Multiplayer Rally Mode

[KevM 44]

TRLKarthikeyan said:

SirPhilMcKraken said:

This game is the best they can possibly make it with the technical limitations they have,

fair enough it cant support multiple cars on the stage at once but surely they must add multiplayer rally where say 8 people join a lobby , host sets stage etc then for each player it goes into a single player rally and uploads the time(this is how richard burns rally ai times are done) into a lobby leaderboard at the end. This is possible through leagues which is fine for friends but by not having the ability to play random people is not how you grow a community.

Thats a Racenet League                                                   

[TRLKarthikeyan 0]

KevM said:

TRLKarthikeyan said:

SirPhilMcKraken said:

This game is the best they can possibly make it with the technical limitations they have,

fair enough it cant support multiple cars on the stage at once but surely they must add multiplayer rally where say 8 people join a lobby , host sets stage etc then for each player it goes into a single player rally and uploads the time(this is how richard burns rally ai times are done) into a lobby leaderboard at the end. This is possible through leagues which is fine for friends but by not having the ability to play random people is not how you grow a community.

Thats a Racenet League                                                   

is that accessible in game though. if not then thats quite disappointing

[RallyDriven 398]

RinusRally said:

Why can't people read or listen. This has been discussed to dead on Steam, here, Reddit and anywhere else. Game is almost a year old, most people have played it since Early Acces. You console people are new, so use the Search-function or go back to your couch, play the game, get all achievements and go play COD again. Jeezzz. 

It's not our fault, we were just born stupid.

Lots of sarcasm there. It's been the same all throughout early access, multiple posts about the same thing every time an update comes out. At least there's not 2000 posts about Finland being set in Autumn.

[LIPMAN 0]

Please note in my comment I say the original dirt which was the original Colin McRae Dirt not DiRT 3

[MLT24 0]

"It's made to be as authentic as possible."

Uh being able to compete head to head in a Rally race is not authentic to real world racing? Its done at every Rally race. They don't have a race where only one driver shows up.

"Current game engine can't do it."

Uh it did in previous Dirt games. And it does it very well in this game but only RallyX. These are NOT valid excuses for CM. Obviously it can be done. They HAD TO KNOW it wud cause a Huge stir by leaving it out. Now I love the league mode, all new racing games shud have it. But don't leave out a long standing online mode. Its like COD without online. PB & J sandwhich without the J. 

CM needs to get this implemented asap or this game is going down in flames. CM come on. I hv been a fan for a long time, but hv been let down for unfinished games or not fixing games over the last 8 years. Please make this right!

[Porkhammer 78]

MLT24 said:

"It's made to be as authentic as possible."

Uh being able to compete head to head in a Rally is not authentic to real world racing? Its done at every Rally. They don't have a race where only one driver shows up.

Uh, yes, but with long intervals, so it wouldn't amuse todays generation of "gamers" that has the patience equivalent to that of exactly nothing.

MLT24 said:

"Current game engine can't do it."

Uh it did in previous Dirt games.

Uh, this is a different engine. They had to re-do a lot. It's basically nothing like any previous Dirt title.

[Spokster 0]

MLT24 said:

"It's made to be as authentic as possible."

Uh being able to compete head to head in a Rally race is not authentic to real world racing? Its done at every Rally race. They don't have a race where only one driver shows up.

"Current game engine can't do it."

Uh it did in previous Dirt games. And it does it very well in this game but only RallyX. These are NOT valid excuses for CM. Obviously it can be done. They HAD TO KNOW it wud cause a Huge stir by leaving it out. Now I love the league mode, all new racing games shud have it. But don't leave out a long standing online mode. Its like COD without online. PB & J sandwhich without the J. 

CM needs to get this implemented asap or this game is going down in flames. CM come on. I hv been a fan for a long time, but hv been let down for unfinished games or not fixing games over the last 8 years. Please make this right!

In response to what RallyDriven already said: "In short: the current engine doesn't support multiple cars on the new longer and more detailed rally stages. So, instead there are many other online events, such as leagues and daily/weekly/monthly challenges, as well as online rallycross pvp."

It's a spin-off of Dirt 1, 2 and 3, it's not the same game, if you don't think so look up what 'spin-off' means.
Leave it be, enjoy the game or go play Dirt 3 with multiplayer.

