TOO MUCH advantage for players using TC

[Woqrr 0]

Sorry but I really don´t undesrtand why on earth, Codemasters continues to help players using TC. It is really annoying.

Here is my humble proposal:

Why don´t you just REDUCE max. speed and / or acceleration, of cars using TC and ABS ???

whouldn´t it be mor fair ??

[7thGearRL 8]

Codemasters have completely ignored this or at least, given us a response.

On the beta, TC was slightly slower and not so overpowered.

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7thGearRL said:

Codemasters have completely ignored this or at least, given us a response.

On the beta, TC was slightly slower and not so overpowered.

EXACTLY, it is really dissappointing.....

Is there anyone within Codemasters Team who has NOTICED this ???

[Worntoathread 865]

TC is definitely a bit too fast, especially compared to the beta, top 20 times on the leaderboards are dominated by assists on most tracks. I'm also easily able to improve my own times with TC on.

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Worntoathread said:

TC is definitely a bit too fast, especially compared to the beta, top 20 times on the leaderboards are dominated by assists on most tracks. I'm also easily able to improve my own times with TC on.

Yeahhh I was one of those who loved to play without TC to really feel a F1 vidoegame, but with this F1 2016, it is really stupid to compete without TC on, and therefore I decided to activate the TC in order to make decent results on line .....

[SepiDN 0]

I don't understand why does it matter? Is it just about time trials?

In Career you can just adjust the difficulty to match your skill level without TC.
In online the casual races are just as described, just casual goofing around.If you want to compete join no assist league.

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SepiDN said:

I don't understand why does it matter? Is it just about time trials?

In Career you can just adjust the difficulty to match your skill level without TC.
In online the casual races are just as described, just casual goofing around.If you want to compete join no assist league.

not really; I just would like to see best times and results in those people risking themselves to run with no TC and no ABS, because someone who run with no assist should receive a reward for doing  that, don´t you think?

[Worntoathread 865]

SepiDN said:

I don't understand why does it matter? Is it just about time trials?

In Career you can just adjust the difficulty to match your skill level without TC.
In online the casual races are just as described, just casual goofing around.If you want to compete join no assist league.

There are leagues that allow assists like TC so people who can't drive without them can still participate in league racing, but if players decide they want to drive without them in these leagues they currently don't have a chance of beating the guys with TC on even if they're the faster player.

Besides that I think the game should encourage players to turn assists off; knowing you can gain time by mastering the game with no assists but currently there's no reason for TC users to try and turn it off.

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Worntoathread said:

SepiDN said:

I don't understand why does it matter? Is it just about time trials?

In Career you can just adjust the difficulty to match your skill level without TC.
In online the casual races are just as described, just casual goofing around.If you want to compete join no assist league.

There are leagues with 'lower divisions' etc that allow assists like TC so people who can't drive without them can still participate in league racing, but if players decide they want to drive without them in these leagues they currently don't have a chance of beating the guys with TC on even if they're the faster player.

Besides that I think the game should encourage players to turn assists off; knowing you can gain time by mastering the game with no assists but currently there's no reason for TC users to try and turn it off.

Worntoathread said:

SepiDN said:

I don't understand why does it matter? Is it just about time trials?

In Career you can just adjust the difficulty to match your skill level without TC.
In online the casual races are just as described, just casual goofing around.If you want to compete join no assist league.

There are leagues with 'lower divisions' etc that allow assists like TC so people who can't drive without them can still participate in league racing, but if players decide they want to drive without them in these leagues they currently don't have a chance of beating the guys with TC on even if they're the faster player.

exactly that´s the point, people who drive without TC have no change of beating those with TC, and this is completelly UNFAIR.

It should be just the other way around !! come on !!!

[ItsJordyNL 0]

Worntoathread said:

SepiDN said:

I don't understand why does it matter? Is it just about time trials?

In Career you can just adjust the difficulty to match your skill level without TC.
In online the casual races are just as described, just casual goofing around.If you want to compete join no assist league.

