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[UnderclassGDfan]

On 2/20/2020 at 8:42 PM, ApexAzimuth said:

Regardless of whether the next championship starts before or after Flatout comes out, I won't pick R5 or Group B (4WD) since it feels like every other club does both those classes only.   I'm considering maybe RallyGT, Group B (RWD), or 2000cc.  🤷‍♂️

Rally GT or Group B (RWD) would be really cool. Would pick the BMW M2 Competition for the first and the Porsche 911 SC RS for the latter. Or even the Manta 400...the Manta always reminds me of this old german movie:

🤣

 

[Dytut]

On 2/26/2020 at 12:18 AM, UnderclassGDfan said:

Rally GT or Group B (RWD) would be really cool. Would pick the BMW M2 Competition for the first and the Porsche 911 SC RS for the latter. Or even the Manta 400...the Manta always reminds me of this old german movie:

🤣

 

Some group B RWD would be incredibly fun. And scary!

[SkyRex]

Congrats to all,

@ApexAzimuth @Janneman60 @UnderclassGDfan make your choices, congrats for the podium.

Judging by the date, I'm inclined to say we hold the League until the FlatOut Pack comes out, with two new Subarus and one new Location available. So make your choices as if that DLC is included. You've got time until release day.

[UnderclassGDfan]

@SkyRex Sooooo, since it's pretty much confirmed that we can only have 12 Events in a championship even after the 13th location released, do we kick one old rally out?

If so: The most logic one would be Wales i think, because they are probably pretty similar, but I love woods and gravel...
My vote goes to kicking out Spain, because it's my least favourite.
I could also say Germany, but it's my home rally, so yeah...
It's bad enough not having a F1 GP this year again, don't take my rally away! 😟

I make my choice, when the calendar and car class is chosen.
We probably get most entries in the championship, if one of the two new cars are available, just saying.
Personally I would prefer Rally GT or Group B RWD, because H3 RWD last time really got me into RWD rallying.

Just another idea: Maybe we should try a new rule by excluding cars from the class we choose and hope everybody will except that.
So maybe 2000cc, but C4 Rally and 07' Focus Rally are not allowed?
Or similar choices in other classes with OP cars.

 

Yes, it's 2am here and I cannot sleep and I am bored 😅

[ApexAzimuth]

@SkyRex
Since my first car was a first generation Subaru Legacy turbo, I'm gonna wanna drive the Legacy in the next championship.  Since we don't know what class the Legacy will be in (though I suspect Group A),  I'd prefer to wait until we know what class it's in.

Thanks again for hosting these championships!  These really invigorate my excitement for rallying.

Edited March 3, 2020 by ApexAzimuth

[SkyRex]

On 3/3/2020 at 2:01 AM, UnderclassGDfan said:

@SkyRex Sooooo, since it's pretty much confirmed that we can only have 12 Events in a championship even after the 13th location released, do we kick one old rally out?

If so: The most logic one would be Wales i think, because they are probably pretty similar, but I love woods and gravel...
My vote goes to kicking out Spain, because it's my least favourite.
I could also say Germany, but it's my home rally, so yeah...
It's bad enough not having a F1 GP this year again, don't take my rally away! 😟

I make my choice, when the calendar and car class is chosen.
We probably get most entries in the championship, if one of the two new cars are available, just saying.
Personally I would prefer Rally GT or Group B RWD, because H3 RWD last time really got me into RWD rallying.

Just another idea: Maybe we should try a new rule by excluding cars from the class we choose and hope everybody will except that.
So maybe 2000cc, but C4 Rally and 07' Focus Rally are not allowed?
Or similar choices in other classes with OP cars.

 

Yes, it's 2am here and I cannot sleep and I am bored 😅

Yeah I read about the 12 Rally Limit as well...
Even though it is also my home rally as well, I would actually vote to kick out Germany. It's my least favorite to drive. I like the real event, but more for the vineyard sections, Panzerplatte is quite uninspiring to drive and to look at imho.
In any case, I'd say the 6 new DR2 locations are safely in (including Spain), because they have the greatest visuals. Puddles mirror and sprinkle, many daylight and weather options and so on. Not so for the 6 DLC ones, some lack in visual finesse like the puddles, some in weather.

Going through them by what they add in variety:
Monte Carlo: pretty nicely remastered with those Ice patches and clearer visuals. Guess nobody would question keeping it.
Sweden: Only snow event. Therefor safe in my book as well.

