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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    BrySkye said: austinb said: Ok i see that im wasting my time with the NZ thing, think whatever you like, PS corsica is also nothing like monaco it is much wider and faster, but again i will leave it at that. It's only a waste of time when you try to insist your opinion on something is 'right'. :) Most of use are just describing what the situation is, as opposed to what we think it should be. I appreciate that is what you have been doing but others havent. I dont see the problem in confronting the situation if I disagree with it, however It has turned into more than I intended and is no longer on topic so i will stop.
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    Ok i see that im wasting my time with the NZ thing, think whatever you like, PS corsica is also nothing like monaco it is much wider and faster, but again i will leave it at that. Didzis said: austinb said: the very essence of rally is driving a road you dont know (at least not well) but obviously a game cant make enough stages so you only run each one a few times in your life, like a real planet can provide. Thats what makes a rally game harder to perfect than circuit racing, those games can easily give you the same experience as real life, as in real life repeating a track over and over is the whole point.Rally is point to point racing on public roads, not knowing the track is just a side effect of the format of the sport. I don't think that's the point of rallying. You get a co-drive because you don't know the track. The point is getting from A to B the fastest-Actually its illegal to rally on public roads in the UK. (Edit: Turns out that law changed recently, but rallys arent always on public roads.) -Exactly, the Side effect of the sport, i said the essence of it, they mean a similar thing, i did not say that not knowing was the point of rally, read my post again. And yeah i know some stages are used again and again, but these same stages often change (not so much tarmac) plus theres a big difference between a wrc driver doing a stage 20-40 times in his life to a circuit driver doing anything up to 2000 laps or so, that is my point. 
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    Well for a lot of motorsport fans, "colours on a box" are not important its how they actually play that is relevant, but then codemasters do need to appeal to people who dont know about rallying as well. @RyuMakkuro You're right about the fact rally games are harder, because the very essence of rally is driving a road you dont know (at least not well) but obviously a game cant make enough stages so you only run each one a few times in your life, like a real planet can provide. Thats what makes a rally game harder to perfect than circuit racing, those games can easily give you the same experience as real life, as in real life repeating a track over and over is the whole point. Wales and NZ stages are not "just slightly different". Mexico for example is very similar to greece, San Remo is similar to Monaco (just in summer), lots of European Tarmac rallies are very similar. In conparison to them, Wales and NZ are hugely different.
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    TonyRickard said: If you take the iRacing spotter function as an example, your co-driver would get a real time feed of the stage and have a dedicated chat channel for two way communication. iRacing also provide a spectator function which again is a real time feed of the event where spectators can chat amongst themselves. This seems a potentially attractive option for leagues wishing to run an event where driver/co-driver teams would take turns to run. The preparation for the event by the pairing compiling pace notes would make it a proper team effort. I guess the downside is that as drivers get to learn stages like they do a race circuit the role of the co-driver diminishes. Your last sentence is spot on. Theres no real point in having your mate co-drive, if you know the stages. It would only come alive if a random stage generator type thing existed, but thats not going to happen...
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    gfRally said: Following this argument, I have a question.  I understand the palette differences for marketing and changing the feeling of the location, thats fine.   BUT How do other games get away with it and still produce a marketable game?  Assetto Corsa, F1, PCars or WRC all have a lot of similar looking places, however each venue is still unique.   Its early in the morning here, so I am just throwing this out with out thinking to hard on it.Discussion not argument! ;) I would suggest that with circuit racing, people generally expect to have a dark grey strip of road with 2 tone curbs and then beige gravel or grass. In the real world circuits (especially modern ones) dont have a huge amount of palette variation. With what rally is as a discipline, it inherently has a much broader variety of scenery/colours, as they drive on different terrains in different places. So i guess its expected of a rally game to represent a varied palette where as in circuit racing games its not expected. 
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    BrySkye said: You don't get it. I'm not sharing my personal opinion about New Zealand, I'm stating why it's not a wise choice from a design point of view when the choices are so limited. This is a -game-. When you have a small selection, and DiRT Rally does, the contrasts have to be night and day stark so that when your average person looks at the screenshots on the back of the box, they see very distinct palettes. Yes, I'm referring to the visuals. That's the point. No one -here- is saying Wales and New Zealand are actually the same for goodness sake. Watch the DiRT Show again and Paul's own words. Like I said, you can disagree all you want but it's not going to change the situation.Actually i completely understand your point and agree that the stages have to look different to appeal, but I simply belive the NZ is different enough. Finland looks far more similar to Wales than Nz would, but its in the game because its a completely different type of rally. I understand the reason completely, i just dont think that reason applies to NZ. And yeah im not sitting here thinking I can change what Paul does, Im just stating I think the reason is invalid. I understand why It wont likely be in the game because its the furthest possible place to visit, I dont buy the fact that its "too similar", visually or physically. You stated that Malaysia would be good because its "different". Yet a lot of NZ stages look very similar to what you would find in a place like Malaysia, the plants, the red dirt... Yes this is my personal opinion, and its not going to change the situation, but this is the Gossip thread, and the entire point of it is that we dont have facts so we share our opinions.
