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Dirt Rally"Xbox One" Force Feedback settings with Thrustmaster TX (v.50)

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Yes I change DOR to 540 using buttons on the TX base,  I haven't tried any other DOR setting yet, but I will try tonight on 180, 360 and 900, see what it feels like. For the in-game calibrations I've done as instructed by Codies. Please note, that when it firsts asks you to turn your wheel fully to the right or left, make sure you turn as far as you can until your reach 100, because it turns easily to about 96, and then you need to further turn it to 100. Then  after that turn the wheel to 900 degrees = 90. People used to calibrate the wheel wrong on Pcars and were getting bad FFB or really strong wheel. Calibration is very important. Good luck :)
About the calibration - I've done EXACTLY like you said when it asked me to turn left or right. I pushed it all the way to 100. And then to 900 degrees.
But in the test section on screen it still says 96% only!?

What is wrong?
96% is normal, it's like a safety stop. It was the same in PCARS.

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96% is normal, it's like a safety stop. It was the same in PCARS.
So you are saying I shouldn't force the wheel further than 96% when I calibrate? It stops at 96% but should I push it all the way to 100 or not ??

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96% is normal, it's like a safety stop. It was the same in PCARS.
So you are saying I shouldn't force the wheel further than 96% when I calibrate? It stops at 96% but should I push it all the way to 100 or not ??
I tried to push it too 100, but it stays at 96. I think it's not a problem.

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96% is normal, it's like a safety stop. It was the same in PCARS.
So you are saying I shouldn't force the wheel further than 96% when I calibrate? It stops at 96% but should I push it all the way to 100 or not ??
I tried to push it too 100, but it stays at 96. I think it's not a problem.
This is the reason that post calibration, the Saturation level is set to 95.
This way, you are reaching 100% lock when you wheel is fully turned in either direction (instead of 96% as you both noted) - which by the way is normal, as mine does the same thing.
So you can see what I am referring to, look at the bottom of the advanced wheel settings page, you'll see sliders that move in conjunction with your wheel and pedal inputs. When SAT is 95, you get 100% lock.

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after many hours of playing with the settings i finally came up with these settings, seams to be spot on for me, Altho you may want more weight to the wheel and if you do just raise the SELF Algining Torque until it feels right for you.

The settings i use are as follows:

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  30%
Steering Linearity   -5
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  30%  (No ABS) You may want to raise this to around 70%
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  off
Center Steering  off

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   20%  <<< Raise this if you want a heavier wheel
Wheel Friction   15%
Tyre Friction   150%
Suspension    150%
Tyre Slip    150%
Engine   150%
Collision    150%
Soft Lock   150%
Steering Center Force 100%

Tip: if you calibrate your wheel i suggest when it asks you to turn the wheel to full lock and press any button, You turn the wheel to where you want full lock to be
(EG: when it asked me to turn my wheel to full lock i just turned my wheel to where i want full lock which was 90* and when it asked me to turn the wheel 90* i turned the wheel 45*, So my full lock is now at 3 O'clock and 9 O'clock and my 90* lock is now half way between center and 3/9 o'clock).

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^^
Is this with a TX wheel?

It's funny because it's so hard to describe the feeling, and when we look at some numbers together without the same steering wheel, it only becomes one big mess!
If we try to compare the feeling of the force feedback I would describe the feeling of the steering wheel I try to achieve the following way:
No matter how fast I drive and which turns I go through, I always want to be able to turn the steering wheel to a degree so I'm NOT sitting back, with a sense of "it's simply impossible to turn this steering wheel."

It should be firm, but steer relatively effortless. If I can't be counter steering midway through a turn, then it's too heavy.
If I at any point can't turn the steering wheel with one hand, then it is too heavy.
In other words, you shouldn't get a thumb dislocated because you drift through a hairpin and then completely oversteers midway, as you end up sitting with your left thumb stuck because you can't turn.
There must be resistance tho, and you should clearly feel the car loses grip when understeering on dry tarmac. For example. if you can't feel the car's front wheels loses grip when understeering, so is your SAT (Master Scale) too low.

That's how I look at my FFB settings with my TX wheel.
(sorry for my bad english)

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SAT isn't master scale.

Those are mad looking settings ^^^!  Can't imagine how they feel....

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Is this with a TX wheel?

It's funny because it's so hard to describe the feeling, and when we look at some numbers together without the same steering wheel, it only becomes one big mess!
If we try to compare the feeling of the force feedback I would describe the feeling of the steering wheel I try to achieve the following way:
No matter how fast I drive and which turns I go through, I always want to be able to turn the steering wheel to a degree so I'm NOT sitting back, with a sense of "it's simply impossible to turn this steering wheel."

