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  1. Just so we are clear, we are talking about the contact that makes me spin sideways and lose 4 places.  

    Not the contact after Ive gone sideways, with the car/cars passing me on the right.   
    That contact is my fault, as im all over the place, due to the previous contact.   Thats why I get out of the way of 4th place. 

  2. @crumplezone im just not seeing that.  

    Could you point out the gap on the inside that you say he's going for.  

    The only gap on my inside that I can see, is off the track, and will get you a corner cut penalty if you drive over it,   so that cant be the gap your speaking of? 

    As for me going alot slower, its the 1st turn, from a standing start.  Im in 1st place.  On the wrong side of the track to take the corner at race speed.  I cant move to the left, as there is a car over there, and behind, and they need room to brake.   The contact from the car BEHIND, puts me sideways, and I lose 4 places.  
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    Quote from racing etiquette thread :

    Operator1 said:

    ...
    National Auto Sport Association (NASA) Club Codes & Regulations
    http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/ccr.pdf

    "...Section 25.4 Rules for Overtaking

    25.4.1 Passing General

    The responsibility for the decision to pass another car, and to do it safely, rests with the overtaking driver... The act of passing is initiated when the trailing car's (Car A) front bumper overlaps with the lead car's (Car B ) rear bumper. The act of passing is complete when Car A's rear bumper is ahead of Car B's front bumper...
    [ Im clearly INFRONT of his FRONT bumper]

    25.4.2 Punting

    The term 'punting' is defined as nose to tail (or side-of-the-nose to side-of-the-tail) contact, where the leading car is significantly knocked off of the racing line. Once the trailing car has its front wheel next to the driver of the other vehicle, it is considered that the trailing car has a right to be there. And, that the leading driver must leave the trailing driver enough 'racing room.' ...
    [ Im clearly INFRONT of his FRONT bumper]


    25.4.3 Right to the Line

    The driver in front has the right to choose any line, as long as they are not considered to be blocking. The driver attempting to make a pass shall have the right to the line when their front wheel is next to the driver of the other vehicle... 
    [ Im clearly INFRONT of his FRONT bumper]
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    So, are you sticking with your first assement @crumplezone?  



  3. camron72 said:
    Fair driver let u go to the front if it is safe...idiot will be drive as idiot...i prefer coll off racing...coll on max 4-5 drivers...
    It is possible to have a fair 12 player race.   You just need to have 12 players who are happy to have 12th place, and a fair close race.   

    It doesnt work when there are people who "cannot" be last, and have to pass using any means. 
    Nothing more annoying than being taken out at the 1st corner, by a "good player". 

    I dont want to be last, but if the 11 players infront of me, are faster and have overtaken me, or there is simply no way past them without contact, then im happy with last. 

  4. @Loore I keep starting a TT, (various tracks n car class)  and All I get is Turbo whistle and tyre screech.   No engine revs.  

    Can you get the team onto it,  I know we wont see a fix for this.......this year,  but it would be nice for it to be fixed when Ive got an Xbox One. :neutral_face: 

  5. I would love to join a lobby, where I dont have to do that.  
    Custom Cups with friends :smile: 

    Nah, I prefer the randomness of the online lobbies.  I will just continue to smash idiots out of the lobby.   
    I like racing with my friends, but against other people aswell.  Not everyone in a public playlist is a dirty noob. 

  6. @revesburger  They do get dealt with, very swiftly too,  But I dont want to have to do it, every race.  

    At the moment, if I join a lobby, there will be some idiots,  I will have to start behind them,  they will attempt to take me out, when I attempt to pass clean, they will get binned, their friends will get binned, and I will end up starting infront of them.  And they can start at the back calling me dirty.  

    I would love to join a lobby, where I dont have to do that.  

  7. @VGspeedPro -  Id say its that random luck factor that makes it fair.  

    Everyone gets a chance to get pole position,  Start last and get nailed, or start in the middle, 

    Id like to see an auto lobby points reset, when one person reaches 200 points, Reset everyone to 0.  That would put an end to people leaving lobbies because the guy in 1st place, had 500 ponts.  

