An open letter to CODEMASTERS and DIRT players

[dynt 0]

JZStudios said:

dynt said:

BadD0g said:

But if it was done through PMs we wouldn't have all this exciting drama to watch!

Must admit its all getting a bit silly its like a bad telenovela, but it just goes to show sim racing in general generates similar dedication and commitment and passion as like the real thing.

British people know what Telenovelas are? Wow. I mean, I live on the border of Mexicoland so they watch them on lunch breaks, but who in Britain watches them?

There's a new tv show with eva longoria

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4363588/

If you watch it will make sense, :)

[JZStudios 631]

dynt said:

JZStudios said:

dynt said:

BadD0g said:

But if it was done through PMs we wouldn't have all this exciting drama to watch!

Must admit its all getting a bit silly its like a bad telenovela, but it just goes to show sim racing in general generates similar dedication and commitment and passion as like the real thing.

British people know what Telenovelas are? Wow. I mean, I live on the border of Mexicoland so they watch them on lunch breaks, but who in Britain watches them?

There's a new tv show with eva longoria

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4363588/

If you watch it will make sense, :)

Oh. Didn't know that broadcasted there. I don't even think anyone watches it here. Also, No. I'm not going to watch it.

[dgeesi0 305]

expects kakalea to tell me what gheeds had for dinner in next post :D

[JZStudios 631]

dgeesi0 said:

expects kakalea to tell me what gheeds had for dinner in next post :D

I don't know about (presumably) him, but I'm makin Bacon.

[dynt 0]

JZStudios said:

Also, at this point, what even was the original topic? It's all gotten into telemetry, cheating, ip addresses, I mean, it's interesting sure, but what the hell are we even talking about?
P.S. I know porky is a cheater because he doesn't have a full rig, a brilliant PC, or use 900 DOR. So his times should be removed. Is this what were resorting to?

The original post was for all those with out a life, or something similar if memory serves me correctly,

[KevM 44]

I have recently come to realise, everyone needs to stop expecting too much from the Internet.

The same Internet that has just voted to name a newly built $300m Research Vessel -

Boaty  McBoatface

[Kakkela 3]

JZStudios said:

dgeesi0 said:

expects kakalea to tell me what gheeds had for dinner in next post :D

I don't know about (presumably) him, but I'm makin Bacon.

I actually can answer that today....  >:) He told he would be eating some chicken leftovers.

[dynt 0]

Also having watched his videos many many times the only one who I would bet my house on playing it straight is porkhamer.

His youtube vids have been invaluable in becoming competitive.

[Porkhammer 78]

dynt said:

Also having watched his videos many many times the only one who I would bet my house on playing it straight is porkhamer.

His youtube vids have been invaluable in becoming competitive.

Thank you dynt. :smiley: 

[JZStudios 631]

KevM said:

I have recently come to realise, everyone needs to stop expecting too much from the Internet.

The same Internet that has just voted to name a newly built $300m Research Vessel -

Boaty  McBoatface

Wow. yet another loss for the global intelligence of humankind. Hopefully next time they won't let stupid people come up with names, or make a couple of their own names for people to vote on.
Also, the official spongebob squarepants mushroom, in case you didn't know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spongiforma_squarepantsii

[Kakkela 3]

Nobody will get faster by increasing FoV, it's the complete opposite in driving simulators... You would match your FoV to be as close as possible to real life so you can properly see distances. For me it is around 0.1 in game settings (35 in AC and equivalent hFoV in iRacing) 

And your FFB suggestion is idiotic, no way any company could pull that off. There are variation even between same model of wheels. That is most noticeable when you calculate minforce for better simulators. T300RS wheels have had minforce from 4-16%, G27 somewhere between 9-17%, DFGT 0-1% etc.

I don't understand how you are so mad about this stuff even though @gheeD doesn't even use any of the stuff  you criticize and is still one of the fastest guys around. I know what kind of FFB settings etc he uses and it's not overly light or anything.

