YoMrWhite Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Another weak performance in the second loop. A strange reset after apparently touching something in SS4, later in the stage I hit a tree and punctured. Radiator und engine damage made SS5 and SS6 a frustrating experience. And in SS7 after a hairpin I got stuck behind a signpost for a few seconds. Oh my... Maybe it was just not enough sleep, but too much coffee and CNN in the last days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I had a spin early in ss1, the lost time was only a few seconds, but somehow the car got a cracked radiator. Ss2 en 3 the engine lost power because of that. After service, were the crew repaired the most important things, I was back to normal speed. No drama in the other stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Worst run ever in Sotland. Had a too loose setup for leg 1, so had no control at speed. Hit some stuff on the side at speed, lots of rolls and a puncture on SS2. Adjusted the setup for leg 2, and it felt quite good. But that meant I was faster, and the RS200 is temperamental at best. Messed up the front in some places, so spun and wrecked the engine. Meh. On a good note, finally felt like the general setup idea started to work for me, so hope to use it as a base setup for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 9:48 PM, Dytut said: Worst run ever in Sotland. Same here. First 3 stages were okayish, but quite slow. I just don't have enough track knowledge in Scotland. Anyway, in SS4 - today, the other stages I did two days ago, I think - I felt like driving on ice, crashing twice and getting a puncture. The banged up Mini barely made it to the next service. Quick fixed some parts, then... Look for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 A decent rally. The first stint I was a bit faster as @Dytut but the 2e and 3e stint he didn't drive (yet) so I lost my reference. W'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 21 hours ago, Janneman60 said: A decent rally. The first stint I was a bit faster as @Dytut but the 2e and 3e stint he didn't drive (yet) so I lost my reference. W'll see... Yeah, you kept on. I wasn't comfortable at all in the RS200. Also max unluck with two rather small touches messing up my engine on leg 1, and on leg 2 a really small shunt gave me a rear left puncture. No matter, couldn't keep pace with you anyway. Just having a really hard time finding a balance between controllability and grip with the RS200, seems like I just change the way it wants to kill me however I set it up 😛 So deceptive, it just feels really good to drive then it snaps around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 After a solid first three stages, I picked up a puncture early on in SS4. In SS5 I tried to make up some ground and got a second puncture. With half of the stage and the next one to go until service and no second spare, I decided to give up and spare me another 10 or 12 minutes of frustration. 🐀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 "Try to make up some ground'" 😀 that is what we all want to do after a mistake, but in 99,9% it just means more trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Finally found the sweet spot for the RS200, where it was predictable and allowed me to push a bit. SS1-2 in australia were fun and decently fast, then on SS3 I was so pleased that I tried to push a weeeee bit too much and cut a corner... smashed something and punctured. Oh well, at least it was a pure driver error this time 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 18 hours ago, Janneman60 said: "Try to make up some ground'" 😀 that is what we all want to do after a mistake, but in 99,9% it just means more trouble. Wise words, my friend. But sometimes, you just have to try, because I felt quite comfortable in Argentina. Well, mostly... Australia was as usual not very good. Crash, puncture, crash, puncture, retired. In anything faster than a Lancia Fulvia I'm going to crash there. Must be some kind of eternal law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderclassGDfan Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I think I reached my skill limit with this car. I'm just not capable of controlling this car for more than 4-5 sectors in a row seriously 😄 Did now 6 rallies and not a single stage in all these rallies was without a big mistake or I was driving slowly with a broken engine/puncture. Australia was just completely ridiculous again. SS1 was okish, just small mistakes, but I was waaaaaay too cautious, I even braked on straights sometimes because I felt I lose control. On SS2 I punched on the gas right before the bridge after the first corner and landed in the ditch on the left side of the bridge. Was really embarrassing. 2 or 3 sectors later I crashed into a fence on a very fast 5 left. Got damage on pretty much everything + puncture on the rear. Barely made it to the service, could only quick repair engine and radiator and still got 30 seconds on top, lulz. SS4-6 were better, still made mistakes, but I was capable of controlling the car...probably because I had much less power available. SS7 was by far the best stage so far, but the car was still damaged on several parts (transmission and turbo had medium damage), but at least I could finish a stage without any noticable mistake and with GREEN at the end 😄 I also had a absolutely fantastic experience in Argentina on SS5 on a uphill stage. At least for the first 5 sectors. I gained 20 seconds on the current leader (I believe it was @Janneman60 ) before I crashed hard at the end of a long straight. I'm also quite impressed of @somethingthing's performance, he outclasses us all by quite much, too bad @Snoopy43 isn't competing regularly at the moment, could be an interesting battle. Don't see anyone of us can keep up with that pace. I believe I couldn't even beat him in a Delta 😄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) This was not a very good rally. Already had a very heavy crash halfway ss1, landed on the roof so got a penalty as bonus. Next 2 stages were better but not very fast with the damage. To my surprise I could fix almost anything at the service. The second stint was better. @Dytut seemed to have lost time at ss3 and we were only seconds apart. This was a nice battle, in the end he was a bit quicker. 