DiRT Rally 2 - Expectations

[versedi 39]

1. Tarmac. Recreate it from scratch. Make the FFB work on it without changing it every rally where surface change.
2. Service Area - the % is not really a good solution for the fixes plus it's a bit bugged in some cases. I think replacing whole parts would be much better. How can I fix 50% of the wheels? Sorry, but this is too arcadish.
3. Rally PVP / Rally Championship [MP] / Rally Leagues (as are now but with presets defined or saveable in your profile) + CREST enabled for them as well as all other multiplayer events. 
4. Proper anticheat system and PERM banning anyone who's detected. If he's detected with another account - automatic another PERM. We need to get rid of cheaters, they'll always cheat.
5. More rally locations with more stages.
6. More time / weather combinations or make it freely to choose a time + weather not combined in one option.
7. Motion blur as separate option, as well as few other that are currently combined in Shader option.
8. Optional Hardcore Damage level which would be also playable in Online Events.
9. Replay system with freecamera and replay saving/playing in-game.
10. Better leaderboards, maybe some TIER system so all players wouldn't be on one leaderboard (there could be a second one Global).
    
    And here goes some that are pretty much impossible, but why not:
11. Terrain deformation.
12. Tyre wear.
13. Staggered starts (at least in SP).
14. Dynamic weather (changes during the stage)
15. Toyota :D

[RyuMakkuro 6]

chukonu said:

- No intrusive DRM like Denuvo please

First, Denuvo is not a DRM (it's known as anti-tamper, Steam is the DRM), second it's not intrusive at all (the claims about SSD life being degraded are pure BS).
I personally would like for next DiRT title to have Denuvo, because that would mean more profit due to a lot less pirating of the game. More profit = longer support.

[amigoPL 0]

Didzis said:

• Rally PVP, where you can race each other at the same time - ghost mode.
  

+1

[JZStudios 631]

Gymkhana?                                                   

[shadow118 18]

JZStudios said:

Gymkhana?                                                   

I wouldn't mind if it was a side activity

[bogani 756]

I still would like to have a test area. Let's say you have a big paved parking lot connected to one of the RX tracks with a service car/tent. You can play around on the asphalt and even do a few laps on the RX track. 

[Porkhammer 78]

Didzis said:

JZStudios said:

Gymkhana?                                                   

I wouldn't mind if it was a side activity

[ALF 8]

Something that i'd like to see added to Leaderboards, and i don't see this in any kind of game ( at least that i've noticed ), is a Filter by Country. Doesn't every Player has theirs Country Flag on the Leaderboards already? Put this to some use. I'd like to know / check who's the best British , Portuguese, Spanish, French, etc, etc, Players.

To turn the things even more competitive, this Leaderboard should be the total time of an ( separated? ) Online Event / Competiton. This way we could know who's really the best one of each Country. In the end, it could evem be a Leaderboard, or competiton between the best of each Country, or the 3 best, between each other to find the best Player(s) of the game.

Of course, without a proper anti-cheat, all this, or any kind of Leaderboard / Competition, it would be useless... Codies really need to find a way to keep cheaters out of any Leaderboard, this should be top priority, for next game.

[RyuMakkuro 6]

Alf72 said:

Something that i'd like to see added to Leaderboards, and i don't see this in any kind of game ( at least that i've noticed )

It's in Forza. Now you've noticed :p

[JZStudios 631]

Porkhammer said:

Didzis said:

JZStudios said:

Gymkhana?                                                   

I wouldn't mind if it was a side activity

[enamel 0]

RyuMakkuro said:

chukonu said:

- No intrusive DRM like Denuvo please

First, Denuvo is not a DRM (it's known as anti-tamper, Steam is the DRM), second it's not intrusive at all (the claims about SSD life being degraded are pure BS).
I personally would like for next DiRT title to have Denuvo, because that would mean more profit due to a lot less pirating of the game. More profit = longer support.

