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That's right. The '01 Impreza and Focus were in the build we saw, as was the '07 Focus.bogani said:
So what exactly are we talking about here and where do we draw the line with modern? Are older spec WRC's like the 01/07 Focus still in the game or are these ruled out as well? Is it just cars from the 2010 and after that are unattainable?KickUp said:
Yep, basically that. It's sad but that's how some rollzoliRX said:'morning @Kick_Up! Could you explain the absence of the modern WRC cars, if possible? Is it the FIA dicking around with the license or is there some exclusivity involved that stopped you from attaing it?
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Useless Impreza factoid: the above is the '06 car and it was plagued with issues. Would love to see the '07 WRCar (the S12b) make the cut!warpengage said:
You could go for a second Subaru that Petter drove, like this:
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Of course, gotta look out for the other Subaru fanboys. ;)bogani said:
Big thanks! I like how Subaru was a separate column. ;)
Did you see any replay? Saw the damage model/repairs? Are the percentage system gone?
Any info if the RX multiplayer is fleshed out as well?
I had a very quick play with the replay features yesterday. I noticed that there are now options for fixing the external cameras in the replay. So you could chose to "cycle" or stick with "helicopter" or "trackside".
Very, very, briefly looked at the damage side of things. Initial impressions were that it was more detailed than the system in Dirt Rally. There was a lot to take in on the day though and that was something that I didn't spend much time with.
Oh yeah, and something that I haven't seen mentioned in any of the previews yet: Nicky Grist is back in the co-driver seat! -
Damn. I take an afternoon off form the Gossip page and now there are hundreds of post to read... ;)
...now the cat is out of the bag, we are free to discuss what we saw at CM last year. With that in mind I thought I would post up the comments I made following my return from CM last year. I'm sure a lot of what is below has been covered elsewhere, but hopefully these might address some of the questions I have read in this thread.
- OVERVIEW: So last year we were, as you have guessed now, shown DiRT 4. If I had to describe it in a sentence, I would say its a game that combines the variety of DiRT 3 with the realism of DiRT Rally.
- MENU: Front end menus were relatively simple, but the service area is a lot more graphic. The overall feel was reminiscent of DiRT 2, but less cartoony: and without the convoluted menus!
- HANDLING: The game can be played with two types of handling: simulation or casual. Both modes are based on the same physics engine, but the casual mode applies more driving aids to the sim model to make it more point and squirt for the casual players. I played sim (on controller) and there were notable improvements from DiRT Rally, rally cars felt different under braking and behaved much better over rough ground at speed. Rallycross Supercars felt very different all around: way more of a handful than DR.
- CLASSES: Rally, Rallycross and Landrush are the main race classes. There was also "another" area, where driving challenges are based (I'll cover that in a minute).
- RALLY: Based around 5 locations: Wales, Sweden, Australia, Spain and the US (Michigan).
- RALLY: Stages will be predefined in the career mode, but there is a random stage creation tool.
- YOUR STAGE: I was genuinely impressed with Your Stage (or trackgen as it was called on the day). A stage creation tool had actually been hinted as a possibility before we got to CM and I was hoping that wouldn't be the case as I didn't think such a system would work that well. I thought a generation system would restrict you to flat, predictable, stage configurations, however with the stages that I sampled (most notably in Wales) there were a lot of direction and elevation changes.
- RALLY CARS: The car list is loosely the same as the list from DiRT Rally. The only notable omissions are the 2010 rally cars (plus I also don't remember seeing the C4). The absence of the latter WRCars was probably the only disappointment of the day. However there are a lot of additions. including R2 and R5 rally car classes and the Evo 6 to the Group A class. There were around 25 cars available for us to try in November, with the rest represented by placeholders.
- SUBARU: The hatchback STI in the R4 class has been replaced with the latest generation (NR4). The 2001 WRCar and Group A cars were still in.