Wales: Nice driving, excellent new wet physics and mud. But lacking visuals (puddles) and variety in weather.
Finland: Only one of it's kind, with highway-wide roads and gazillion jumps. And much better flight physics than DR1. Though some fog in clear weather. And I'm no good in driving it.
Greece: Technical Gravel with narrow roads and tight sections as well as fast ones. Middle Ground between Argentina and Australia.
Germany: dusty tarmac and concrete. Straights into edges into straights again. Hinkelsteins are main challenge, overall quite easy. I'd kick it out.

I'd say the vote is in the last 4. Anyone with an opinion please voice it.

P.S.  The calendar has already been picked by @Janneman60 to be "Northbound", just so everybody knows.

[Freddygore]

I do not think putt german rally out is a good option cause we ll don t have enough tarmac rally at the end, i d prefere take off new zealand , sorry for my poor english !!

[Janneman60]

So now the question seems, who decides which rally drops out. Is it @SkyRex because after all it is his club. Is it me because I choose the rally order. Or do we have a poll????

[Dytut]

I'd prefer rotating gravel events, we have so few tarmac rallies that It'd be a shame to remove one. 

[SkyRex]

Made a poll.
Had to remove the old one, Cockpit view is definitely enforced now going forward.

[UnderclassGDfan]

Great idea, 3rd place decides wich rally gets kicked out in the next championship (not only because that would be me now 😜).
Makes it more worthy, to get on the podium. The decision has more weight than deciding the time/weather in the very first stage only.
The only rule about that should be, it can't be kicked the same rally again in the following championship.

[Freddygore]

6 minutes ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

Great idea, 3rd place decides wich rally gets kicked out in the next championship (not only because that would be me now 😜).
Makes it more worthy, to get on the podium. The decision has more weight than deciding the time/weather in the very first stage only.
The only rule about that should be, it can't be kicked the same rally again in the following championship.

So what s your decision ? Lol

[UnderclassGDfan]

7 minutes ago, Freddygore said:

So what s your decision ? Lol

If the vote for "3rd place decides" wins, I choose Finland for the kick.

I read good arguments not kicking one of the 6 base game rallies + all players can compete in these.
Also the argument only having 2(3) tarmac rallies is also valid.
Monaco, Sweden and Greece are save, because they are quite unique.

So my decision would be between Wales and Finland.
Both have technical/graphical problems unfortunately and less time/weather-options.
Finland had quite big "discussions" here on the forum, but Wales would be the obvious choice.

I prefer Wales. More technical and looks better.

[ApexAzimuth]

I'd have to agree with @SkyRex about Germany for the same reasons.   We don't know what the Scotland stages will play like, so it's not really fair to put Wales on the cutting block just because it's on the same landmass.  Wales is such an international icon of rally.  In terms of personality, there's nothing even similar to Finland, so I would definitely hate to see it go.  Dirt Rally 2.0's simulation is pretty on-point except in the tarmac department, so if any stages have to go, I'd vote for the Tarmac ones.

[SkyRex]

So has any opinion changed now that weve seen some of the new Location in the Video series? 

visually it does look a lot like wales, but technically it seems to be quite unique. 

if the Status quo stays the same, the 3rd place will get to pick the dropout rally in the future. Although id like to enforce, that only dlc Locations can be kicked. 

[UnderclassGDfan]

11 minutes ago, SkyRex said:

So has any opinion changed now that weve seen some of the new Location in the Video series?

Nope, still Finland.

11 minutes ago, SkyRex said:

visually it does look a lot like wales, but technically it seems to be quite unique.

Looks like a mix between Wales and Poland.
Slightly horrified, to be honest.
I see me wrecking in the trees quite early.

13 minutes ago, SkyRex said:

Although id like to enforce, that only dlc Locations can be kicked. 

I'm against it.
I know your concerns about kicking a base game location, but this limits the possibilities too much.
But not kicking the same location twice in a row would be a good rule.

But it's your club, so just my opinion.

[Janneman60]

Maybe I missed something, but I don't see the reason why only dlc locations to be kicked??

[ApexAzimuth]

I'd hate to see Finland get the boot for the next championship as there's nothing like it, but I'll support however @SkyRex chooses to decide.

I think we're fairly confident that the Legacy will fall under Group A, so if that holds true, I say we go Group A for next round.