Agreed, but it does do a "phone home" to validate, which could be a real problem when it comes archival. For a game like 'Inside' that is an amazing piece of art, I think this is a real issue. Since it was cracked in 6 weeks, maybe that is the best of both worlds. The devs get the protection for the most important time span of the game launch, then crackers come in to defeat the anti-tamper so the game can be played long after there are no servers to phone home to.

[RyuMakkuro 6]

enamel said:
Agreed, but it does do a "phone home" to validate, which could be a real problem when it comes archival. For a game like 'Inside' that is an amazing piece of art, I think this is a real issue. Since it was cracked in 6 weeks, maybe that is the best of both worlds. The devs get the protection for the most important time span of the game launch, then crackers come in to defeat the anti-tamper so the game can be played long after there are no servers to phone home to.

Weren't it a "phone home" to Steam servers? In that case archival isn't an issue... well, at least not immediate. Can't imagine Steam going down like... in our lifetime?

[shadow118 18]

RyuMakkuro said:

chukonu said:

- No intrusive DRM like Denuvo please

First, Denuvo is not a DRM (it's known as anti-tamper, Steam is the DRM), second it's not intrusive at all (the claims about SSD life being degraded are pure BS).
I personally would like for next DiRT title to have Denuvo, because that would mean more profit due to a lot less pirating of the game. More profit = longer support.

How is that more profit? Just because people can't pirate it won't mean they're going to buy it. Some people use pirating as a demo and buy the games, if they like them, and those who don't, wouldn't have bought the game anyway.
I wouldn't like DiRT to have Denuvo. Make a good game and it will sell. Look at Witcher 3, no DRM at all

[RyuMakkuro 6]

Didzis said:
How is that more profit? Just because people can't pirate it won't mean they're going to buy it. Some people use pirating as a demo and buy the games, if they like them, and those who don't, wouldn't have bought the game anyway.

I wouldn't like DiRT to have Denuvo. Make a good game and it will sell. Look at Witcher 3, no DRM at all

Well, you forgot about the part that has money yet will pirate it not for demo sake. That portion will provide income that otherwise wouldn't. Of course good game will sell... which doesn't mean that making it anti-pirated for few months or weeks won't help with it. Those that "demo" the pirate versions and buy the game after... will just buy the game at a later time. However that portion of people is growing smaller and smaller. Also apparently Denuvo is really helping with the game sales. If I'll find the article that I read that about I'll link it here (as an edit).

The best solution is Denuvo + Demo. Shouldn't be that difficult to release one or two short stages as a demo with two different cars. Enough to make a decision about the purchase. Even the "super high quality" products such as SLRE and WRC 5 have it (although it definitely didn't help with sales xD ).

[dgeesi0 305]

well maybe encoding stuff not to be messed with would help with the cheaters.

F1 2016 just come out multiple hacks out already and trainers. im hoping that anticheat procedures get the priority that is should have.

[shadow118 18]

RyuMakkuro said:

Well, you forgot about the part that has money yet will pirate it not for demo sake. That portion will provide income that otherwise wouldn't.

I didn't but probably could've been clearer. I meant that those who don't use pirating just as a demo (as in who just pirate the game) wouldn't by the game anyway, money or no money.
Also, aren't developers  paying huge sums to put stuff like denuvo in the game?

[RyuMakkuro 6]

Didzis said:
I didn't but probably could've been clearer. I meant that those who don't use pirating just as a demo (as in who just pirate the game) wouldn't by the game anyway, money or no money.

Also, aren't developers  paying huge sums to put stuff like denuvo in the game?

Well, if you didn't bought the game... you shouldn't be playing it. Great game deserves to be bought and if someone isn't willing to do even that when they can... they don't deserve to play it.

From what I know it's either 100k€ up front or 0,15€ per copy sold. It's according to Denuvo devs easy to implement as well.

[JZStudios 631]

All I'm going to toss in is, I would've loved to buy DiRT and DiRT2, but since neither one is actually for sale anymore... and DiRT doesn't work on Win7... I found alternatives. That being said, beyond that and RBR, which I wasn't impressed with honestly, everything else is legit. And I bought D3 and DR.. so it equals out right?