It should be firm, but steer relatively effortless. If I can't be counter steering midway through a turn, then it's too heavy.
If I at any point can't turn the steering wheel with one hand, then it is too heavy.
In other words, you shouldn't get a thumb dislocated because you drift through a hairpin and then completely oversteers midway, as you end up sitting with your left thumb stuck because you can't turn.
There must be resistance tho, and you should clearly feel the car loses grip when understeering on dry tarmac. For example. if you can't feel the car's front wheels loses grip when understeering, so is your SAT (Master Scale) too low.

That's how I look at my FFB settings with my TX wheel.
(sorry for my bad english)
The one gripe I have about the FFB is exactly what you described above that you should feel, but seemingly is non existent. That is, Tarmac and tire slip from the front wheels. There does not seem to be a lot of noise coming through the wheel when this happens, I wish there was more because I find driving on Tarmac has a very mute feeling overall, almost as if I am driving on a smooth sheet of ice. My SAT btw is at 75, which should be plenty high in order to feel the road noise...even on smooth Tarmac, and especially during a slide or when the car is ploughing through a turn.

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I've been testing force feedback again - this time 5 hours non stop.

And I can confirm ONE THING for sure!
The force feedback in DiRT Rally must be adjusted individualy on every single car.
What fits the BMW E30 best - doesn't fit the Fiat Abart for example. That's a fact.

The settings i use are as follows:

Test setup:
Thrustmaster TX wheel, 599XX EVO add on, T3PA-PRO pedals and TH8A shifter.
Car: BMW E30 M3 (default car setup)
Track: Järvenkylä, Finland.
No assists!
Manual gear (H-shifter + clutch)
900 degrees rotation.

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  60% (this is at 60 because Soft Lock is OFF, can catch EVERY slide now)
Steering Linearity   0
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  100%  (No ABS)
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  OFF
Center Steering  ON

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   20%  (this is the sweetspot on a TX wheel, testet by real life drifter)
Wheel Friction   0% (At 100% it will only slow down counter steering)
Tyre Friction   0% (I can't feel this force much really, at 0 it won't "hurt" other forces)
Suspension    44% (was at 71 before, but I feel clipping higher than 50)
Tyre Slip    44% (was at 100 before, but I feel clipping when turning)
Engine    0%  (I can't feel this force much either, so at 0 it won't "hurt" other forces)
Collision    60%
Soft Lock   0% (this is zero so the wheel won't knock at the Soft Lock)
Steering Center Force 100%

Remember - this only works on a TX wheel with the BMW E30 M3

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KevM said:
SAT isn't master scale.

Those are mad looking settings ^^^!  Can't imagine how they feel....
Those are only mad settings, because you got the Logitech G920 wheel, Kev!
The force feedback on the Thrustmaster TX and T300 wheel is very, very strong my friend!

Self Aligning Torque is truly a sweetspot at 20 on the TX wheel. But remember there is so much difference between the cars in DiRT Rally, that they really need their seperat FFB setting each and one of them.


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I think that the settings I am running are largely applicable across most vehicles. It becomes a question of learning how the vehicle reacts and the different intensities of FFB that are characteristic to it...and then learning how to control the car accordingly.
Fact is, IRL, all cars display different character, they do not all feel universal in the feedback they offer the driver. Some under steer, others oversteer, some translate noise from the road better than others, they all have a different feel. Sure, small tweeks here and there are warranted to get the optimal set up, but, by and large - I have found the difference is not the settings and the impact they have on the car, but rather the car and the impact it has to experiencing the FFB settings.

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KevM said:
SAT isn't master scale.

Those are mad looking settings ^^^!  Can't imagine how they feel....
Those are only mad settings, because you got the Logitech G920 wheel, Kev!
The force feedback on the Thrustmaster TX and T300 wheel is very, very strong my friend!

Self Aligning Torque is truly a sweetspot at 20 on the TX wheel. But remember there is so much difference between the cars in DiRT Rally, that they really need their seperat FFB setting each and one of them.



TX wheel is less than double the torque of G29/920 so it won't be huge difference (in all-in-one consumer wheels we are talking about torque of 3-7Nm)
T500 got bit more torque than TX and I know people that use more FFB for those than your settings.
I have been using same settings for every car, only thing I would change them around is tarmac as it's just not working properly. Reason why some cars wheel different with same setup is that their suspension geometry and weight is different.

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SBenwell said:
after many hours of playing with the settings i finally came up with these settings, seams to be spot on for me, Altho you may want more weight to the wheel and if you do just raise the SELF Algining Torque until it feels right for you.