  8. Its boring starting in the front all the time, 

    It gets tiring when you have to start next to the same idiot who wants to nail you before you reach the start line.  

    Random would  solve the problem, and keep moving racers and idiots around, 

    I like the current system, but its not a fair system. 
    I have no problem starting from the back,  but I have a massive problem if I have to do it EVERY race.   

    Thats exactly why I used 3 save games in Grid 2,  so I can decide where I start. 

  9. better than Random, make it Standings Reversed.

    if you are good enough to be in front, you should be good enough to overtake everyone.

    most of the times, whoever starts first, wins. especially if they are okay/good drivers. Reverse Standings grid order would make everybody work hard for the win ;)
    No it would turn it into a Grid 2 ram fest, as the good drivers would have to start behind the idiot drivers all the time.   

    Meaning you have to fight to get past half the lobby.   
    Random is the only fair way.  

  10. fanticUA said:
    Cute, let's talk about culture of... playing (racing... driving...) ? :)
    If you make "First Contact"  don't be surprised when we have a "Close Encounter"
    This is not my word...
    No....Its my word.  It means.....if you T-bone me, dont cry when I smash your car off every wall or solid object in the game. 

    So if you pull your signature move at the 1st turn, dont cry when people show YOU how much they appreciated it. 

  11. I have posted some of the same types of ideas/complaints. But, after some thought I have came to this conclusion: While you think you have been done wrong or dirty by someone chances are they have a different side of the story and they swear they are right too. So unless you have a completely non-partial person that saw the incident nothing will be resolved. And even then it probably will still not be resolved. I am not saying this to take anyone's side I am just stating my thoughts and who knows I may be wrong.

    There is one thing that does get me mad is when racing with a group of cars and you are giving the folks in front of you room into a tight section like a chicane and you get run over from behind. Then when you say something about to this person they don't apologize they instead say you are slow or were holding them up. Like you had anywhere to go in the 1st place. Most of the time though if this happens early in a race, you will beat them because their impatient ways will cost them again. 
    Agree,  

    But alot of incidents could be easily avioded, if these so called clean drivers actually demonstrated they know and understand and practise the above guidelines. 

    Ive posted a video of the scenario you describe, when your allowing cars infront of you to do what the're doing,  LOL all I got was "Im constantly backing off"  "Im going too slow,"  "Id hit you if I were behind you"

    When there is no where for you to go, because of a tight turn and 2 or 3 cars already scrapping over space,  the only option is to chill and wait.  That doesnt mean pull over and have a picnic, but just dont drive like there is a clear track ahead.

    Its down to the car behind to make sure they dont hit the car infront of them in the braking zone. Or any other part of the track. 

    How often does last place on the grid of an F1 race, scream down the inside of everyone at the start and cause a mass pile up?  

    Even the fastest person on the track, uses their brakes, and wont be at FULL throttle all the time.  :smile:   

  12. racrguy66 said:
    I would also like to say that in time trials is  by far the worst. I cant say how many times I have caught players and when I  try to pass them they deliberately swerve over and try to wreck and block you. I was invited by another driver to race in a time trial, and caught up to him and he continually blocked me so when I gave him a nudge to let him know he was holding me up in case there was any doubt (did it on a straight and did not not wreck him just tapped him) he became furious and had me voted out after the race. I tried to explain that he was given a head start and the right thing to do was to pull aside to allow me  to pass, he disagreed? Now am I wrong to assume this?  I always move if someone is close as to not ruin their chance at a good lap time and get off the racing line while I  do it. Comments?
    Its a time attack.  A race against the clock.  Not a race against other cars. 
    Codemasters should have realised this, and turned off collisions for all clock racing events. 

    The guy should have moved out of your way, as its not a race.   But people are idiots and wont.  
    I tend to waste 1st lap of a time attack, to just drop right to the back,  Almost getting lapped by the guy who started 1st.  Atleast that way I have a clear track. 

  13. My personal pet peeve is being rammed off the track by someone in front of you having made a mistake and taking you out as a result of wanting to get straight back on the racing line
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    I agree with that,  What really annoys me is when, the above happens, and the person who made the mistake then blames me,  for their mistake.  

