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Atletico Madrid are not on Real, Barca, Bayern, United, Liverpool, AC Milan etc. level yet. It takes a while to become a very big team, and you don't lose that status after one season either. IMO it would take 1 or 2 decades of no real success to lose it fully (No League, UCL)

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AMS97KRR said:

Atletico Madrid are not on Real, Barca, Bayern, United, Liverpool, AC Milan etc. level yet. It takes a while to become a very big team, and you don't lose that status after one season either. IMO it would take 1 or 2 decades of no real success to lose it fully (No League, UCL)

Exactly you need at least to be on a run where you're on a run of winning 1 or 2 trophies at least every other season and at least managing to make the latter stages in the times you don't win too to really establish yourself as a big team which would mean one of the others would end up dropping off that list. I'm not saying the likes of Chelsea or Ateletico can't but it would require a lot of effort on their part to achieve that as they'd have to be constantly winning year in year out.

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Tbh, in Europe we've easily been the best English team for the last decade, usually getting to the quarters at least usually further. Only two years we haven't and won of them we won the Europa League. Of course we aren't bigger than United, Liverpool but we're now on par with Arsenal. 

I'd go as far as to say that we're the only English club Barca, Real and Bayern wouldnt want to play in a quarter/semi final/final.

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This is what the Stadium of Light sounds like at its very best.

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9432669/sky-sports-vault-%7C-sunderland-1-1-man-utd-august-2002

And what it looked like when it had red seats! :p 

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fIsince08 said:

This is what the Stadium of Light sounds like at its very best.

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9432669/sky-sports-vault-%7C-sunderland-1-1-man-utd-august-2002

And what it looked like when it had red seats! :p 

Yeaaaaaaaaaah, certainly was bouncing in that video..........



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fIsince08 said:

This is what the Stadium of Light sounds like at its very best.

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9432669/sky-sports-vault-%7C-sunderland-1-1-man-utd-august-2002

And what it looked like when it had red seats! :p 

What happened to the seats? Did they fade or something? 

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fIsince08 said:

This is what the Stadium of Light sounds like at its very best.

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9432669/sky-sports-vault-%7C-sunderland-1-1-man-utd-august-2002

And what it looked like when it had red seats! :p 

What happened to the seats? Did they fade or something? 

Yeah, most of them are 17 year old now and they haven't been replaced :p I think there was a petition going when we won the best fans award last season to spend the £2000 on new seats, dunno what happened to it.


EDIT: Some old MOTD commentators are returning this weekend.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28881806

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Good news for a certain Sunderland fan here, Herrara is injured and Rojo can't play due to a lack of a work permit. Bad news: RvP is back. 


Even with RVP back up top with Rooney, our midfield will (probably) be the mighty Cleverley and Fletcher pairing.


United are suffering so much with injuries right now, none of our summer signings can even play :(

Our Team will be: De Gea, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Young, Januzaj, Fletcher, Cleverley, Mata, Rooney and RvP


Doesn't that scare you?

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Pretty amazing downfall Garry Kenneth has had. Looked a promising prospect whilst at Dundee United and was capped for Scotland numerous times... 
 Few seasons ago he made his move into the English leagues joining Bristol Rovers but picked up a serious injury...
Got released and joined Brechin up here, got released again and is now playing juniors football...

Although not quite as bad as Garry O'Conner, sure Luke will remember him ;)

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