The settings i use are as follows:

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  30%
Steering Linearity   -5
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  30%  (No ABS) You may want to raise this to around 70%
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  off
Center Steering  off

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   20%  <<< Raise this if you want a heavier wheel
Wheel Friction   15%
Tyre Friction   150%
Suspension    150%
Tyre Slip    150%
Engine   150%
Collision    150%
Soft Lock   150%
Steering Center Force 100%

Tip: if you calibrate your wheel i suggest when it asks you to turn the wheel to full lock and press any button, You turn the wheel to where you want full lock to be
(EG: when it asked me to turn my wheel to full lock i just turned my wheel to where i want full lock which was 90* and when it asked me to turn the wheel 90* i turned the wheel 45*, So my full lock is now at 3 O'clock and 9 O'clock and my 90* lock is now half way between center and 3/9 o'clock).
I really like these settings, i just raise the self aligning torque for each car when i want a heavier wheel. Well done!

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I've been testing force feedback again - this time 5 hours non stop.

And I can confirm ONE THING for sure!
The force feedback in DiRT Rally must be adjusted individualy on every single car.
What fits the BMW E30 best - doesn't fit the Fiat Abart for example. That's a fact.

The settings i use are as follows:

Test setup:
Thrustmaster TX wheel, 599XX EVO add on, T3PA-PRO pedals and TH8A shifter.
Car: BMW E30 M3 (default car setup)
Track: Järvenkylä, Finland.
No assists!
Manual gear (H-shifter + clutch)
900 degrees rotation.

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  60% (this is at 60 because Soft Lock is OFF, can catch EVERY slide now)
Steering Linearity   0
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  100%  (No ABS)
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  OFF
Center Steering  ON

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   20%  (this is the sweetspot on a TX wheel, testet by real life drifter)
Wheel Friction   0% (At 100% it will only slow down counter steering)
Tyre Friction   0% (I can't feel this force much really, at 0 it won't "hurt" other forces)
Suspension    44% (was at 71 before, but I feel clipping higher than 50)
Tyre Slip    44% (was at 100 before, but I feel clipping when turning)
Engine    0%  (I can't feel this force much either, so at 0 it won't "hurt" other forces)
Collision    60%
Soft Lock   0% (this is zero so the wheel won't knock at the Soft Lock)
Steering Center Force 100%

Remember - this only works on a TX wheel with the BMW E30 M3

I must try these settings today, they're really different from the last you posted. 

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GruppoB said:I must try these settings today, they're really different from the last you posted. 
Year they are quite different, but this time they are tested by a real life drifter, and it really works well. The forces I used before simply wasn't realistic.
You should be able to drift through hairpins with one hand at the top of the steering wheel. If not - it's too heavy.

Looking forward to getting some feedback on the settings.
Remember to test it in a BMW E30 M3.

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I've been testing force feedback again - this time 5 hours non stop.

And I can confirm ONE THING for sure!
The force feedback in DiRT Rally must be adjusted individualy on every single car.
What fits the BMW E30 best - doesn't fit the Fiat Abart for example. That's a fact.

The settings i use are as follows:

Test setup:
Thrustmaster TX wheel, 599XX EVO add on, T3PA-PRO pedals and TH8A shifter.
Car: BMW E30 M3 (default car setup)
Track: Järvenkylä, Finland.
No assists!
Manual gear (H-shifter + clutch)
900 degrees rotation.

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  60% (this is at 60 because Soft Lock is OFF, can catch EVERY slide now)
Steering Linearity   0
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  100%  (No ABS)
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  OFF
Center Steering  ON

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   20%  (this is the sweetspot on a TX wheel, testet by real life drifter)
Wheel Friction   0% (At 100% it will only slow down counter steering)
Tyre Friction   0% (I can't feel this force much really, at 0 it won't "hurt" other forces)
Suspension    44% (was at 71 before, but I feel clipping higher than 50)
Tyre Slip    44% (was at 100 before, but I feel clipping when turning)
Engine    0%  (I can't feel this force much either, so at 0 it won't "hurt" other forces)
Collision    60%
Soft Lock   0% (this is zero so the wheel won't knock at the Soft Lock)
Steering Center Force 100%

Remember - this only works on a TX wheel with the BMW E30 M3


I tested your settings last night and personally I found them too light and not giving back enough feedback of what the car is doing. They're not bad settings, but for me to be quick I prefer a little different settings.

I've done quite a bit of testing myself yesterday, and almost found the settings that I like, still few adjustments to be made but it's getting there. Also I found that every car needs a little adjustment, seems like you can't apply the same settings to all the cars.