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    You can disagree all you want, but it's a general observation for the masses. :P  It's in reference to the games palette. Yes, it's different, but it's not different -enough-. Paul said this himself, so that's something we just have to accept. When you only have 6-8 locations, every one has to be very different. Paul knows that and knows that at the end of the day, it's better for the game. Sometimes games design is going to conflict with the rally enthusiast inside us. That's why I've championed somewhere like Malaysia, which has a lot of distinct red soil/mud and tropical foliage completely unlike anything in the game right now. Australia would also hold up. Or possibly Japan which, while in some ways similar to Monte Carlo with a lot of hill-side tarmac sections, also tends to feature heavy rain with open Japanese countryside, rice paddies, etc, with more high speed sections. You seem to only be taking into account the visuals of the stages and not the actual layout and feel of them. The way the stages drive is a pretty much unique experience from anywhere in the world. The constant extreme camber and narrow roads would require a different driving style for sure.  You say how Malaysia has red mud and tropical plants... well so do the rally NZ stages... the foliage itself really separates it from wales visually as does the awesome landscape in general. I feel there is a misconception that NZ is the same as Wales, some parts are but lots of parts are very different with alpine type areas and tropical areas (where they have hot summers with huge storms). If done correctly the stages would look and feel very unique.  Watch at least half of this then tell me its too similar to Wales. https://youtu.be/1ngESrztC3c
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    I disagree that NZ is too similar to Wales, The both have sheep and forests and raid and mud... but despite that, the style of the stages and the mountainous terrain used in NZ rallies do make it very different
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    versedi said:said: I'm gonna sum a few things up: @Kickup: "Lets just say something that I have wanted for our games...."Well I see there's a plural - games. So it may not be only related to racing games.    I would assume that it is only games that he has been involved in, which I believe to be only the dirt games but yes plural racing games...   3. @Kickup: "@Rallycameraman @MastaVonBlasta It will be coming to DR" We can be sure it's coming. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be in both releases (consoles and PCs). I'm assuming that either he and his team had this done and closed in a drawer even without management approval. In that case there's no problem in implementing it before release (guys it's 3 months, that's hell lot of time). Three months is not much time at all, and I highly doubt they have been working on something in their own time, maybe a test to try something but no a complete item. Again. Why do you think it has to be finished by April?!?!?! Rally Raid was in DIRT 2 so cant be that. Evo IX was in DIRT 2 also. There werent any rally schools in the DIRT games, only in Colin McRae Games.
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    BrySkye said: Even if it's a later update, that doesn't mean it won't also apply to the console releases, which is why I say PC-specific features like editing tools are unlikely. We don't know who the permission is from. It could be from Codies management for all we know. Yes I agree with that, im talking about a time frame, they deffinately wont add a large feature only on one platform. I think it sounds like its from management rather than an external party, perhaps: "Yeah go ahead you can blow a few thousand on a trip to NZ if you really think its worth it"
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    A lot of people are still assuming it will be in for Console release, i doubt this, its more likely going to be a later update. Hopefully they've been allowed to go to New Zealand, rally stages and Race to the Sky hill climb please! gfRally said: Digging around Rally Schools, I found this from way back, possible connection? https://twitter.com/dirtfishrally/status/486613458406735872 EDIT: David Binks also used to work at DirtFish as an instructor They also visited Phil Price Rally school in development for DIRT3, and the game featured an unlockable livery. While I think a rally school is a good idea i dont think thats what he's talking about.
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    Why shouldnt you wait till April for anything new? There's no reason why PC should get anything else before then. It'd be nice but why expect it?
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    Pulse is aweful, dirt 4 would have been too familiar, it needed a different name to make people think, "oh its different" (to dirt 2/3). I think dirt delta would have been a good name, but then some manufacturers may have been a bit put off...