[Porkhammer 78]

And you're talking out of your behind, Rinus - so I am not even believing a word you say. ;)

[Kakkela 3]

RinusRally said:

Why are you everytime talking about Gheed? Do you have something to tell? Gheed-fetsij or so? It's weird you are defending him every time. He uses 6+ leagues, so I am not even believing a word you say.  ;)

Cause he's the fastest here? I would ofc talk about myself but it's not as fun or proving when I'm just some top50 guy who randomly drives once in a while.

And I don't get whats the fuss about that league bug, you think everybody automatically uses it if it exists? Not everybody uses every possible exploit there is.

[PaloSamo 0]

Jon Tucker is a real life rally driver so I suppose he knows how real life rally car feels and behaves. 

[Porkhammer 78]

Kakkela said:

RinusRally said:

Why are you everytime talking about Gheed? Do you have something to tell? Gheed-fetsij or so? It's weird you are defending him every time. He uses 6+ leagues, so I am not even believing a word you say.  ;)

Cause he's the fastest here? I would ofc talk about myself but it's not as fun or proving when I'm just some top50 guy who randomly drives once in a while.

And I don't get whats the fuss about that league bug, you think everybody automatically uses it if it exists? Not everybody uses every possible exploit there is.

Let him moan. Look in his direction, nod and smile. Win.

[KevM 44]

Its got Bromance written all over it in fairness! lol

[dgeesi0 305]

Kakkela said:

RinusRally said:

Why are you everytime talking about Gheed? Do you have something to tell? Gheed-fetsij or so? It's weird you are defending him every time. He uses 6+ leagues, so I am not even believing a word you say.  ;)

Cause he's the fastest here? I would ofc talk about myself but it's not as fun or proving when I'm just some top50 guy who randomly drives once in a while.

And I don't get whats the fuss about that league bug, you think everybody automatically uses it if it exists? Not everybody uses every possible exploit there is.

he isnt the fastest here but hey ho. dont wanna sound funny but you sound like a lover . why are you defending him or hovering on every reply. im not saying hes dodgy but god damn kiss him already :D

[BadD0g 0]

I think the attitude of  "If you're not playing with 100% realism, you're playing wrong" is what scares people away from sim racing, isn't it? Just because somebody doesn't play exactly they way you think they should doesn't mean they're "cheating" or doing it wrong.

[KevM 44]

I would agree with that.  But let's not get side-tracked...

Theres a love-story to follow!  50 shades of DiRT!  <3 B)

[Kakkela 3]

Wouldn't you defend your good friend?
I think @dynt did the same before he knew the truth.

Pork's steering setup isn't Rinus-Approved  so I'm not throwing his name around much in this conversation. I gave my FFB settings for him too back when we came to conclusion on what was best for G27 but he preferred his own degrees out of old habit.

BadD0g said:

I think the attitude of  "If you're not playing with 100% realism, you're playing wrong" is what scares people away from sim racing, isn't it? Just because somebody doesn't play exactly they way you think they should doesn't mean they're "cheating" or doing it wrong.

I don't think majority of simracers even care if you don't run realistic degrees or gearbox. People here are first ones that have called it "cheating".

One good example is ACs gearbox model, it just works wrong with any current h-shifter (let's it grind gears, in real life you need to really have guts and muscle to  so why would anyone want to force you to use it. Our community had like 1-2 guys using h-shifter on E30 DTM because of that and nobody complained.

RinusRally said:

Porkhammer said:

And you're talking out of your behind, Rinus - so I am not even believing a word you say. ;)

Look this is Gheed. So I am not talking sh*t https://www.dirtgame.com/uk/racenet/1458196 6+ leagues. 

Kakkela said:

RinusRally said:

Why are you everytime talking about Gheed? Do you have something to tell? Gheed-fetsij or so? It's weird you are defending him every time. He uses 6+ leagues, so I am not even believing a word you say.  ;)

Cause he's the fastest here? I would ofc talk about myself but it's not as fun or proving when I'm just some top50 guy who randomly drives once in a while.

