dwin20

Agree

This is more of realtime dashboard information on telemetry as opposed to some of the more analytical versions...

1) Grand Prix 4 (released in 2002) 2) F1 Challenge 99-02 (released in 2003) F1 2019 is a really fun, enjoyable, an interesting game - but without the integration of setups and telemetry the above two had - it can't match up to those as an F1 game.

Earlier in this thread I posed the question what was the last F1 PC racing game that didn't have telemetry... In looking at the games that were produced in this century (seriously) there have been 5 different companies besides Codemasters, and those were in the first decade, not this decade. Of those five (looking at wikipedia), two of the games I can't tell whether they had telemetry or not as it is hard to find documentation, although one of them had setups that seemed to match the current F1 2019 (Edios in 2001) and the other was "Hot Wheels Williams F1 Team Driver" (KnowWonder/THQ in 2001). The other three - which produced multiple versions were by Ubisoft, EA, and Microprose. All of these had telemetry - and some their earlier versions of the game with telemetry were developed in the last century. So Project Cars and Assetto Corsa aren't really doing anything new - just including what has been a standard part of racing games for over 20 years.

Curious - what was the one change that got you the biggest amount of time and where on the track - or was it more incremental than that? (Using this app)

What do you mean by nervous? Thanks - your overall post was very helpful.

What do you mean by "You just got an engineer?" Thanks

Iko Rein's app version 9.1 works on both, and he says you can compare laps between F1 2018 and F1 2019 - although I have never tried it. Here is the link: https://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/telemetry-application.27456/

@kevinkirk To be sure I understood you - that the UDP is just the data that Codemasters transmits - that some telemetry apps for the PC version of the game have access to more data because they can look directly in to the realtime files the program is creating/using - which means there are other elements in the car modeling that the UDP does not reflect... Is that correct? Thanks

@SimracerGysepyI think Codemasters were trying to setup a lap where the idea was to set the mechanical and aero grip - and then driving to hit corner apexes correctly. I like being able to practice hitting the apexes as a separate exercise - but you are right as a simulation part of the challenge is getting the right tire temperature throughout the lap. So the idea of having an option to turn this on and off is a good one - since, as you point out, they do it in other modes.

@Algarde curious as to how you think the engine not realized to give a simulation? Thanks

@Zeraxxgiven the chart above how come the following below do not impact the channels for the temps for brakes and tires for F1 2019? uint16 m_brakesTemperature[4]; // Brakes temperature (celsius) uint16 m_tyresSurfaceTemperature[4]; // Tyres surface temperature (celsius) uint16 m_tyresInnerTemperature[4]; // Tyres inner temperature (celsius)

The ikorein app works on a MAC - as it is Java based - so it works on a variety of platforms. I have a MAC and that is what I currently use... However if there are others you come across would be interested to hear about!

This is a post by @Zeraxx in the "F1 2019 Telemtry App, RacingSimTools.com" thread (couldn't figure out how to quote from another thread): The manual addresses a lot of the things you brought up, first the car selection is a "generic" car list it's not meant to be for one game like you suggested to help people get an idea what IR they might need. for F1 2019, the only inputs you need to enter are wheelbase and track width. F1 2019 actually supports quite a few data channels more than games like ACC. I think F1 2019 supports more than 75% of the available data channels.

Question for the PC users - what/when was the last non-Codemasters PC F1 racing (not managing) game published that didn't have telemetry in it?