasn't really had a bad season up until now and look what's happening.

    But everyone has bad points - Hamilton in 2011, Button every year bar 2009/2010 and Raikkonen this season. I'll give Vettel another year but let's wait and see.

    Whatever you are taking, I want some.


  5. yugin96 said:

    I never get why people insist on putting Vettel ahead in Australia. I don't care how the FIA ranks DNFs and DSQs- Ricciardo did the full race distance while Vettel did around five laps; any reasonable person would give that point to Daniel. So the score really is 4-2.

    AMS97KRR said:

    But whatever right?

    You realise you are just asking to be flamed with baiting comments like that.

    I don't care, he always has to be right, even when he is clearly wrong. If I asked why Hamilton was behind in standings it is either "DNF'S DUE TO ISSUES!!!" OR "MERCEDES SABOTAGE!" if I ask why Vettel is behind it is always "RICCIARDO IS A BEAST M8, VETTEL IS A FRAUD AND SLOW"


    To be honest, I wouldn't even count Australia, but if people are going to count Austria and Monaco, I am going to count Australia. Out of 8 races it is 5-3, not counting Australia it is 5-2. I accept that Vettel has been out done a little, but not by much and not as often as the stats would have you believe. Britain and Canada are examples of strategy going against him and instead for Ricciardo, although full credit goes to Ricciardo for his excellent performances in this season.


  6. yugin96 said:
    AMS97KRR said:
    AMS97KRR said:
    yugin96 said:
    AMS97KRR said:

    Vettel beating Ricciardo was good

    I'd be pretty worried (edit: if I were a Vettel fan) about the fact that Ricciardo finished less than 10 seconds behind Vettel despite being knocked down to P15 after the first lap.

    I doubt Vettel was pushing as hard most of the time, Ricciardo was pushing a lot because he had ground to make up. 


    You will always find a way to discredit Vettel so I honestly don't care. 

    You think Vettel wasn't pushing when he had to battle with Fernando, the Hulk, Kimi, Button and Hamilton?

    Ok.

    Well you know I didn't point out all the specifics, but whatever you say.

    I'd quite like to hear those specifics. Vettel was up against Alonso all race long and not till when Alonso got stuck behind Ricciardo for a few laps was P4 guaranteed.

    VetteIfan said:

    Anyone notice all the drivers are getting a lot more aggressive since they've introduced a new more lenient way of looking at penalties?

    Yes, agreed. It's probably one of the better (and ironically almost completely unpublicised) rule changes in recent times. Seeing drivers pile into the hairpin three or four at a time was mega.

    I doubt Vettel was pushing to the max the entire time, he was saving fuel a fair amount while behind Alonso. Then when Alonso's tyres went, he was probably told to back off and make his last, hence why the gap from the Ric-Alo battle didn't increase, when you'd have thought it would have.


     In comparison, Ricciardo was fighting all race long and pushing most of the time. 


    Anyway, I'd be concerned If I was a Hamilton fan, you know, losing out right now in the championship. 


  7. 7-3 in qualifying
    7-1 in races
    100- minus 80 in reputation

    And in comparison to the Mercedes-duel

    6-4 in favour of Rosberg in qualifying
    5-4 in favour of Hamilton in races


    It isn't 7-1 in races. 

    Australia - Vettel (Retired with issues, issues in Quali)

    Malaysia - Vettel (Ricciardo retired, although he was behind anyway close to the end)

    Bahrain - Ricciardo

    China- Ricciardo 

    Spain - Ricciardo (Vettel retired from Quali)

    Monaco - Ricciardo (Vettel DNF'd while ahead + Issues in Quali )

    Canada - Ricciardo

    Austria - Ricciardo (Vettel retired)

    Britain - Ricciardo 

    Germany - Vettel 


    Statistically it is 7-3 but Vettel has retired 3 times right near the start of the race so really it should be more like 4-3. 

    Monaco -  probably would have been 1 point to Vettel over Ric due to the nature of the track.

    Austria - no reason why he couldn't have beaten Ric, although nothing suggests he would have

    Australia - Probably wouldn't have, but Ricciardo was running an illegal car so he got DSQ'd anyway. 


    Then in Britain, Red Bull have an awesome strategy for Vettel which puts him behind Ric.

    But whatever right?


  8. AMS97KRR said:
    yugin96 said:
    AMS97KRR said:

    Vettel beating Ricciardo was good

    I'd be pretty worried (edit: if I were a Vettel fan) about the fact that Ricciardo finished less than 10 seconds behind Vettel despite being knocked down to P15 after the first lap.

    I doubt Vettel was pushing as hard most of the time, Ricciardo was pushing a lot because he had ground to make up. 


    You will always find a way to discredit Vettel so I honestly don't care. 

    You think Vettel wasn't pushing when he had to battle with Fernando, the Hulk, Kimi, Button and Hamilton?

    Ok.

    Well you know I didn't point out all the specifics, but whatever you say.


  9. yugin96 said:
    AMS97KRR said:

    Vettel beating Ricciardo was good

    I'd be pretty worried (edit: if I were a Vettel fan) about the fact that Ricciardo finished less than 10 seconds behind Vettel despite being knocked down to P15 after the first lap.

    I doubt Vettel was pushing as hard most of the time, Ricciardo was pushing a lot because he had ground to make up. 


    You will always find a way to discredit Vettel so I honestly don't care. 

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