  14. This is not my work,  but I think its good advice,   

    DomBomb32 - This is what you dont know, and the reason that YOU are the bad racer, and not ME.   

    This was taken from http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/941103-gran-turismo-5/57778411
    Cut n pasted here for ease. 
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    Ever been online and been accused/accused someone of being a dirty racer? Been rammed and spun out? Hit someone and they spun out? It happens to everyone. Well I'm here to tell you about the most basic rule to remember when throwing around accusations:

    Whoever has the racing line has the right of way (track position in racing speak).

    I shouldn't need to tell anyone what the racing line is, but when it involves avoiding incidents it can be more than 'the optimum line around the track to keep the most speed'. The most common example of this online is two cars that are traveling side by side on a straight. One car has drafted the other, pulled alongside and they are now approaching a corner. The car that will be on the inside during the corner technically has track position, even if the corner is normally approached from the outside, and the outer driver must maintain his spot on the outside of the track through the corner.

    However, that rule applies only when both cars are side by side (any part of the cars overlap lengthwise). If the outside car is ahead of the inside car by a car length or more (rear bumper in front of the inside cars front bumper) and is on the optimum racing line, the the outside car has track position and is therefore free to take whatever line he pleases through the corner. The inside driver MUST yield in this situation. If in actual F1, for example, this scenario happens and the inside driver fails to yield, an accident will most likely occur and the inside driver will be penalized by the stewards. With changing speeds, either of these scenarios can cross into the realm of the other very quickly, so you must be aware of the other car's position and closing speed as best you can. If you have any doubt, maintain your place on the track but keep your speed, so if you're on the inside and aren't sure if you're alongside the other car entering a fast corner, keep your position but don't keep accelerating should the other car move in front. Discretion is the better part of valor.

    Some further tips to avoid incidents:

    - Do not try to force a pass on a slower car, especially on very technical and narrow pieces of track like the beginning of the Nordschleife. Wait for a straight and pass.

    - In the same vein, if you are being approached by a clearly faster car, give them space to pass. Otherwise you are very likely to both end up in the ditch, ruining your own race as well.

    - Do not constantly block. In F1, cars are allowed to make one move across the track to block and must remain in that position while the trailing car either passes or fails on the original line.

    - Don't race in rooms of 12-16 people doing a 2 lap race if you want clean races. The short length of the race and high amount of cars on track will make everyone very aggressive to make up as much ground as possible, a nightmare for clean racing. A nice 4-6 lap race with 6-12 people is much more satisfying and easygoing.

    - Let the race develop in the first lap. Drivers of different skill and cars of different speed will naturally settle into a position, don't be too aggressive in this stage of the race.

    - If you do spin out, don't rush to get back on track. Use the minimap to determine if any cars are fast approaching. Think: getting back onto a highway after stopping on the shoulder. Which also leads to...

    - Don't assume you're a ghost or the ghost in front of you will remain one. They can change at the last second and you'll both spin out.

    - Unfortunately, a lot of NA rooms are full of people who think they're right all the time, and will tell you so in their redneck accent using profanity (I'm American myself and have no shame admitting we have this stereotype for a reason). If this seems to be a common occurrence to you as well, join a European server and make some new friends.

    - Similarly, don't go around making accusations constantly over small bumps, it just makes others lose trust in you and you might even end up getting kicked yourself. Racing is not an exact science. After everything you can do to avoid accidents, you can and still will have them. Live and let live.

    And most importantly...

    Winning isn't everything. A clean 2nd place is much more satisfying than winning but having the guilt of taking someone out. Remember, there is no stat tracking in GT5, so its all about having fun.

    By following these simple guidelines you can play both fairly and frustration free.




  15. I dont know why you guys dont like the volvo so much.  That car kicked ass.   I know it looks a bit daft being an estate,  but IT KICKED ASS.   

    I just hope its as good as it was in real life.   The saloon version was also good,  but I really want the estate just for the comedy value.  

    I actaully asked for this car a while back,  I doubt CM put it in there just for me,  but CM this is one thing that I really like,   SO............BIG THANKS to CM for the volvo.    

    I want it now.   Im like Eric Cartman waiting for the nintendo Wii,  LOL
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