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  1. Thanks for the update Christina. Pleased to hear the BMW M1 is getting a sound update. Can you confirm when the updated audio / sound pack will be released for the Mk2 Escort ? The current sound is, sadly, not even close to a 1976 Group 4 works Escort !

    Cheers.

     

     

     

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  2. 10 minutes ago, F2CMaDMaXX said:

    Hmm, not sure the DR sound was from the Datsun, but i know the sound you're referring to.  You might be right, i don't recall, still, nice and 'cammy' 😄

     

    I am right, I remember it well, it was a real W.T.F!! :classic_ohmy::classic_ohmy::classic_ohmy: moment, sadly the old forum has gone otherwise I would link you to it. The sound dev was @soundfx or something like that.

     

     


  3. 11 minutes ago, F2CMaDMaXX said:

    I don't know full details, and i wonder if you're right on the injection conversion, i don't know - good info though.  

    All i know is the 'correct car' was sourced and recorded.  It does sound good, but i doubt many could tell how it compares based on what you're saying - the previous sound they had was from a more modern version of the escort, this one was one to be more period correct.  I'll ask around.

     

    Thanks, see what you can come up with, I am keen to get involved and help out, I have a wealth of hands on knowledge that I am happy to share.... for free !

    I had a similar discussion on here about 2 years ago when DR was released, a Codie sound dev confirmed on the forum that the sound for the Mk2 Escort came from a 1966 Datsun GT, I kid you not !!

     


  4. On 4/16/2019 at 3:03 AM, F2CMaDMaXX said:

    Sorry, missed some posts here 😞

    @RallyLover19 That is an incorrect statement, ALS pops/bangs are on all cars that should have it, though they're barely perceptible from in car, you need a rear camera view or replay.  Go check out the cool unique ALS from the R5 C3.  Nice rhythmic ALS.

    @bogani They have a few transmision whine types they use, but for recording purposes, it's not something that can be really recorded from all cars.  Not all cars have the sound, and in a lot of cases, the original recordings don't even have the whine, whether the car should have it or not.

    I too liked the DR cockpit sound a little more, bit sometimes direction to the sound team changes, at least it's not D4 and at least we now have the sound sliders, i recommend putting the other sounds down a bit, leaving the engine up.

     

    @AleCruz97 Yeah, you'd think it'd be easier?  Not unfortunately, the sound system has been linked to the physics engine since DR, that means that the sounds have to be able to be called by the engine.  It's why you know from the sound alone that you're going up hill, over a bump, through a dip, slipping on ice etc.

    @Busterbvi I can't argue with your knowledge of what they should sound like, but i can tell you they request a genuine BDG engined car to record, and got it, recorded it, and that's what's in game.

     

    F2CMadMaXX, I note your points. I would be interested to know where you got your info from on the Escort sound recording ? Can you share ? Regarding the Escort, if indeed a BDG engined car was found and recorded, something, clearly, has gone wrong. either the actual recording method or equipment was at fault or, as I suspect, a fuel injected car was used for recording. The BDA / BDG on Webers has a very distinctive sound, on UK events we ran the cars without air filters or a simple mesh air box over the bell-mouths of the Webers to stop ingestion of stones. On more dry dusty events such as the Acropolis, we fitted full foam filters. The awesome sound of the Escorts in the late 70's on UK events, mainly came from induction howl resonating in the engine bay from the open bell-mouths on the twin 48DCOE Webers. Kugelfischer injection was used on many works cars in the early 80's and changed the sound but it's reliability concerned many drivers and most reverted to Webers. Fuel injection has come a long way since then and most Escorts rallying now are injected. However, thankfully, there still many purist owners out there that still run on Webers and not difficult to find. Cars running with full air filters or injection sound very different due to the absence of induction howl through the bell-mouths. I'm sure this is the case with the Escort sound in the game. Right engine, wrong spec.

    If you watch the vid of the 77 RAC you will notice that the Escort, Corolla, Chevette and Fiat all sound very very similar, this is because they are all 4 Cylinder, 2 Litre, DOHC engines running on 48DCOE Webers without air filters.