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    Well i think its fair to say theres no question he has zero interest in and no idea about motorsport at all.  I think he made his game in preparation for this moment: http://craiglager.co.uk/games-i-made/crywankface/
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    Road book up, Last one unfortunately :( but we will get a dirt show next week!
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    How much did you get it for? (if you dont mind me asking)
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    RyuMakkuro said: austinb said: TURBODEVIN19 said: I'm flying to Poland tomorrow, I'll let you know if I find any caves.Just came back from Poland on Tuesday, didnt see any caves, only a mine, and roads were better than where i live in EnglandMain roads are nowadays good. But the backroads... well, complete and utter crap. The roads you have in the Rally Poland seem to you guys like gravel, while they are actually tarmac roads. That's how bad they are. Just pointing it out, so that everyone realise that Rally Poland is not just gravel or just tarmac. It's mixed rally, but in a very mixed way. You're driving on tarmac and gravel at the same time basically, most of the time. Naturally there are full gravel sections and full tarmac sections here and there, but most of the time it's crappy tarmac that has its holes filled with gravel that accumulated over time.Yeah i beleive you, i get what you're saying, it is a very interesting surface
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    TURBODEVIN19 said: RyuMakkuro said: bogani said: Not a fan of too many rough gravel rallies. Poland would be cool though. A bit like Finland, nice gravel stages but much narrower. Reminds of the summer rally roads here in Sweden.Actually, those roads in Poland are not really fully gravel. That's the state of tarmac that the B roads in Poland respresent. It should be tarmac, but instead half of the road is gravel because... no one could be bothered to fix it properly so the holes got filled with gravel over time. Yeah, I know. We have many jokes about the state of roads in Poland, most common one is if you want to find caves in Poland, you just need to drive on our roads xDI'm flying to Poland tomorrow, I'll let you know if I find any caves. Just came back from Poland on Tuesday, didnt see any caves, only a mine, and roads were better than where i live in England
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    I have another suggestion. Stop posting!! ;)
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    "Monster" Tajima is legendary in the hill climb discipline, so either his Escudo or SX4 could be contenders? (they already have one of his SX4's modelled from DIRT3) Personally my dream would be for codies to take a trip to New Zealand. -Collect info for (arguably) the most stunning cambered rally stages in the world. -Visit the "Race to the sky" hillclimb venue and add some all gravel variation to the hillclimb section. I know its the furthest possible place to visit, but its 2 venues for one trip!! please! :)
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    gfRally said: No rally school, this: "For fresh players, we've developed a detailed set of tutorial videos that cover all aspects of driving a rally car. We want to teach players how to handle our cars, rather than making things easier." - Red Bull interview  Yes this is what we have confirmed so far, however there could still be a good chance an actual gameplay section that follows on from those videos will be added. A "Now try and have a go for yourself" type thing, perhaps on a new rally school style location/ test area. The devs, seemed very interested in doing such a thing in the first months of EA and were asking whether such a feature would be preferred to a re-do of the replay system if i recall.
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    xavivg said: It have sense, for me. I just wanted to know your opinion. Almost everybody voted no so okay, Dirt will be a fantastic arcade-sim game, that i love it. Anyway, if you voted yes or no, thanks for your time and for vote it. People who's give to me an "offtopic", take it  :kissing_heart:  Now please,  continue the activity of the typical dirty-gossip thread cheers you could always join in if you wish
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    TonyRickard said: xavivg said: Please can you vote this thread?  http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/37483/please-allow-us-to-change-grip-like-the-first-build-of-dirt-rally ThanksSome additional variability would be nice above and beyond the wet or dry tracks tracks we have now. For instance this years Wales Rally was beyond just a bit of rain :) A bit like in Assetto Corsa you can select a level of track grip it would be nice to add something like a "very slippery" weather setting. Then it wouldn't open up access to grip levels to users which could impact online competition. That would be great if the devs added, a quagmire type stage condition such as in rally gb this year (and corsica actually) so theres, deep puddles across the whole trac that become their own water splashes, and streams running across the tarmac stages in places, and maybe even a increased number of rocks on the stages, so real caution has to be taken. Great idea my friend
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    xavivg said: Please can you vote this thread?  http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/37483/please-allow-us-to-change-grip-like-the-first-build-of-dirt-rally Thanks No problem mate, I voted no, you're welcome :)
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    DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

    gfRally said: Evilsmurf said: but the A2 looks so... ugly!                                                              Most Rally cars are ugly, but thats what makes them so great.  Want pretty? Go drive a Ferrari or something. :smiley:    Why not have both?
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