[shadow118 18]

RyuMakkuro said:

Well, if you didn't bought the game... you shouldn't be playing it. 

A lot of things shouldn't happen, but they do

JZStudios said:

All I'm going to toss in is, I would've loved to buy DiRT and DiRT2, but since neither one is actually for sale anymore... and DiRT doesn't work on Win7... I found alternatives. That being said, beyond that and RBR, which I wasn't impressed with honestly, everything else is legit. And I bought D3 and DR.. so it equals out right?

I bought DiRT2 from Kinguin or somewhere similar, that was after you couldn't even view the Store page for it on Steam. Got it as a Steam key, activated just fine and works (just also needs GFWL)
I'm pretty sure I had DiRT running back on Windows 7, and I definately had it running on Windows 10 just a few months ago. 

[RyuMakkuro 6]

Didzis said:
I'm pretty sure I had DiRT running back on Windows 7, and I definately had it running on Windows 10 just a few months ago. 

^This.
Also bought DiRT 2 from I believe G2A about a year back. Both Kinguin and G2A at this point are unfortunately selling stolen keys, but not much you can do when only they have the keys... Both games work perfectly fine though (DiRT 2 runs at 60FPS at 4K on highest settings on my good ol' GTX670)

Didzis said:

A lot of things shouldn't happen, but they do

Yes, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't try stopping that from happening. DRM like the older stuff, yeah, that's bad. Stuff that effectively breaks games and doesn't allow you to play it, that should never happen. But anti-tamper like Denuvo which only ensures that the piracy won't happen for the first few weeks? All in for that especially since it's non intrusive and you can play the games offline.

[ALF 8]

RyuMakkuro said:

Alf72 said:

Something that i'd like to see added to Leaderboards, and i don't see this in any kind of game ( at least that i've noticed )

It's in Forza. Now you've noticed :p

Never played Forza or GT, that's why i never noticed. In fact, i never owned a console, apart of a Sega Mega Drive 16 bit ( if you consider this as a console ) back in late 80's / early 90's, when i was a kid. I've always been part of #PcMasterRace =P

[JZStudios 631]

Didzis said:

RyuMakkuro said:

Well, if you didn't bought the game... you shouldn't be playing it. 

A lot of things shouldn't happen, but they do

JZStudios said:

All I'm going to toss in is, I would've loved to buy DiRT and DiRT2, but since neither one is actually for sale anymore... and DiRT doesn't work on Win7... I found alternatives. That being said, beyond that and RBR, which I wasn't impressed with honestly, everything else is legit. And I bought D3 and DR.. so it equals out right?

I bought DiRT2 from Kinguin or somewhere similar, that was after you couldn't even view the Store page for it on Steam. Got it as a Steam key, activated just fine and works (just also needs GFWL)
I'm pretty sure I had DiRT running back on Windows 7, and I definately had it running on Windows 10 just a few months ago. 

I don't remember if it crashed when I tried starting a race or if it just didn't save the game, either way it didn't work for me which is a bummer.
I'm also unsure of what the point of buying stolen steam keys is.

[shadow118 18]

JZStudios said:

I'm also unsure of what the point of buying stolen steam keys is.

Not everything there is stolen. Some keys are from cheaper regions, some are from bundles, some, unfortunately, were stolen. It is a gray market

[SkiddyMcCrash 311]

Alf72 said:

i never owned a console, apart of a Sega Mega Drive 16 bit ( if you consider this as a console ) back in late 80's / early 90's, when i was a kid. I've always been part of #PcMasterRace =P

It's a console. 4th Generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_generation_of_video_game_consoles

[chukonu 476]

RyuMakkuro said:

chukonu said:

- No intrusive DRM like Denuvo please

First, Denuvo is not a DRM (it's known as anti-tamper, Steam is the DRM), second it's not intrusive at all (the claims about SSD life being degraded are pure BS).
I personally would like for next DiRT title to have Denuvo, because that would mean more profit due to a lot less pirating of the game. More profit = longer support.

You don't make profit from including DRM.