Here are my settings if anyone wants to try:

Test setup:
Thrustmaster TX 459 Italia wheel, T3PA pedals.
Car: Most of them

Location: Tested in Finland, but feels good everywhere.
No assists, except ABS on 2.
900 or 540 degrees rotation. ( This is the setting on the actual wheel, not the in-game. This needs to be adjuster per car, if you feel like you are struggling to catch the slides and require a lot of turn, lower down to 540, if not keep it on 900. Sometimes I prefer 900, just because I like turning the wheel more and not driving so much in the center of the wheel, with 540 you can turn the wheel less, but the driving becomes more around the center, this also depends what location you are racing in. Codemasters suggested setting is 540. At the end it's the personal preference.)

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  100% (this is at 100 because Soft Lock is ON)
Steering Linearity   0
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  100%  
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  ON
Center Steering  ON

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   45%  (I use this like a Master Volume and adjust per car and location, if it feels too light I turn it up, too heavy turn it down. I find that 60s-70s cars around 45 is nice, and new cars like recent WRC I set at around 35%, because they provide more grip and speed, so the FFB feels heavier and more bouncy)
Wheel Friction   3%
Tyre Friction   80%
Suspension    60%
Tyre Slip    80%
Engine    70%  
Collision    75%
Soft Lock   65%
Steering Center Force 100%

Have a good and see what you think.

I have to say, Codies done an amazing job with the whole game, the stages are an absolute joy to drive on. I've to WRC Wales like 6 times, and it feels like I've seen some stages in real life, it's great :)

Next upgrade for me 599XX Evo Wheel add-on and a buttkicker :)

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I've been testing force feedback again - this time 5 hours non stop.

And I can confirm ONE THING for sure!
The force feedback in DiRT Rally must be adjusted individualy on every single car.
What fits the BMW E30 best - doesn't fit the Fiat Abart for example. That's a fact.

The settings i use are as follows:

Test setup:
Thrustmaster TX wheel, 599XX EVO add on, T3PA-PRO pedals and TH8A shifter.
Car: BMW E30 M3 (default car setup)
Track: Järvenkylä, Finland.
No assists!
Manual gear (H-shifter + clutch)
900 degrees rotation.

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  60% (this is at 60 because Soft Lock is OFF, can catch EVERY slide now)
Steering Linearity   0
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  100%  (No ABS)
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  OFF
Center Steering  ON

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   20%  (this is the sweetspot on a TX wheel, testet by real life drifter)
Wheel Friction   0% (At 100% it will only slow down counter steering)
Tyre Friction   0% (I can't feel this force much really, at 0 it won't "hurt" other forces)
Suspension    44% (was at 71 before, but I feel clipping higher than 50)
Tyre Slip    44% (was at 100 before, but I feel clipping when turning)
Engine    0%  (I can't feel this force much either, so at 0 it won't "hurt" other forces)
Collision    60%
Soft Lock   0% (this is zero so the wheel won't knock at the Soft Lock)
Steering Center Force 100%

Remember - this only works on a TX wheel with the BMW E30 M3


I tested your settings last night and personally I found them too light and not giving back enough feedback of what the car is doing. They're not bad settings, but for me to be quick I prefer a little different settings.

I've done quite a bit of testing myself yesterday, and almost found the settings that I like, still few adjustments to be made but it's getting there. Also I found that every car needs a little adjustment, seems like you can't apply the same settings to all the cars.

Here are my settings if anyone wants to try:

Test setup:
Thrustmaster TX 459 Italia wheel, T3PA pedals.
Car: Most of them

Location: Tested in Finland, but feels good everywhere.
No assists, except ABS on 2.
900 or 540 degrees rotation. ( This is the setting on the actual wheel, not the in-game. This needs to be adjuster per car, if you feel like you are struggling to catch the slides and require a lot of turn, lower down to 540, if not keep it on 900. Sometimes I prefer 900, just because I like turning the wheel more and not driving so much in the center of the wheel, with 540 you can turn the wheel less, but the driving becomes more around the center, this also depends what location you are racing in. Codemasters suggested setting is 540. At the end it's the personal preference.)

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  100% (this is at 100 because Soft Lock is ON)
Steering Linearity   0
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  100%  
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  ON
Center Steering  ON

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   45%  (I use this like a Master Volume and adjust per car and location, if it feels too light I turn it up, too heavy turn it down. I find that 60s-70s cars around 45 is nice, and new cars like recent WRC I set at around 35%, because they provide more grip and speed, so the FFB feels heavier and more bouncy)
Wheel Friction   3%
Tyre Friction   80%
Suspension    60%
Tyre Slip    80%
Engine    70%  
Collision    75%
Soft Lock   65%
Steering Center Force 100%

Have a good and see what you think.