    I posted the video of the 77 RAC because the sound quality is excellent so members here can hear the true sound of a works Group 4 Escort, I don't think anyone will disagree that the difference in sound from the game Mk2 is like night and day. I do hope Codies will revisit the sound pack for the Escort, if they truly nail it, you guys that enjoy the DR2 76 Escort are in for a real treat. If anyone can put me in contact with a Sound / Audio Codie Dev, I would be grateful. Feel free to PM me on this. Thanks.

     

     


  5. I feel the pain of the OP and I use the Mk2 Escort as a good example. Unfortunately Codies have not got it right ! They simply have not captured that wonderful BDA / BDG on Weber's sound.

    It sounds more like a Millington engine to my well experienced ears. A shame really as they have done a very nice job on the rest of the car. I dont dispute the quality of the recording equipment or the method but I am rather suspect of the choice of car to record. 

    I say this with some authority as I attended every Welsh, Scottish and RAC Rally from 1975 to 1985 as a spectator and some 2 years as an employee of Ford Motorsport at Boreham actually building these cars and enjoying countless hours of pre event testing in the forests and disused military tarmac ranges and service support on the internationals.

    Codies have based their car on a 1976 Escort so to be fair in comparison, here is a clip of Escorts in action on the 77 RAC and Clarks Cossack car on the 76 RAC. I'm sure you will agree that the sound is quite different. Please watch this on a PC with good speakers. It will sound rubbish on a phone, tablet or laptop. I doubt if Codies will update it now so this begs the question, are there any talented sound modders out there that can come up with an authentic sound pack for this awesome car so that members can, finally, enjoy the Works Group 4 RS 1800 in all its true glory.

     

     

     

     

     

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    I wish I could say the Mk2 Escort but unfortunately Codies have not got it right ! They simply have not captured that wonderful BDA / BDG on Weber's sound.

    It sounds more like a Millington engine to my well experienced ears. A shame really as they have done a very nice job on the rest of the car. I say this with some

    authority as I attended every Welsh, Scottish and RAC Rally from 1975 to 1985 as a spectator and some 2 years as an employee of Ford Motorsport at Boreham

    actually building these cars and enjoying countless hours of pre event testing in the forests and disused military tarmac ranges and service support on the internationals.

    Codies have based their car on a 1976 Escort so to be fair in comparison, here is a clip of Clarks Cossack car on the 76 RAC. I'm sure you will agree that the sound is quite

    different. Please watch this on a PC with good speakers. It will sound rubbish on a phone, tablet or laptop. I doubt if Codies will update it now so this begs the question, are

    there any talented sound modders out there that can come up with an authentic sound pack for this awesome car so that members can, finally, enjoy the Group 4 RS 1800

    in all its true glory.

     

     

    Here is some better footage and sound from the 1977 RAC. Same spec Escorts. Enjoy !

     

     

     

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  7. I bought the Deluxe version from Amazon and installed it last week. Not been able to play the game yet as it constantly crashes when the stage of choice is selected. I get the error message " DR2.0 Executable has stopped working, your computer is low on memory" I can't believe this to be the case, its a custom built gaming rig, getting on a bit now I admit but should handle it. Here is my rig spec.

    Asus Z87 Pro motherboard.  Core i7 4770K CPU.  8GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR3 RAM @ 1866 mhz.  Samsung Evo 1TB SSD.  GTX 980ti SC GPU. Dell 32 inch 4K monitor at 3840 x 2160. Win 7/64.

    Not tried anything challenging yet, all I am trying to do is take the Mk2 Escort out for a test drive in NZ !

    Your thoughts and advice for a fix for this would be welcome.

    Cheers.

     

     


  8. Bought the Deluxe Edition for PC on DVD from Amazon but struggling to get it installed ! Steam account is all up to date etc.

    Put Disc 1 in the drive, it goes through the motions with Steam and places a desktop icon and that's all. Doesn't ask for disk 2, 3 & 4.

