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  1. vettel will look at it the way Schumacher looked at it, it only matters what you do against your team mate if you're fighting for a championship, if you're not your basically fighting over who is the quickest loser..which is why I have always looked at it more of a team sport, the real fight is between the teams, drivers are ten a penny, plenty young guns to replace any driver out there. if vettel and ricciardo have a championship winning car we will then see who is best, its pointless arguing about trivial things like this in a forum when realistically its one persons opinion against anothers, the end of season table never normally lies, whoever is top at the end has done the better job on that given year in that particular car, but come on don't tell me you aint followed f1 long enough to realise there are a whole load of different scenarios that can play out each season, the car might suit 1 driver 1 year and the other driver the next year, 1 might have more dnf's or crashes but that's just racing. some could say kimi was deserving champion in 2005 but Alonso's car was more reliable and that's all part of the game, so many factors come into it which is why its hard to judge these drivers against each other, everyone belittled massa at Ferrari as Alonso was so dominant yet he is doing a great job at Williams and even Alonso said he was his fastest teammate, even ahead of Hamilton. F1 is such a complicated sport is frustrates at times.  only when drivers retire you can look back on there career and judge how they performed over there career rather than one particular season, just sit back and enjoy it

    Paragraphs man :p 

    I find some of what you said that quite interesting - you said Raikkonen was probably the deserving 2005 champ (I wouldn't know) and this is part of the problem with Vettel - he's won two championships that in my opinion shouldn't have been his (2010 should have been Webber's and could have been Alonso's if Ferrari didn't cock up - 2012 should have been either Hamilton's or Alonso's.) This is why a lot of us think that Vettel is over rated.

    2010 retirements probably worked in his favour
    2011 he had the best car
    2012 he probably had the best car towards the end of the season as the McLaren was so unreliabl
    2013 best car, helped by the mid season tyre changes.

    Now I'm not saying that other drivers haven't had the best car - Button springs to mind - but the majority have done notable things in other seasons with bad cars - Alonso in 2012, Hamilton in 2009, Raikkonen in 2012. Excluding the fluke Toro Rosso win, Vettel hasn't really had a bad season up until now and look what's happening.

    But everyone has bad points - Hamilton in 2011, Button every year bar 2009/2010 and Raikkonen this season. I'll give Vettel another year but let's wait and see.

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