[RallyDriven 398]

Its a new game engine, stages are massively more detailed and longer, plus there's way more depth in car handling and behaviour. They would have implemented it if they could, but sadly it was told to us a long while ago that the stages couldn't support more than one car

[LIPMAN 0]

I would be happy if it was an online lobby where you could set up a rally and everyone did the same rally at the same time with a leaderboard at the end but only one car on the track that would work.  Then friends could have a private race without any worries

[BrySkye 14]

Hang on people, let's keep the facts straight. Its not a 'new' game engine and never has been.
It's a modification, and while a lot was re-made, this game was always under certain budget restrictions which limited what could be done.
The fact that its NOT a new engine is one of the biggest stumbling blocks as to why we do not have multiple cars on the rally stages.

One of the big things that has changed from DiRT 3 is the stage length.

Stages in DiRT Rally are significantly longer than they were in DiRT 3. That requires more of everything and was one of the key reasons why multiple cars on track was ruled out pretty early on. Note how it's being called an engine limitation rather than a hardware one.
There is give and take when using an older engine which only had the budget for fairly limited modification (comparatively), most of which was focused into the physics.
Yes, DiRT 3 could do it, but it was one of the reasons why the longest stages in DiRT 3 were less than half the length of what you see at Pikes Peak.
Rally Cross can do it, but again, you're on a comparatively tiny and confined circuit. That's freed up the resources to get more cars on track.

It's a message that's largely been lost in the translation to consoles, where it's had to be expanded as much as possible to be a 'true' game, but DiRT Rally was built as a proof of concept. To prove that there was a market for a game that was less of... whatever the hell DiRT Showdown was, and more simulation focused.
But it was made by a smaller team with a smaller budget who were up against executives who didn't exactly have a lot of faith in the product, hence why it had managed to exceed it's lifestime sales expectations before it even left Early Access.

[TRLKarthikeyan 0]

but surely after they realised the engine limitation they should have gone for a plan b - just laptimes from the online session in the same way the ai works

[Kakkela 3]

TRLKarthikeyan said:

but surely after they realised the engine limitation they should have gone for a plan b - just laptimes from the online session in the same way the ai works

But league already does this, just better because it gives flexibility to run it over longer time. Of course you can set it up for just half an hour too if you like.

[PaloSamo 0]

Jeez, people. Just play the game already!

[TRLKarthikeyan 0]

Kakkela said:

TRLKarthikeyan said:

but surely after they realised the engine limitation they should have gone for a plan b - just laptimes from the online session in the same way the ai works

But league already does this, just better because it gives flexibility to run it over longer time. Of course you can set it up for just half an hour too if you like.

thats good for a group of friends but for the average joe who wants to just plug and play against random people well, thats not possible. i dont see how a simple system that puts the drivers in a lobby and simply uploads their stage times was not implemented(hopefully it will get added).   

[thecraicbear 0]

MLT24 said:

"It's made to be as authentic as possible."

Uh being able to compete head to head in a Rally race is not authentic to real world racing? Its done at every Rally race. They don't have a race where only one driver shows up.

"Current game engine can't do it."

Uh it did in previous Dirt games. And it does it very well in this game but only RallyX. These are NOT valid excuses for CM. Obviously it can be done. They HAD TO KNOW it wud cause a Huge stir by leaving it out. Now I love the league mode, all new racing games shud have it. But don't leave out a long standing online mode. Its like COD without online. PB & J sandwhich without the J. 

CM needs to get this implemented asap or this game is going down in flames. CM come on. I hv been a fan for a long time, but hv been let down for unfinished games or not fixing games over the last 8 years. Please make this right!

Jesus fucking Christ... 

[MLT24 0]

Spokster said:

MLT24 said:

"It's made to be as authentic as possible."

Uh being able to compete head to head in a Rally race is not authentic to real world racing? Its done at every Rally race. They don't have a race where only one driver shows up.

"Current game engine can't do it."

Uh it did in previous Dirt games. And it does it very well in this game but only RallyX. These are NOT valid excuses for CM. Obviously it can be done. They HAD TO KNOW it wud cause a Huge stir by leaving it out. Now I love the league mode, all new racing games shud have it. But don't leave out a long standing online mode. Its like COD without online. PB & J sandwhich without the J. 

CM needs to get this implemented asap or this game is going down in flames. CM come on. I hv been a fan for a long time, but hv been let down for unfinished games or not fixing games over the last 8 years. Please make this right!