[SkyRex]

So, I have edited the OP, changed the reward for 3rd place and inserted the new calendars like here:

In the World Rally Option, Scotland will now serve as the stand-in for Chile.

 

Also, all choices have been made for the next season and I will get to setting the Season up soon. If I can manage it until then, I'll set the start to be right at coming midnight. Otherwise Saturday Noon.

NEXT SEASON UPCOMING:

Class: Group A

Calendar: Northbound

Excluded Rally: Finland

 

EDIT: ALL HAS BEEN SET UP. IT BEGINS AT MIDNIGHT !

Edited March 24, 2020 by SkyRex

[Janneman60]

Let's see if I can drive. A lot of people are at home or sort of working at home and have lots of time, but I have to work more as usual (making medical equipment).

[UnderclassGDfan]

20 minutes ago, Janneman60 said:

Let's see if I can drive. A lot of people are at home or sort of working at home and have lots of time, but I have to work more as usual (making medical equipment).

So you have an important job in these days.

[Janneman60]

34 minutes ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

So you have an important job in these days.

Maybe... but the most important job we have all, keep distance, don't walk around when sick. Better safe than sorry.

[UnderclassGDfan]

1 hour ago, Janneman60 said:

Maybe... but the most important job we have all, keep distance, don't walk around when sick. Better safe than sorry.

I do. I watch every day the update of the Robert Koch Institute and stay at home, accept for 2 days per week were I go to supermarket while keeping distance to everyone. Didn't saw my mum in 2 weeks, she's 55, so I play save.

I never played videogames this much since...I don't know...15 years!?
Just hope it doesn't get too boring too soon 😄 

I recently started Red Dead Redemption 2 (have it since release, but didn't had the time to play the story) and bought Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Doom: Eternal.
But still play alot of DR 2.0, so I can't wait to do the DRChampionship!

[Freddygore]

Same here i m in quarantine cause i have the covid 19, still waiting the drc championship. Fuckin love scotland !!! Good job codies !!! Take care everybody ! And see you soon !

[Evilsmurf]

Quick question, very rusty these days. I'm assuming the only safe place to quit the game is in the service parks? leaving after a stage will cause a disqualification?

Marathon of an event, having to get used to hards. Must still be over driving them as they are still done after 3 stages 

[HoksuHoo]

1 minute ago, Evilsmurf said:

Quick question, very rusty these days. I'm assuming the only safe place to quit the game is in the service parks? leaving after a stage will cause a disqualification?

Marathon of an event, having to get used to hards. Must still be over driving them as they are still done after 3 stages 

You can always quit at end of a stage, before proceeding to the next stage. Select the "quit to main menu" option. DO NOT pick any option that includes the word "retire", that means event over and DNF

[Janneman60]

If you quit after a stage and not on service you probably get a very beaten car at restart, some stupid bug.

Get used to hards??? I did the 3 stages to service on softs, no problem.

My problem was a flat tyre on ss1 😎

[Dytut]

I proclaim this seasons name to be... "The Legacy of Corona". 

Damn that Legacy is fun to drive 🙂 Had a few small spins on the way, but nothing major except on SS6 where I lost focus and went off into the underbrush and had to reverse out, and then I almost flipped the car just at the finish line. 

[gleylancer571]

 

too bad you only allow the cockpit camera

[Evilsmurf]

12 hours ago, Janneman60 said:

If you quit after a stage and not on service you probably get a very beaten car at restart, some stupid bug.

Get used to hards??? I did the 3 stages to service on softs, no problem.

My problem was a flat tyre on ss1 😎

I'll need to try a smoother driving approach. I ran hards for both long legs of the rally and they were absolutely done by the time I got to both services. I also find the softs puncture to easily when I hit the edges of the stage. I do that a lot 🤣 

[Dytut]

2 hours ago, Evilsmurf said:

I'll need to try a smoother driving approach. I ran hards for both long legs of the rally and they were absolutely done by the time I got to both services. I also find the softs puncture to easily when I hit the edges of the stage. I do that a lot 🤣 

I ran softs, they held up quite well. And I was on the edges quite a bit. 