I have to say, Codies done an amazing job with the whole game, the stages are an absolute joy to drive on. I've to WRC Wales like 6 times, and it feels like I've seen some stages in real life, it's great :)

Next upgrade for me 599XX Evo Wheel add-on and a buttkicker :)

I'll try these settings later. I'm also toying with getting a 599 evo wheel or a TH8A shifter. I really don't like the standard tx wheel. The fact its super grippy on the sides and slippy plastic on the top just doesn't feel right to me. I'm not sure which one to go for 1st. I think the sequential mode on the th8a will be perfect for dirt rally. Just wish I could afford both :-/

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I would go with 599 evo first :) It's a little bit bigger in diameter as well, so should feel more like a real thing and better degree of rotation. Guys on Pcars were faster going from standard TX wheel to 599 evo.

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I would go with 599 evo first :) It's a little bit bigger in diameter as well, so should feel more like a real thing and better degree of rotation. Guys on Pcars were faster going from standard TX wheel to 599 evo.
Must admit I have been swaying in that direction after playing dirt rally. Cheers bud, I'll let you know how I get on :-)

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For me,

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   30%
Wheel Friction   60%
Tyre Friction   120%
Suspension    120%
Tyre Slip    120%
Engine   120%
Collision    100%
Soft Lock   40%
Steering Center Force 20%

Why? Because I'm on an Xbox One. Through PC analysis of belt friction and ffb forces to base, the TX on an XBO is a very different monster than on PC. Not only does the Xbox disregard the software settings that pop up when you USB your wheel to a PC (as in a firmware update) but it overrides any independent software settings that PC users live by. (Note that this does not refer to the "on wheel" DoR that you can change with the mode and D-pad). The XBO ffb is much stronger than on PC (also, I have played on both) and I have been around the block for a year with Project Cars, whose settings are massively intricate.

Next, a rally car has power steering, unless you go back a long way in time. As such, I can't stand centering force. This is far too overdone in general re: racing games vs. real life. The wheel needs to be very free and very non-centered. I think most of us know where center is anyway. Even a non power steering wheel is very loose at speed. Of course, you need some ffb to mimic the g-force effect, but just enough to trigger your brain in rally (and racing to some degree) is enough. The torque setting and wheel friction setting are the only forces that I can tell (in DiRT) affect the strength of ffb feel. The others are simply gravy to a large part, and I keep them higher in general, so they can shine through, as they make the game sublime. Torque and Friction are low. Once you have this basic concept down, you can have a very lifelike experience.


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Kakkela said:
KevM said:
SAT isn't master scale.

Those are mad looking settings ^^^!  Can't imagine how they feel....
Those are only mad settings, because you got the Logitech G920 wheel, Kev!
The force feedback on the Thrustmaster TX and T300 wheel is very, very strong my friend!

Self Aligning Torque is truly a sweetspot at 20 on the TX wheel. But remember there is so much difference between the cars in DiRT Rally, that they really need their seperat FFB setting each and one of them.



TX wheel is less than double the torque of G29/920 so it won't be huge difference (in all-in-one consumer wheels we are talking about torque of 3-7Nm)
T500 got bit more torque than TX and I know people that use more FFB for those than your settings.
I have been using same settings for every car, only thing I would change them around is tarmac as it's just not working properly. Reason why some cars wheel different with same setup is that their suspension geometry and weight is different.
Try the latest Impact FFB mod on RD. The tarmac feeling is MUCH better. I kept all my vanilla FFB settings except SUSP which rattled too much at 65. Lowered that to 20.

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SBenwell said:
Hi
 I use the Thrustmaster TX 458 wheel, These are the settings i use, They may help you also to have the drive of your life.

Advanced Wheel Settings:
Steering Deadzone   0%
Steering Saturation  15%
Steering Linearity   0
Throttle Deadzone  0%
Throttle Saturation  100%
Brake Deadzone   0%
Brake Saturation  20%  (No ABS)
Clutch Deadzone   0%
Clutch Saturation  100%
Soft Lock  Off
Center Steering  On

Force Feedback Settings:
Vibration & Feedback  On
Self Aligning Torque   10%
Wheel Friction   20%
Tyre Friction   20%
Suspension    20%
Tyre Slip    30%
Engine   20%
Collision    50%
Soft Lock   100%
Steering Center Force 100%

If you find your having trouble give these settings a try, I come mainly 2nd in all the rally stages.
Good Luck


Please leave feedback for others if you use these settings,  Thanks
Thank you loads. But what about Base settings please ?

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