3e for now. These bumpy stages are not what the Metro likes. The short wheelbase makes it a difficult car on the bumps and so the confidence to go flatout is never there. Edited November 17, 2020 by Janneman60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 And there was already rally Sweden. Found a good setup. But was a bit to calm first stage. Then it went faster. Stages 2-6 were good. The came ss7. Halfway I made a stupid mistake and had a very heavy crash at full speed. Offcourse a flat tire and a reset. The car drove like a crab. So decided to change the tire... The car still drove like a crab, steering a lot to the left to go straight. At least I made it 😨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I tried to tackle Finland as a pure endurance event. The strategy didn't work out too well in the first two stages - one spin and a puncture. But in the long second loop things got better. The medium tires worked quite well, I slowed down more than usual before jumps and corners and had only one or two spins in the next four stages. After SS6, I was obviously a little bit too relieved and picked up another puncture, but that didn't cost too much. Now I'm interested to see how you guys fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Seeing the first results come in, I was obviously too conservative in my approach. On the other hand, more risk might have resulted in even more crashes and punctures... What tires did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I used softs. I always use softs, in my opinion the time softs last is the same as the time mediums last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Yeah, after some testing on endurance events softs work better than mediums even for 12xlong stage events. My Finland was weird but decent. Almost got a good setup, but not quite. Couldn't find what caused it, but some impacts just bottomed out the car. So had to go cautious. On the flip side, just had one small overshoot on SS6 costing me about 10s as any major trouble for the whole run, so panned out OK in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Okay, then the medium tires may be to blame for a part of my deficit. Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, YoMrWhite said: Okay, then the medium tires may be to blame for a part of my deficit. Good to know. The time I won on you in a stage was, when you used mediums from ss3 on, about the same as in the first 2 stages. Maybe for Finland the tire doesn't have such a big impact, Finland is more about setting the car good before you jump into the next corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingthing Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Janneman60 said: The time I won on you in a stage was, when you used mediums from ss3 on, about the same as in the first 2 stages. Maybe for Finland the tire doesn't have such a big impact, Finland is more about setting the car good before you jump into the next corner. Yeah, its just about following/aim for the ditches pretty much. Also not dying but thats step 2 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, somethingthing said: Yeah, its just about following/aim for the ditches pretty much. Also not dying but thats step 2 🙂 But touching the ditches is the little death that leads to the big one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Janneman60 said: The time I won on you in a stage was, when you used mediums from ss3 on, about the same as in the first 2 stages. Maybe for Finland the tire doesn't have such a big impact, Finland is more about setting the car good before you jump into the next corner. I had a spin in SS1 and a puncture after 2 sectors in SS2, so I would have been a lot closer. From SS3 on, I used mediums and had some clean stages, but still lost a lot of time. So I think the tire makes a difference, although I have to admit I was quite cautious, maybe too much. And of course I'm never really fast in Finland. It's better than it was in DR1, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderclassGDfan Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 11:40 AM, Janneman60 said: I used softs. I always use softs, in my opinion the time softs last is the same as the time mediums last. 20 hours ago, Dytut said: Yeah, after some testing on endurance events softs work better than mediums even for 12xlong stage events. I'm not sure about that, guys. I used softs all the way and from SS5 onwards I got huge problems with grip loss. 12 long stages in a row on softs? I don't know about that... I'm not sure, if the tyres just have 3 levels of grip (new, used, dead) and never get worse after the third level, but even if that is the case, I'm not sure if I would have been not faster with mediums actually. I struggled getting around corners, that were more than just a 6 or 5. The car just slided to the outside mid-corner and I had to almost come to a full stop not leaving the track, wich also happened 2 or 3 times. But maybe I just could not adjust my driving to the grip loss, I don't know really. All in all this was my best rally this championship so far in terms of mistakes and pace. Still did some mistakes, but just small ones. But everytime I did a mistake I lost a bit confidence in the car and the sectors coming up were slower. This resulted most of the time in sectors switching from green to red to green to red again. From SS5 onwards I struggled hard with the car, because it felt I was driving on ice, additionally to the car bottom out at every bigger jump getting damage and jumping around like a kangaroo 😄 I also tried the RS200 in australia just out of curiosity, if I can handle that better. Was a long time since I used it and immidiately was able to use it without making save brakes all the time 😄 Still a Group B-car and crashed at the end, though 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, UnderclassGDfan said: I'm not sure about that, guys. I used softs all the way and from SS5 onwards I got huge problems with grip loss. 12 long stages in a row on softs? I don't know about that... I'm