[SkyRex]

2 hours ago, gleylancer571 said:

 

too bad you only allow the cockpit camera

There was a long running poll about it. Forcing it won by about two thirds against one third. So the majority of drivers here, me included, appreciate it to level the playing field. Everyone's to judge the cars movement with the same limitations of the bodywork being in the way

[ApexAzimuth]

My first car was a first generation Legacy sport, and they nailed the feeling of the Legacy.  The sound of the engine and turbo, the turbo lag, and the interior of it in VR actually gives me a strange nostalgia.   Granted this thing drives like my Legacy if it were brand new and perfectly tuned, but the feeling is real.  Gave me chills up my spine.

[SkyRex]

... that was intense!
I was like, yeah New Zealand as a start, nice flowing turns, good Rally to start the Season...
Then of course I cracked the windscreen on S2, but no big deal, car was fine. Got a table 3rd position, about 10 secs behind @Dytut  thinking about closing the gap with some more risk.

Then in Stage 4, not even halfway into it, I confidently ignored a "don't cut" and hit a rock head on. Radiator light on. More than 2.5 long stages to go... That turned south quickly. Suddenly it felt like one of the new McRae Scenarios. Finish without terminal damage and in the Top 10. I didn't wanna get a retired right at the season opening, so I pushed on.
At the finish of S4 the engine light was on and the radiator steamed some smoke into the sky. da mn. okay, calm, keep it together.
S5 and S6 I drove as gentle to the engine as possible while still going as fast as possible, I wanted to keep my position, but @Janneman60 creeped ever closer after each stage.
Short shifting all the way, I tried to make the shifting lights in the Evo's cockpit not come on at all, not even the first green one, already shifitng up at about 5000 rpm.
You would be surprised by how many hairpins in NZ you can drift in 3rd gear! Thankfully the Evo has no noticable Turbo lag in the lower revs.
At the end of S5 the engine revs became spasmic. Shortly after start of S6 it sounded very fissy as well, very ill. I though like, any moment now, please keep it together, just 5 more kilometers, please.

It pulled through. Service park I fixed the engine, and made quick fixes to the most important parts, anything I had time for. Who needs new lights? Or a repaired body shell? And who doesn't like the character of a slightly bend wheel geometry. At least the wreck was running cool and revving high again.

S7 I pulled almost the same pace as before the incident. And it all payed of, still on Pos 3rd as we speak, still about 10 sec distance to 4th (down from a minute).

I think I never had such a stressful Rally in our League before.

[Snaky115]

I wrecked Skyrex's 3rd position immediately after he posted his message. 

The joy of switching from Chase cam to Cockpit dash, and the resulting "Wait.. I CANNOT SEE THE BRAKING MARK-" *Goes off the road 4 times, very slowly* Especially in the wet.

 

Ah well, I saw no Fords, so I drove a Ford, simple. Had quite the damage from bumping the edges on the fast bits though - had Wheel Geometry worse than the McRae Legacy scenario. o_o

 

Edit: *curses in 'not podium finish' and 'racenet servers'*

Edited March 28, 2020 by Snaky115

[UnderclassGDfan]

First of all: 😞

The very first two sectors were green so I had a good pace, but then in the 3rd sector I overshoot a square left, but didn't hit anything.
Lost 1-2 seconds and started to push more to get my time back.

In the 4th sector I misjudged a very fast right-left-right-combination and basically destroyed the car including a front-right-puncture (without having a spare).
Rally was over.

But I made it to the finish, lost around 46 seconds.
Did the 2nd stage and fell off the very first corner because of huge understeer due to the puncture. Got 27 seconds time penalty.
At the end around 2 mins 25 seconds lost.

Stage 3 was just lol. Engine was that bad, it stalled before I could start. And again after restarting it.
Engine, radiator, turbo, transmission, chassis and wheel geometry were very badly damaged.

And lights.

Still made it to the finish. 3 mins 46 seconds lost.

In service area it was clear, I couldn't push at least in the last stages.
Could only quick-repair engine and radiator and still got 45 seconds time penalty.

Car was okish in stages 4-6, but I lost more and more engine and turbo-power.
For stage 7 I could repair engine (again), radiator (again) and turbo.
But transmission and wheel geometry not, and the last one made the car slidy.

Was close to win the stage regardless, but oh well.

 

Horrible start into the championship.

[Evilsmurf]

Was hoping for a top 10 finish. Not put a prolonged amount of time into DiRT  in well over a year so happy with 11th that I'm currently in. Lets see if that's were I end up 🤣

Going try and commit to the whole season and hopefully improve as the season continues.