- RALLYCROSS: Rallycross has been increased to 5 tracks: Montalagre (Portugal), Lydden Hill (England), Loheac (France), Holjes (Sweden) and Hell (Norway). World Rallycross endorsement has been retained. I haven't been to Montalagre so I can't comment on the accuracy, but Loheac felt absolutely spot on (and we saw it before a lot of the trackside details had been added, so its sure to look even better in the finished game)
- RALLYCROSS CARS: The rallycross Supercars have now got the Focus RS RX and the Seat Ibiza added, the Polo has been added to the S1600 rallycross line up (in place of the Corsa if I recall correctly), plus there are RX Lites, a Group B rallycross class (woo!) and cross karts as well.
- LANDRUSH: Landrush has three tracks (one Mexican and two American). Landrush features Pro 2 trucks, Pro 4 trucks, buggies and cross karts. I had a couple of goes in the Pro 2 trucks and they felt really good.
- DIRTFISH: The "other" area is Dirtfish. When the game loaded for the first time it dropped you in here first. I had a brief drive around and did some donuts in the big barn (where the GRC track ran through) before getting back to some racing. There are a number of racing challenges (block smashing and following a course) that utilize the Dirtfish environment. I was told the Dirtfish area comes in two forms: one flat and one with a few mounds and other obstacles added in. Nothing too over the top though. And no one mentioned the thing that rhymes with "Farm Calmer".
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5 rallycross tracks! ;-)RallyDriven said:
Yeah, but there's basically infinite stages! Plus I think 3 landrush and 6 rallycross tracksbogani said:
I don't wanna be that guy but... only 5 locations for rally? I hope there will be more.Azoresst said:According to Eurogamer: "For more traditional rally, Dirt 4 boasts five locations - Australia, Spain, Michigan, Sweden and Wales"
So 3 new locations (from DR - Michigan was present in D3, right?) but some dropped from DR. -
Can't believe they included "S1 E2" in the announcement. That has just ruined everything. -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_bV_FGZbr0dgeesi0 said:something is definitely happening ! come on guys and gals what is it ? :p
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Never underestimate the power of cake. Or curry.ChristinaMc said:Gosh, you guys are really obsessed with food!... -
I'm a man of my word. If food is provided I will deliver the goods. I don't think @JZStudios can get a delivery to me in time though.BadD0g said:tbtstt said:You'll never break me!
(Unless you've got beer, then there is a strong possibility I can be broken).RallyDriven said:I'll tell you everything for a box of shortbread
Wait a minute... could this be a ploy to get free food?Evilsmurf said:3 packs of chocolate hobnobs or I ain't sayin nothin :p
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I'm pretty partial to a cookie @Evilsmurf. I need specifics @JZStudios, what sort of cookies are we talking about and how soon can you get them to me?Evilsmurf said:JZStudios said:
How about Cookies?tbtstt said:
You'll never break me!789ifyz said:
To be fair, half of that is actually house pricing and kebab pizzas, so...BadD0g said:
Reading too much into things is what we do here! This thread isn't almost 700 pages long for nothing. ;)warpengage said:Don't read much into it, it's probably just the fact that the car in the screenshots is seconds away from unleashing the storm and starting the stage.
That said, let'smake uplook for clues. Any significance to the Jolly Club livery?
Oh, and the NDA trolls enjoying life on the other side of the fence... damn traitors! TELL US EVERYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
I'll just go find that old torture table, now.
(Unless you've got beer, then there is a strong possibility I can be broken).
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You'll never break me!789ifyz said:
To be fair, half of that is actually house pricing and kebab pizzas, so...BadD0g said:
Reading too much into things is what we do here! This thread isn't almost 700 pages long for nothing. ;)warpengage said:Don't read much into it, it's probably just the fact that the car in the screenshots is seconds away from unleashing the storm and starting the stage.
That said, let'smake uplook for clues. Any significance to the Jolly Club livery?
Oh, and the NDA trolls enjoying life on the other side of the fence... damn traitors! TELL US EVERYTHING YOU KNOW!!!
I'll just go find that old torture table, now.