not sure, if the tyres just have 3 levels of grip (new, used, dead) and never get worse after the third level, but even if that is the case, I'm not sure if I would have been not faster with mediums actually. I struggled getting around corners, that were more than just a 6 or 5. The car just slided to the outside mid-corner and I had to almost come to a full stop not leaving the track, wich also happened 2 or 3 times. But maybe I just could not adjust my driving to the grip loss, I don't know really. To compare you should do the same srages with mediums. In fact you assume the mediums last longer, as far as I tested my opinion is they don't. Softs start to downgrade after 2 long stages, so do mediums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderclassGDfan Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, Janneman60 said: To compare you should do the same srages with mediums. In fact you assume the mediums last longer, as far as I tested my opinion is they don't. Softs start to downgrade after 2 long stages, so do mediums. That doesn't make sense. Why then mediums (and hards) even exist, if they have less grip from the beginning, but don't last longer? There is even a graphic showing that they last longer, if you choose them. I don't say you're wrong, maybe the difference between the tyres is so small, that it doesn't make much sense to use the mediums, but maybe you are just more capable of compensating the loss in grip when it starts to happen. I also don't know how big the difference is between dead softs and new/used mediums. I could do SS3 to SS7 again on mediums, but I doubt I get a usable result, because my performance changes quite often and I would need the same stage surfaces because my performance is much worse on heavy degradation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, UnderclassGDfan said: That doesn't make sense. Why then mediums (and hards) even exist, Exactly the question 😀 You can argue about mediums but the hard tire is pointless anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingthing Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I started of with 2 trips out in the forest and it gave me resets. It was just at the start of stage 1, in about the same distance that the shakedown is 😄 Luckily I didnt hit any trees so it was not much damage to the car. Miraculously I wasnt the only one that had issues and managed to catch up but it was a very close one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderclassGDfan Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Janneman60 said: You can argue about mediums but the hard tire is pointless anyway. Hm, on a 12 stage event without any service areas with every stage being a long stage? I'm in a club were that is the case, using H3 RWDs. I used hards in all rallies so far. Having dead tyres with RWD cars isn't much fun. I tested now mediums. Replicated everything as close as possible and...I was much faster. I was 14 seconds faster on SS7 alone. The problem is: I was also much faster on the first two stages with new mediums against new softs, wich is strange. I was definitely more confident and was driving the car more on the limit, so I would probably need to do the same again on softs, too. But I just can't anymore, it's too exhausting driving that car 😄 I was 4 seconds in SS3, 9 seconds in SS4, 24 seconds in SS5, 4 seconds in SS6 and 14 seconds in SS7 faster. But I had always medium deg I believe, but at least 1 or 2 of them were heavy deg in the club run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaky115 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 The Soft vs Medium debate is an odd one. IIRC something happened pre-release that forced them to make softs last a bit longer, but it's been a very long while since i've kept the debate in my mind. In my testing, the brutal understeer of old Softs kicks in around the 3 long stage marker, while mediums were only 1.5 long stages stronger, sometimes. It does seem to vary with gravel surface or stage degradation. I think i am more confident in saying its 3.5 longs for Softs/Tarmac, and like, 5 to 5.5 longs on Mediums/Tarmac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Did leg 1 of NZ, went OK except overpushing a few times so had at least one off per stage. Then thought I'd make use of the sun today, went out climbing, came home, decided to vacuum since I dragged a lot of dirt inside. When I vacuumed around the wheel I got a sudden flash from static electricity, and then it wouldn't work.... So I'll try to order a new PSU for it, but will probably not be able to drive for a little while. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingthing Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 19 hours ago, Dytut said: Did leg 1 of NZ, went OK except overpushing a few times so had at least one off per stage. Then thought I'd make use of the sun today, went out climbing, came home, decided to vacuum since I dragged a lot of dirt inside. When I vacuumed around the wheel I got a sudden flash from static electricity, and then it wouldn't work.... So I'll try to order a new PSU for it, but will probably not be able to drive for a little while. Beklagar sorgen! 😞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderclassGDfan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Oh no...it was really a close battle between 2nd, 3rd and 4th so far 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Well, this started bad. A puncture already in the 2e sector. At a place I know very well not to cut.... The rest of the rally was good but not relevant anymore? Untill now I am the only finisher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingthing Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 For each turn i was hoping that would be the last. Apparently i wasnt the only one feeling that way because every now and then a couple of participants dropped out and in the end we were 3 left 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Ordered a new T300 with sparco wheel today. Not what I wanted to do, but if I get the old one running again I can always sell it to recover a bit of the cost. Hope to be back in action in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 New Zealand was over very quickly. Didn't have much time to spare, so I rushed in and of course that didn't work. Punctured the left rear tire after only two sectors. Tried to go on, crashed and punctured the right front tire. With two and a half stages to go and only one spare, I did the sensible thing and retired. Need more spares, need more spare time. Spare, Shmare, Nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Again a bad rally with a puncture in ss2. And a heavy crash in ss7 🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somethingthing Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 looks like we are like 3 left doing this club now? 