    Steam says its installed but when I hit PLAY an error message appears that says the 'Executable' is missing. Can't figure out where I am

    going wrong ?  Any ideas chaps ?

    Cheers.

     

     

     


  9. Busterbvi said:
    Totally agree with fresh stages but I think Codies are shooting themselvs in the foot excluding UK.  An all tarmac Manx would be awesome. The UK should be the core of it and USA, Argentina etc offerd as DLC if demand exists. I see it as a deal breaker for many.
    Wales is one of, if not, my favorite locations in DR. That being said, I'm against such a UK centered game. DiRT is not the official BRC game and it's aiming for a global audience. Varied locations, all around the world, are a must right on the base product.

     Fair enough but why exclude UK ?




  10. I'm all for new locations, good news indeed but some bizarre choices, I would suggest keep Wales and  expand the UK stages to the Keilder and Grisdale forrest complex's. Include some Scottish and Irish locations. Finland and Monte must be keepers. USA and Argentina... really !?


  11. Whilst I'm surprised that they've completely discarded DR1's superb stages thus far, let's wait and see what the DLC plans are; it's been hinted some DR1 locations may return.
    Lets hope so Rodger, seems like absolute madness to exclude the UK, surely the best market for Codies. Can't believe Monte is out, crazy !



  12. Busterbvi said:
    Very pleased to see the new international stages in DR2, not sure that the USA is needed, not renowned for its interest in Rallying, its all NASCAR, Drag racing and Indy nonsense over there !
    I have not seen any mention of UK / Wales stages ? Can someone confirm that these new countries are in addition to what was there in D
    you could have been a littel more tactful in that US statement, but whatever.Makes it more appealing ,as its a huge market potential for Codies over here in the US.
    Been involved in Rallying all my life, never noticed any significant interest in it from the States.

  13. Very pleased to see the new international stages in DR2, not sure that the USA is needed, not renowned for its interest in Rallying, its all NASCAR, Drag racing and Indy nonsense over there !
    I have not seen any mention of UK / Wales stages ? Can someone confirm that these new countries are in addition to what was there in DR1 ?



  14. bogani said:
    Busterbvi said:
    Bigsur said:
    From the very brief shot of the rear end of the Escort it looks to be live axle (yay!) with under the diff brace, panhard rod +4 links with rose joint skids/protectors but inclined dampers?? maybe that was just the camera angle.

    I noticed the rear axle too, looks like they are doing a proper job on this, the only thing I noticed missing are the front mudflaps but that is just me nitpicking ! they will hopefully fix that before release. Not sure about those inclined dampers, hopefully the finished article will have right GRP 4  turrets.




    So...  #NoFrontMudflapsNoBuy? 

    Sorry, couldn't help myself  :D

    Silence !! ...... silly person  :#






  15. Bigsur said:
    From the very brief shot of the rear end of the Escort it looks to be live axle (yay!) with under the diff brace, panhard rod +4 links with rose joint skids/protectors but inclined dampers?? maybe that was just the camera angle.

    I noticed the rear axle too, looks like they are doing a proper job on this, the only thing I noticed missing are the front mudflaps but that is just me nitpicking ! they will hopefully fix that before release. Not sure about those inclined dampers, hopefully the finished article will have the right GRP 4  rear turrets.





  16. Yep, found it, looks promising too,  if they get the BDG engine sound right you guys are in for a real treat and those of you that are too young or never got the chance to enjoy the works Group 4 Escorts in action in the forests in the 70's & early 80's for real , will understand why I have campaigned  long and hard to get this car included. About time Codies and thank you !

    I used to work for Ford Motorsport at Boreham building these cars for the Internationals, any Codies reading this, please PM or e-mail me, I have plenty of  useful technical info, build specs and good constructive input for you. If you are keen to get the Escort spot on, I am happy to get involved, free of charge, just happy to help get this most iconic of all rally cars right. POO 505R was one of the cars I was involved with building for the late and great Roger Clark, thankfully well preserved, original, un molested and now in private hands.






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