(Unless you've got beer, then there is a strong possibility I can be broken). -
@BadD0g gets it!BadD0g said:
Reading too much into things is what we do here! This thread isn't almost 700 pages long for nothing. ;)warpengage said:Don't read much into it, it's probably just the fact that the car in the screenshots is seconds away from unleashing the storm and starting the stage.
That said, let'smake uplook for clues. Any significance to the Jolly Club livery? -
Not sure how much I would trust DiRT weather forecasts...Azoresst said:https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/823923319544029184
"The calm before the storm"... Interesting... -
Get on eBay, buy a Mega Drive and experience the greatness for yourself.JZStudios said:
I'm still saddened I never got a chance to play Micro machines... I got V4 as a wee babby but my computer wouldn't handle it.BadD0g said:
One day, all Codemasters IPs will merge into one: "Micro Formula: GiRTkhana ShowRally"dotmartin said:
Is it finally time for the previously rumored GRiT?ChristinaMc said:We are working with the guys from Evo, but not necessarily directly on any projects - they're working on their own, brand new IP. :)
I also had it for my Game Gear and many hours were killed on it. -
Ah damn, didn't know you were at Brands! -
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder: I would pick a Fiesta WRCar to own over any current Ferrari without hesitation!gfRally said:Just a side note: Personally I don't think any WRC car has ever looked like a dream, not the way a Ferrari or Mclaren looks, maybe a Porsche. I see them for their engineering and sound, that being the case, I'm becoming a big fan of Toyota right now! -
I'm torn between the Hyundai and the Ford as the best looking car. I think the i20 looks the least radical of all the new cars, the Fiesta looks mad and sounds great.bogani said:I think the Yaris look silly. I like the Hyundai the best to be honest.
The Yaris does sound good, but it looks like a box: it's like a modern 6R4!
Looking forward to seeing some video of the cars from @Rallycameraman. -
Well Monte has delivered drama in the past and this has certainly been an eventful weekend. Bad start to the rally for Evans, but a serious show of pace from him when the tyres weren't letting him down. A mistake compounded by bad luck for Meeke, surely not the start to the year he wanted. Impressive pace from Neuville, pity about the mistake but, in this environment, there is no doubt the Hyundai has some speed.
To the outsider it light look like "same old" with Ogier on top, but he has had to fight and, reassuringly, the Fiesta hasn't romped away from everyone. I think its been a very encouraging start to the year, roll on Sweden! -
Meeke out in SS5. :( Not the pace I was hoping for from Evans either. Great drive from Neuville out front though and Tanak is going well! -
Yeah, absolutely. It's very sad (and you certainly shouldn't speak ill of the dead), but that was a stupid place to be spectating from.RallyDriven said:He was stood on the outside of a bend covered in black ice, no cover, and no where to escape. As I suspected, the papers are already picking it up, the mirror in the uk has wrote an article, fortunately it's just factual and well written, but you just know a shitty article is on its way from the daily mail
Sadly - and as you have already said @RallyDriven - I am not convinced that the rest of the press will check all the facts as carefully before posting articles. I really hope they do, as this isn't the sort of big story that we want attached to the new WRCars. -
Not pizza. We didn't see a single slice of it at Codemasters.dgeesi0 said:i smell something is cooking.what is it though ? -
I have thought the Toyota has looked the least competent car throughout testing: I hope I'm proven wrong when they hit the stages!Underkex said:It's me or the Toyota looks bad? Not fast in corners, even understeering. -
Fast and consistent from Ogier. It's only shakedown, but Ogier certainly gives the impression that he has a handle on the car. First clips from shakedown:
https://youtu.be/MckfjsazERM
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I saw the whole thing from across the room. I thought @Rallycameraman was going to go full-Galli on you.RallyDriven said:Also, as @Rallycameraman found out, I'm not as good at virtual co-driving as I am at real life co-driving! I put it down to being an Xbox player and having no idea of the PlayStation controller layout!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmp_ELOZdwM
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