"Win a Championship in..." Trophy/Achievement Question

[tbtstt 2,019]

Just a general question for all of you. I see there are quite a few trophies relating to winning Championships in a particular era of car (specifically "Does Your Mother Know?" for 70's, "So Last Year" for 2010s, "Fire Spitting Monsters" for Group B 4WD, "Hello Is Is Me You R looking 4?" for R4 and "Friends-Rivals-Champions-Legends" for 2000s).

Does anyone know exactly what the criteria is for these? Do they have to be won the main career? Can they be won in the Custom Championship? If so how many events/stages/difficult do you need to do to get them?

I'm curious as I have won a few custom events in 70s and 2000s cars now, but neither trophy has popped for me yet!

[KK78 9]

I think it has to be done in career mate as I've also done a few in Custom and they have not popped. I should soon be able to confirm if I can manage to get the Ford Escort MKII through Sweden without writing it off as I'm currently top with just that event to go in the 1970's Championship

[APR193 0]

I've also won customs in 60s and 70s and haven't got them, so think its main career only

[_BorisTheFrog_ 258]

Yes, it is career only.

If you've unlocked to masters level then good luck in attempting the achievements :)

[DocStrangelove 159]

I think main career only, but it can be on any difficulty. For achievement hunting, I recommend going back to Open (by aborting championships), where an event is a matter of about 15 minutes. That way, you can earn one of the achievements within roughly 90 minutes. On Masters, one championship takes about 6 hours! That means 60 hours for the 10 rally classes... if you win.

[RyuMakkuro 6]

Career only. Level doesn't matter.

Truth be told, I would say anyone purposefully dropping to lower difficulty levels is wasting time. Master level with fully upgraded cars is just a matter of finish the stages without crashing all over the place. You don't have to be fast, just clean. On some stages you may lose some time, on some you'll win some time. Point is, you can win on Master level even without having all upgrades unlocked for the car. While if you have all, it's just easy sailing and you earn more credits to buy other cars, so it's a win-win situation.

[_BorisTheFrog_ 258]

RyuMakkuro said:

Career only. Level doesn't matter.

Truth be told, I would say anyone purposefully dropping to lower difficulty levels is wasting time. Master level with fully upgraded cars is just a matter of finish the stages without crashing all over the place. You don't have to be fast, just clean. On some stages you may lose some time, on some you'll win some time. Point is, you can win on Master level even without having all upgrades unlocked for the car. While if you have all, it's just easy sailing and you earn more credits to buy other cars, so it's a win-win situation.

Not so sure about this. As it stands, the stage finish times for masters level AI are roughly on a par with the top 3-20 global leaderboard times (Xbox) so it would take an incredible amount of skill for anyone to consistently achieve these times in order to win the 6 rally series.

I've tried and failed on 4 occasions to push my little Mini to masters glory and whilst I can fare ok on Germany, Monte Carlo and Finland it's next to impossible to gain enough points from Greece, Wales and (especially) Sweden in order to achieve enough points to gain an overall championship title. The car just isn't quick enough to perform business end leaderboard times on the technical circuits.

But I will persist because eventually one (or both) of the same two drivers who win every stage every single time will eventually break down and possibly give just enough of a cushion to achieve my goal.

Plain sailing ? Not a prayer.......

[tbtstt 2,019]

Well if its career only, then it looks like it will be a while before I see those trophies! :smiley:

[Pfei 104]

If you want to backtrack on skill level, I assume what you could do is backup your save file, delete the save file, and start over again. Rinse and repeat. The when you get the trophies you can re-load your backup save file.

Note that this could take a long time with the more expensive cars and without your career engineers since you would have to play a lot of Custom Championships to be able to buy the more expensive cars.

I am going to wait for my G29 wheel to arrive before attempting these trophies on Elite Level (I am currently 2nd in Master with two rallies to go in a 2001 Subaru).

[shadow118 18]

RyuMakkuro said:

Career only. Level doesn't matter.

Truth be told, I would say anyone purposefully dropping to lower difficulty levels is wasting time. Master level with fully upgraded cars is just a matter of finish the stages without crashing all over the place. You don't have to be fast, just clean. On some stages you may lose some time, on some you'll win some time. Point is, you can win on Master level even without having all upgrades unlocked for the car. While if you have all, it's just easy sailing and you earn more credits to buy other cars, so it's a win-win situation.

There are 4 stages per event in Open and 12 stages per event in Masters. I might be wrong, but I think 4 stages are done faster than 12 :D Also, I already have all the cars, so I don't really have any major spendings left

[DocStrangelove 159]

turbopaws said:

Not so sure about this. As it stands, the stage finish times for masters level AI are roughly on a par with the top 3-20 global leaderboard times (Xbox) so it would take an incredible amount of skill for anyone to consistently achieve these times in order to win the 6 rally series.

Wut? Sometimes I'm 20 seconds ahead of the AI without reaching the PC Top 100...

[DocStrangelove 159]

RyuMakkuro said:

Truth be told, I would say anyone purposefully dropping to lower difficulty levels is wasting time. Master level with fully upgraded cars is just a matter of finish the stages without crashing all over the place. 

It's not much harder, but much, MUCH longer. A Masters championship goes through all 72 rally stages in the game, and you have to do it ten times to get all the achievements. That's the main reason why I suggested doing it in lower classes.

[Pfei 104]

OK, I was totally wrong about backing up your save and starting over. It's easier, as others have suggested, to just demote yourself by retiring from championships.

This seems to be the definitive thread regarding this: https://steamcommunity.com/app/310560/discussions/0/530646715631750437/

[tbtstt 2,019]

LudwigVonMises said:

OK, I was totally wrong about backing up your save and starting over. It's easier, as others have suggested, to just demote yourself by retiring from championships.

This seems to be the definitive thread regarding this: https://steamcommunity.com/app/310560/discussions/0/530646715631750437/

Thanks for the link @LudwigVonMises, that answers that question as well! :smile:

[RyuMakkuro 6]

Didzis said:
There are 4 stages per event in Open and 12 stages per event in Masters. I might be wrong, but I think 4 stages are done faster than 12 :D Also, I already have all the cars, so I don't really have any major spendings left

Truth, but you've been through the entire Early Access ;) Most people will be running short on credits at the start because of the need to buy everything, so winning masters should really be killing two birds with one stone.

turbopaws said:
Not so sure about this. As it stands, the stage finish times for masters level AI are roughly on a par with the top 3-20 global leaderboard times (Xbox) so it would take an incredible amount of skill for anyone to consistently achieve these times in order to win the 6 rally series.

Well, I'm more than sure, as I have usually over a minute of a lead (often close or more than 2 minutes) on the second player in Masters difficulty when using fully upgraded cars. And I'm using a gamepad here. The only location where AI truly can give you a run for your money is Monte Carlo. Every other country is just a matter of doing a clean run. If you have issues with AI on masters, that means you have a long way to go until you'll be getting a clean run.
By clean I don't mean driving at a snail pace to avoid hitting anything. Generally driving at 80-90% of the "limit", so you have more than enough control over the car to be able to save any unexpected situation but still driving at a speed where you're forced to hammer the throttle down. In short, you brake a bit sooner than when pushing, sometimes you brake at spots you wouldn't brake, sometimes you don't use full throttle, but most of the time you're still going full power.
In short... git gud.

[KK78 9]

Good to see that ego is alive and well.

Shame it helps no one  :D