😞 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denim398 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 A miracle happened in Greece. I didn't have crashes or punctures. Had one reset and one spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 New replacement T300 with sparco rim has arrived! I'm back in the fight! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Greece was quite embarrassing. I started quick, then began to lose time and started to take more risks - the result was predictable. Germany started bad, with a false start, although I thought the car was actually moving backwards at the line. Is that even possible? Anyway, I was so baffled I waited a few more seconds before I got going. The rest of SS1 was okay, then there were spins in SS2 and SS3 and some minor mistakes, but nothing too serious, until a freakish accident in SS6, where I hit - a pole maybe? I don't really know. It cost a few seconds for the crash and 9 seconds reset, as I landed on top of a spectator. So, could have been better, could have been worse. At least I finally finished again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) First leg of germany done. Managed to touch the inside of a corner on SS1 that made the car go up on two wheels, smashed slowly but firmly into a hinkelstein on the outside. Lucky go not get any serious damage. SS2-3 felt fine. Got to the end, but three mistakes that cost a lot of time. SS4 I managed to touch something on the inside and I spun, and on SS6 I was overoptimistic and overshot a fast corner and got stuck on a hinkelstein, SS7 I spun once again from touching something on the inside. But on a good note, all spins were due to me driving badly, so car felt really nice all the way 🙂 Edited November 29, 2020 by Dytut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Germany did bite me 😈 After a decent ss1 I crashed in ss2 losing about 10 seconds. Then I started to do very well winning 2 stages. After ss6 I was second wirh a bit more than 10 seconds behind, the 10 seconds I lost on ss2. Then came ss7. It was good untill I crashed in THE LAST corner. Pointing in the wrong direction I took an extra 15 seconds to make the last 20 meters. Outch, that hurts... now in 3th place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderclassGDfan Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I could kick myself right now in the face, really. After having a good SS1 and okish SS2 (one big mistake, but no crash), I had a terrible SS3 filled with mistakes. But still leading. Had a pretty good SS4 and then came SS5. Everything was fine until the veeeeeeeery long straight close to the end. I lost the car under braking and was jumping towards the crowd. 28 seconds time penalty. But the car was ok, but I just did more and more mistakes in SS6. Was behind @Dytut by 00:00.060. Then SS7. I was giving everything, was leading 0.5s after sector 1, 0.5s behind after sector 2. Then I got nervous and lost the car in a corner, just sliding to the outside and got 24 seconds time penalty. What I didn't knew, I was 0.5s behind @denim398, not @Dytut, so I would have won it, if I had not pushed so hard. FML! 😡😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dytut Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Well I rebutted with a completely abysmal performance in Wales @UnderclassGDfan 😄 About the only good part was that the car actually held up to the end, which I thought it wasn't going to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoMrWhite Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 That has to be the fastest puncture I ever had. First stage, I touched a bank less than 15 seconds in. After that and the tyre change I was completely out of sync, hitting nearly everything in sight. When the car slowly rolled and then got stuck behind an obstacle somewhere in the middle of the stage I took a deep breath and decided to call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderclassGDfan Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 So you guys can do clubs? So it seems I'm the only one who can't play. I get a "failed to download"-message since several hours. Time Trial-leaderboards don't load, too... Hope it works tomorrow, already missed a club run today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The first 2 stages I had a real close fight with @denim398, the difference was only half a second. Then on ss3 I had a spin. Nothing serious, not fast, no banking, didn't hit anything but a flat tire. This must be my most unlucky season ever... The rest was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denim398 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Finished Wales with just one small mistake on I think it was stage 3 . If @Janneman60 wouldn't have had a puncture I couldn't control my nerves like I did now. Love the car and location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janneman60 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Started rally Spain with a real bad setup. The 6R4 was very tricky so I had one or 2 spins in every one of the first 3 stages. Lucky I was not to hit something in those spins. After I changed some things in the setup it was a lot better. Still not the fastest but it was decent. Then @denim398 retired and @Dytut had his own troubles so I finished an unexpected second. Looking back at this season I just regret I didn't drove the Audi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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