There are leagues with 'lower divisions' etc that allow assists like TC so people who can't drive without them can still participate in league racing, but if players decide they want to drive without them in these leagues they currently don't have a chance of beating the guys with TC on even if they're the faster player.

Besides that I think the game should encourage players to turn assists off; knowing you can gain time by mastering the game with no assists but currently there's no reason for TC users to try and turn it off.

Disagree. Some people don't have that much time to play and master racing without TC. Why need to punish those people so they're slower?

[Worntoathread 865]

ItsJordyNL said:

Disagree. Some people don't have that much time to play and master racing without TC. Why need to punish those people so they're slower?

It's not about 'punishing' people using assists. It's about not giving them an unfair advantage compared to non-assist users.

[ItsJordyNL 0]

Worntoathread said:

ItsJordyNL said:

Disagree. Some people don't have that much time to play and master racing without TC. Why need to punish those people so they're slower?

It's not about 'punishing' people using assists. It's about not giving them an unfair advantage compared to non-assist users.

Imo they don't have an unfair advantage. I use assists myself and sometimes race online against people without using assists and they're about a second faster then I am. And I'm pretty quick if I say so myself.

[SentryAlpha 0]

ItsJordyNL said:

Worntoathread said:

ItsJordyNL said:

Disagree. Some people don't have that much time to play and master racing without TC. Why need to punish those people so they're slower?

It's not about 'punishing' people using assists. It's about not giving them an unfair advantage compared to non-assist users.

Imo they don't have an unfair advantage. I use assists myself and sometimes race online against people without using assists and they're about a second faster then I am. And I'm pretty quick if I say so myself.

If they had assists on, then they'd still beat you regardless so that can't be an argument. 

[SepiDN 0]

Worntoathread said:

SepiDN said:

I don't understand why does it matter? Is it just about time trials?

In Career you can just adjust the difficulty to match your skill level without TC.
In online the casual races are just as described, just casual goofing around.If you want to compete join no assist league.

There are leagues with 'lower divisions' etc that allow assists like TC so people who can't drive without them can still participate in league racing, but if players decide they want to drive without them in these leagues they currently don't have a chance of beating the guys with TC on even if they're the faster player.

Besides that I think the game should encourage players to turn assists off; knowing you can gain time by mastering the game with no assists but currently there's no reason for TC users to try and turn it off.

Why should it encourage players to turn assits off? It's about how you want to play the game. I play without assits myself and haven't really played any other racing game for ages, but I think people that don't want to learn assist should be able to compete just like players without assists.

Leaderboards do have people within tenths of people using assist and not using those so it's clearly possible to beat assist users?
The reason to turn TC off is to challenge yourself / join a league with no assists. It's stupid league policy if it allows assists when majority wants no assists. IMO your mindset is set to "hardcore" gamer mindset. I play ALOT myself aswell but I do understand that people with less time should be able to enjoy the game just like I do.

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I do understand your viewpoint and I think there just should be more clear way to find no assist lobbys and different top times just so you can see your efforts for learning the game worth it more.

[cheech219360 0]

iv tested this myself im much faster without tc then with tc. however i see it this way fast is fast no matter if you use assists or not.

[ItsJordyNL 0]

SentryAlpha said:

ItsJordyNL said:

Worntoathread said:

ItsJordyNL said:

Disagree. Some people don't have that much time to play and master racing without TC. Why need to punish those people so they're slower?

It's not about 'punishing' people using assists. It's about not giving them an unfair advantage compared to non-assist users.

Imo they don't have an unfair advantage. I use assists myself and sometimes race online against people without using assists and they're about a second faster then I am. And I'm pretty quick if I say so myself.

If they had assists on, then they'd still beat you regardless so that can't be an argument. 

So, you're saying I'm bad? On F1 2015 I was in top 30 Leaderboards on Australia and on almost all other tracks in top 100 as well. Not bragging, it's a fact.