[ApexAzimuth]

I honestly didn't expect to do that well in Group A.  RWD seems to be where my strength is but maybe some of that throttle discipline is helping my AWD game.  I still feel like I'm a mere student of the four wheels.

SS1-SS3 went very well.  I seem to manage understeer in wet conditions pretty well, despite understeer being my kryptonite. I was just behind Yabby through the first leg. The shock of going from worn tires on mud to fresh tires on dry gravel really jarred me in SS4 though, and I struggled to keep up with Yabby after losing a bit of confidence from biting the inside walls of a few corners, underestimating my grip.  Still did decently on SS4-SS6.  Then I once again got jarred by the sudden grip in SS7, and rolled the car by mounting the inside of a corner, again underestimating my grip.  Managed to recover though SS7 was my weakest time overall by far.

I'm really enjoying the Legacy, curious how well it competes with the Delta overall.  Time will tell!

[Dytut]

Had a fun time with the Legacy in Argentina, which is an event I rarely enjoy driving. Had three small spins, and on one I managed to get stuck and had to reset, so my times will be mediocre at best. But I do enjoy driving that Legacy, it's feels so.... raw! Would need to upgrade to a pedal set that has a clutch to get the most out of it though, the turbo spoolup takes aaaaaaaages.

[Janneman60]

I lost out on @Dytut on ss1 and ss2 were I did a small spin. After that a great fight back and after ss5 I grabbed the lead by a few seconds. On ss6 Dytut made a mistake and I got a much bigger margin. For now fastest but that will change for sure.

[Evilsmurf]

Well, the moral of that story is, don't drink and drive kids...

Car was a basket case after the first 2 stages, then I threw it in a gully on stage 4.

[Snaky115]

I couldn't see my normal braking point from inside, so that was a nice 200 kp/h terminal. Oops.

[UnderclassGDfan]

Meh.
On SS1 I crashed against a pillar of a bridge and managed to get completely sideways in the middle of the bridge 🤣
Costed me around 15 seconds.

I did many small mistakes, was often out of rythm and touched the stones and walls pretty often.
In SS7 I almost terminated the car by crashing against the beginning of a small stonewall at high speed, but luckily got away with it.

Well, was better then New Zealand at least, I guess 😅
 

[somethingthing]

The legacy felt very good in Argentina 🙂

[Loeinc]

After a veeeeery fast dnf in newzealand where i struggled mightily with the deltas understeer.. (I managed to fix it by upping the breakpressure so my leftfoodbreaking works more sensitive) I was allright with my progress in argentina and didnt make too many errors there..

BUT! Somehow my suspension failed me in ss5!

I think it must have been beatup through the earlier stages so when I slipped of the road onto the grassy area somewhere at the beginning of the stage.. something must have been snapped. Because after this little expedition the car did not want to turn one bit and after a few more 100 meters i was DNF‘ed by suspension failure.

Argentina really IS hard on the suspension it seems 😂

 

Anyways.. came not even close matching the frontrunners pace.

..someday 😬 

[SkyRex]

Hmm, failed to Download Clubs. if this persists I might not be able to compete in argentina... Why are the Servers in mayhem??

[UnderclassGDfan]

16 minutes ago, SkyRex said:

Hmm, failed to Download Clubs. if this persists I might not be able to compete in argentina... Why are the Servers in mayhem??

They start to get wonky everyday evening CET now.
If you already get the download club failed message, it will get tricky, even if you manage to start them.
Hope for the best.

Yabby is extremely fast now!
Last championship he was constantly in the mid-field pack and now he dominates everything 😮 

[Evilsmurf]

15 hours ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

Yabby is extremely fast now!
Last championship he was constantly in the mid-field pack and now he dominates everything 😮 

Illegal Turbo? 🤣

[Snaky115]

What a mysterious front puncture right before the bumpy fast finish of Stage 4... Damn, did not wanna lose my spare before the wet stages started. 😕 Turned out well in the end, besides the 720 spin before i realized the punctured tyre was fully gone.

 

Tyre wear seems nasty though, even mediums got 'Worn' in 4-5-6.

[Dytut]

Mostly clean run through Australia while trying to get a feel for my new pedal set (T3PA-PRO). Had one spin at the start of the first rainy stage where I misjudged the grip a bit, but just maybe 7-8 seconds lost from it and no damage. Felt like the softs were wearing out quickly, only had good grip on the first stage after service then it was glidey glidey time. Mediums would probably have been a better choice.