In response to what RallyDriven already said: "In short: the current engine doesn't support multiple cars on the new longer and more detailed rally stages. So, instead there are many other online events, such as leagues and daily/weekly/monthly challenges, as well as online rallycross pvp."

It's a spin-off of Dirt 1, 2 and 3, it's not the same game, if you don't think so look up what 'spin-off' means.
Leave it be, enjoy the game or go play Dirt 3 with multiplayer.

Who are you? You work for CM? Do you know for a fact what you say?

Also, I never expected "multiple cars" on the track at the same time. I just want a Lobby, we all start at same time, and at the end the times show up with leaderboard. And we can run a championship. I don't even need a ghost, just somewhere on the screen showing who is running where. Now that should be something they can do and should have done. Again, no multiple cars or even ghost, just an organized way we can race together in Rally format at the same time with a leaderboard. Surely CM can handle that right?  And no leagues are not it.

The League, daily, weeklys, monthlys are great and I plan to run them all the time, but not side by side with my friends. As anyone can plainly see I am mad as heck I spent $60 on a game that doesn't have online with the biggest part of the game. And this you say!
"Leave it be, enjoy the game or go play Dirt 3 with multiplayer."
No I won't let it be and Dirt 3 has been over with a long time ago. CM had better give us at at least a very simple online lobby system mode for Rally or I will NEVER stop campaigning for them to do so, wherever I can.  Or CM should contact Sony and have them issue us refunds for an very incomplete game!!!!!!! Just think about it, we can't even race with our friends online with the largest part of the game, and it is a racing game? WTheck was CM thinking? It is called Dirt "Rally."

Recreation of the facts on day one.
"Hey buds, lets hook up and run some rally together, oh no wait, we can't. Dang I just wasted $60!!!!!! " And CM knew it was coming. 

[Kakkela 3]

You could find all of this information before you bought the game. It's been out for PC ~4 months now. And over half a year in Early Access before that.

[BrySkye 14]

MLT24 said:

Who are you? You work for CM? Do you know for a fact what you say?

This is stuff that has been clearly stated by CM for nearly half a year.
There is this series called "DiRT Show" on Youtube, which was a more or less hour long monthly update live show streamed by the developers on Twitch. This was a subject discussed more than once.
You might be new here, but some of us have been playing the game for a year and some of us do have direct means of contact with the devs too.

[Daytrader 1]

The game needs online rally period, its 2016, and games 10 years ago had it.

[Kakkela 3]

Daytrader said:

The game needs online rally period, its 2016, and games 10 years ago had it.

This game doesn't have it and will not ever get it. There's no point in complaining here because CM has already said so.
CM did poll community before they released DiRT to Early Access and league support were one of the most requested features so that's what we got.
Most people have been happy with this decision for a while now.

[KingOfCoins 286]

Daytrader said:

The game needs online rally period, its 2016, and games 10 years ago had it.

but those games didnt have the same level of detail, advanced physics and stage length as Dirt rally, not to mention limited budget.

[austinb 37]

To be fair codemasters could have done what @MLT24 is saying and done it all in a lobby, start at the same time but seperately, then all meet back on the standings screen. They could have done that, as we have discussed many times before, but game developing involves prioritizing, and codemasters chose to spend their time elsewhere, as although it would be nice to do as said, it isnt vital, plus they would still get people complaining about not being "able to overtake each other", yawn.

[thecraicbear 0]

Daytrader said:

The game needs online rally period, its 2016, and games 10 years ago had it.

LMAO, goodness me. It doesn't need it, not at all. It would be nothing more than a welcome feature. 

The knee-jerk, illogical and unfounded rage of the internet is absolutely unreal. I feel as though this is going to turn into the F1 forums now that the uninformed portion of the console gamers have got their hands on the game. 

[RallyDriven 398]

You can't really call the game incomplete and ask for a refund because it doesn't have one feature that you want! I want to be able to have online elephant battles, I'm calling Microsoft and demanding all my moneys back

[Daytrader 1]

thecraicbear said:

Daytrader said:

The game needs online rally period, its 2016, and games 10 years ago had it.

LMAO, goodness me. It doesn't need it, not at all. It would be nothing more than a welcome feature. 

The knee-jerk, illogical and unfounded rage of the internet is absolutely unreal. I feel as though this is going to turn into the F1 forums now that the uninformed portion of the console gamers have got their hands on the game. 

Don't get m wrong, i love the game, i have it both on PC and Xbox One