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Worntoathread said:

ItsJordyNL said:

Disagree. Some people don't have that much time to play and master racing without TC. Why need to punish those people so they're slower?

It's not about 'punishing' people using assists. It's about not giving them an unfair advantage compared to non-assist users.

YES YES YES YES PLEASE CODEMASTERS READ THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[imupat 0]

I use assists and don't understand why people have a problem with it. If you are playing offline you can choose the AI diffculty as desired to match your assists/competency against AI. In multiplayer mode only choose lobbies where your desired assists/no assists are available. It is as simple as that. TT - it clearly tells who is using assists or no asists to set a laptime!!

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imupat said:

I use assists and don't understand why people have a problem with it. If you are playing offline you can choose the AI diffculty as desired to match your assists/competency against AI. In multiplayer mode only choose lobbies where your desired assists/no assists are available. It is as simple as that. TT - it clearly tells who is using assists or no asists to set a laptime!!

no problem at all,  if you want to use assists then, all we are saying is that your car should run less, that´s all. nothing else.

[Worntoathread 865]

ItsJordyNL said:

Imo they don't have an unfair advantage. I use assists myself and sometimes race online against people without using assists and they're about a second faster then I am. And I'm pretty quick if I say so myself.

I think you can only really compare if you try the difference for yourself instead of comparing with other players. I tried doing a couple of TT laps with traction control on, and I was immediately quicker from the first lap, even though I have good pace without assists, so I'd say it definitely does give you an unfair advantage.  

I also want to explain that I have absolutely no problem with TC being competitive and helping people who don't have the time for a lot of practice, that's what it's for, just as long as it's well balanced for online racing.

[SentryAlpha 0]

ItsJordyNL said:

SentryAlpha said:

ItsJordyNL said:

Worntoathread said:

ItsJordyNL said:

Disagree. Some people don't have that much time to play and master racing without TC. Why need to punish those people so they're slower?

It's not about 'punishing' people using assists. It's about not giving them an unfair advantage compared to non-assist users.

Imo they don't have an unfair advantage. I use assists myself and sometimes race online against people without using assists and they're about a second faster then I am. And I'm pretty quick if I say so myself.

If they had assists on, then they'd still beat you regardless so that can't be an argument. 

So, you're saying I'm bad? On F1 2015 I was in top 30 Leaderboards on Australia and on almost all other tracks in top 100 as well. Not bragging, it's a fact.

Not trying to be offensive but if they're a second faster than you, then to them you're bad. A second is a lot of time loss per lap.

I'm saying that you're not as good as them so you can't go and make a statement comparing you and them. 

[Swift747 26]

Woqrr said:

Sorry but I really don´t undesrtand why on earth, Codemasters continues to help players using TC. It is really annoying.

Here is my humble proposal:

Why don´t you just REDUCE max. speed and / or acceleration, of cars using TC and ABS ???

whouldn´t it be mor fair ??

Because it's an arcade game, not a sim. 

[Woqrr 0]

Swift747 said:

Woqrr said:

Sorry but I really don´t undesrtand why on earth, Codemasters continues to help players using TC. It is really annoying.

Here is my humble proposal:

Why don´t you just REDUCE max. speed and / or acceleration, of cars using TC and ABS ???

whouldn´t it be mor fair ??

Because it's an arcade game, not a sim. 

Not sure this answer will like Codemasters :-)

[vidiv007 0]

As someone said in another post the other day, the whole point of TC is to make the car easier to drive by not spinning the tires so it follows logic that you can go faster. Personally I drive with no assists on a pad and am fine if people use aids to make the drive easier and hence are faster

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vidiv007 said:

As someone said in another post the other day, the whole point of TC is to make the car easier to drive by not spinning the tires so it follows logic that you can go faster. Personally I drive with no assists on a pad and am fine if people use aids to make the drive easier and hence are faster

Thanks god the Olimpics don't share your point of view