Thrustmaster Wheel Workaround

[DirtyDubs 0]

Doesn't change gameplay for me at all. I drive at 378 degrees anyway (35%) so it's not much different. The real problem is the force feedback. The partial 'workaround' might be ok for some but pretty useless for me.

[Alexdizz 0]

Ok, I'm glad Iv found this forum as i have been enjoying dirt rally for a few months now with my t300 !! Since the update it's ruined my steering Iv tryed everything even your troubleshooting (hold mode and right button at same time) feels better ,but still doesn't feel the same :( ! How is this Guna get resolved have we jus Gota sit n wait ?? Ps4

[madwak 0]

Alexdizz said:

Ok, I'm glad Iv found this forum as i have been enjoying dirt rally for a few months now with my t300 !! Since the update it's ruined my steering Iv tryed everything even your troubleshooting (hold mode and right button at same time) feels better ,but still doesn't feel the same :( ! How is this Guna get resolved have we jus Gota sit n wait ?? 

Have you tried turning everything off and switching the T300 to PS3 mode and then play the game like that? I've just tried my T500 (doesn't have ps4 mode) again after my ps4 has just done a system update and my ffb is amazing far better than it's ever been, not quite sure what's caused it as I also tried another workaround and I'm still trying to work out what's solved it?

[Decks 342]

From what I can gather there are 2 people working on the game at the moment. Dave wrote the original patch on his BBC Micro. Tony was taping the charts off the radio on Sunday and he accidentally taped over the cassette the patch was stored on unfortunately. 

Dave has put a couple of hours of overtime in this week to get the new patch written up put he's had to start from scratch and he's not very good at typing so delays are expected. Please understand that they are working on it though and hope to have an update for us soon. 

[Alexdizz 0]

Ok I will try this at some point 2nite!!! I can't believe this kind of thing has even happened . Is this what we have to look forward too for future driving games on ps4 !! Finding out solutions on a bloody forum (ps4 Sony codemasters thrustmaster) complete joke !! Absolute joke the money we have all spent 

[madwak 0]

Alexdizz said:

Ok I will try this at some point 2nite!!! I can't believe this kind of thing has even happened . Is this what we have to look forward too for future driving games on ps4 !! Finding out solutions on a bloody forum (ps4 Sony codemasters thrustmaster) complete joke !! Absolute joke the money we have all spent 

I've just connected my T300 up to my ps4 again and the ffb appears to be working as it should now. It's now better than it's ever been and I'm well happy, just need Codies to fix the DOR problem now and let us have access to all the ffb settings again - luckily I'd saved a profile with everything turned up to max :smiley:

[Alexdizz 0]

Did u switch it on PS3 mode or ps4 mode !? On ur t300 ?? Ok so can u explain again wot u suggest I do sorry ?? Thanks mate ? 

[Decks 342]

What are you talking about,  it's still completely broken? 

[madwak 0]

I forgot to mention my PS4 just did a new system update and I reckon that's what's fixed my ffb :smile:

[Decks 342]

I've had the update, nothing has changed. 

[madwak 0]

Deckard2014 said:

I've had the update, nothing has changed. 

The steering is still wrong but the ffb has dramatically improved with everything set at max?

[madwak 0]

Alexdizz said:

Did u switch it on PS3 mode or ps4 mode !? On ur t300 ?? Ok so can u explain again wot u suggest I do sorry ?? Thanks mate

I've just tried it on both settings and they both work? 

[Alexdizz 0]

Yeah my system updated too !! Wot does ffb mean ?  It does even function if it's set on PS3 mode !! 

[Alexdizz 0]

.................Does NOT function I ment :( (FORCE FEEDBK) I understand now ha 

[Alexdizz 0]

Naa it's stil not the same as before !!! I really don't wona reset the whole game !! Iv got so far into the game raaaaaaaahhh !! Strange how your t300 works but mine don't 

[madwak 0]

Deckard2014 said:

I've had the update, nothing has changed. 

The first thing I did tonight before turning my ps4 on was connect my T500 to my laptop and run the thrustmaster control panel program, I changed the setting that tells the program to control the wheel self centering and not the game. I then reconnected to the ps4 and turned everything on, the ps4 then said a system update needed to be done which I let it do. Then I started dirt and manually locked the DOR using the wheel buttons to 360 degrees and proceeded to play the game and as if by magic my ffb was now acting as it should, there was resistance when turning and opposite force when the back end stepped out, I could feel all the bumps and the steering went light when accelerating and heavier when when slowing down, it also went light when spinning the wheels in a front wheel drive car.
 Up until now I've had virtually no resistance when turning and the forces have only started to kick in when the back end starts to step out or going over bumps. I then connected to the laptop again and changed the setting back to let the game control the centering again, tried the game again and everything is still working as it should be.
Somebody on another forum has suggested that the thrustmaster control panel program only controls the settings when using the wheel on a PC and nothing is stored in the wheel, so I went back into the program and reduced all the feedback settings to zero to confirm that fact and tried it again on the ps4 - everything still worked ok so he's probably right? 
So to conclude, something that I've done or Sony has done has made my ffb work much better than it ever has done :smile:

[Alexdizz 0]

Ok I think Iv sorted it now !! I done the hold mode and right button etc etc till red light flashes twice !! Adjusted these settings !! Steering sensitivity 100 . Linearity 0 deadzone 0% saturation 45% . I played around with the saturation  . Seems better 

[madwak 0]

Alexdizz said:

Ok I think Iv sorted it now !! I done the hold mode and right button etc etc till red light flashes twice !! Adjusted these settings !! Steering sensitivity 100 . Linearity 0 deadzone 0% saturation 45% . I played around with the saturation  . Seems better 

My saturation is set at 100 and my steering is perfect?

[Spacepadrille 28]

 I did the PS4 update, after that I did a rebuilt of the PS4 database.
My T300 is now great , but I have to put it on (I presume) 345° (2 blinks led). I use controller to make presets and it works really fine :-)

It's good to play again !

[MarkSkid 0]

Man? Did the question mark fairy? Visit in the night??

[Blinket80 2]

I paid 150 € for T300RS and 60 euro for DIRT......not to mention PS4.....and I must spend my time searching in the forum??????THEY must solve the problem...THEY......

[HattoriCY 0]

The game was so good before the patch. I have a t500rs on ps4. I did this temporary fix by reducing the degrees, but is way worse compare to prepatch.

The sad thing is now almost a week and still no fix :(

[Zalex 0]

Yesterday I deleted the game, it fix all the T300 problems untill a patch is out. ;)

[Revhead1000 0]

madwak said:

Deckard2014 said:

A touch passive aggressive for somebody representing a company wouldn't you say? 

To call it a workaround would suggest that the controls were passable with those settings, which they aren't. I realise that you haven't been able to test them though given that no one in codemasters owns a PS4 apparently. 

That workaround was to fix the problem with the steering not the ffb, I've just gone and got a G29 to see what supposedly correct ffb actually feels like because my t300 and t500 feel nothing like what they do when playing Pcars compared to dirt rally.

Update - The ffb on the G29 isn't much different to the T300/500 :neutral:

To be fair the FFB in Pcars isn't that good, its mostly just resistance with little information, will Dirt rally gives good info but a weak signal.

[Spacepadrille 28]

Revhead1000 said:

To be fair the FFB in Pcars isn't that good, its mostly just resistance with little information, will Dirt rally gives good info but a weak signal.

I think you missed something, PCars FFB is incredibly complex, complete and detailed, but you need to tweak it fine (it took me 6 months !).