And I don't get whats the fuss about that league bug, you think everybody automatically uses it if it exists? Not everybody uses every possible exploit there is.

Yes, because everyone kept silent, until I was the person who publicized it in gossip topic. If you keep something that gives you infinite re-runs silent than you've done something horrible wrong, alias exploiting the sh*t out of it. If you are a good cheateryou reduce the leagues to 6 so people wont catch you :O but at last it shows some people are very stubborn. 

So you assume that people automatically use it if it exists? What if I want to legitimately run more than 6 leagues at the same time and wouldn't even think about using it? Actually most people wouldn't even know about it if there weren't someone like you to tell them. Normally you would just email CM Devs and wait them to fix it.

This post became monstrous....

[Porkhammer 78]

RinusRally said:

Porkhammer said:

And you're talking out of your behind, Rinus - so I am not even believing a word you say. ;)

Look this is Gheed. So I am not talking sh*t https://www.dirtgame.com/uk/racenet/1458196 6+ leagues.

Yes, nobody questions that - but we do question your accusations. Why would he take advantage of whatever bug you're on about? You need to tone down this paranoia of yours. If you're suspecting exploits, or have bugs to report - take it up with Codemasters themselves instead of yapping about it here, it's making people not want to take you seriously. Paranoid people aren't fun to deal with.

RinusRally said:

Porkhammer said:

Kakkela said:

RinusRally said:

Why are you everytime talking about Gheed? Do you have something to tell? Gheed-fetsij or so? It's weird you are defending him every time. He uses 6+ leagues, so I am not even believing a word you say.  ;)

Cause he's the fastest here? I would ofc talk about myself but it's not as fun or proving when I'm just some top50 guy who randomly drives once in a while.

And I don't get whats the fuss about that league bug, you think everybody automatically uses it if it exists? Not everybody uses every possible exploit there is.

Let him moan. Look in his direction, nod and smile. Win.

Then again you want to let me moan and don't want to have a good discussion/conversation. It seems to be you've guilty feelings about something you don't want people to know.  People who want to silence people are corrupt.

You accusing people, and saying people cheat because they don't play the game like you want them to play it, does not make a good conversation. The only thing corrupt in here is your mind.

You seriously need to chill.

[KevM 44]

It's not paranoia.  
With experience, brings ability to spot the methods with crystal clarity.

But it's not looking like changing

[JZStudios 631]

Well, I guess I'm the model DR player, even though I don't play it very often. I'm not fast, I use 900 dor, I'm not a member of any league, I use h-pattern/clutch + SQ, both paddle and stick, I don't do the daily/weekly/monthlies, and hell, I don't even do the career. I just do custom events mainly in Greece. Go ahead Rinus.... Make my day....

[griev0r 15]

Rinus, I can definitely see where you are coming from but in the the sim racing world sadly, it is not possible.  No sim ever has had these kind of restrictions on the players and how they want to play.  3 years ago I had 3 28" monitors, Obutto cockpit, Thrustmaster Th8 H shifter that doubled as my handbrake, and a Derek Speare sequential shifter.  I sold all of it cause I was sick of iRacing/RBR/circuit racing after a decade and there was no new rally sim in sight.  Then Dirt Rally came out of nowhere.  Luckily I kept a wheel stand a and a CSW wheel/pedal setup, but that's how I race now. 

When I had the setup to do authentic racing, I definitely did.  I ran multiple iRacing series just because the cars were H pattern with heel-toe and clutch use (Mustang series and Lotus 49 etc), but I was for sure slower than the other 90% of guys paddle shifting.  So yeah, I can definitely be one to say that while I would love a 100% authentic approach and options to do that you can't really handicap a game on the player bases hardware, cause while I used to have a complete setup I don't anymore and I have to make do with what I have. 

I use a Clubsport wheel with BMW rim at 540 degrees, Clubsport V2 pedals, on a wheel stand that I have to put a towel under my seat so it doesn't move around cause it has wheels.  Is that 'cheating'?

[PaloSamo 0]

Is your towel homologated?