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Need help Codemasters! And CM community. There just is NOT 2 seconds to make up on this lap!!

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Hey guys. Especially codemasters. There is something wrong. Ive posted here a lap i did with super softs, rich fuel mix etc. No assists using wheel on PS4. Im still 2 seconds off team mate. 
There just isn't 2 seconds to be found in the lap i did. Surely others are finding similar? If a lap like this one can not get within a second (which is still so much) of a team mate then something isn't right. 
All the people who are going to say i just am not good...really? C'mon, this lap is ok. There's no way theres 2 seconds to be found here. my time was a 1:28.6
any tips etc would be helpful...although i still reckon there isn't much more to be done. and yes i spent hours on this setup. It's maxed. 

https://splice.gopro.com/v?id=G6r4rOD1b

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1:28.6 in a Red Bull isn't that competitive for ultimate AI and its certainly possible to out qualify them round Albert Park. Although your driving line is good you're making a fundamental mistake which is rotating the steering wheel way too much. For example, turn 1 its almost 180 degrees. Try turning your wheel to 90 degrees max and you'll notice that you'll suddenly have more grip and this could probably give you a good chunk of laptime back.

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1:28.6 in a Red Bull isn't that competitive for ultimate AI and its certainly possible to out qualify them round Albert Park. Although your driving line is good you're making a fundamental mistake which is rotating the steering wheel way too much. For example, turn 1 its almost 180 degrees. Try turning your wheel to 90 degrees max and you'll notice that you'll suddenly have more grip and this could probably give you a good chunk of laptime back.
Thanks for the advice JB. I see where you are coming from but if i don't there is just understeer. Also, if i did over-rotate then it would result in traction loss which isn't happening as the back end would definitely step out and as you can see my accelerator is planted at these points. 

And you're exactly right. 1:28.6 with redbull is terrible at albert park. Even on legendary it is terrible. exactly why ive posted this. Because for that kind of a lap it is ridiculous.
But thanks for tip, i will try anything as this is getting ludicrous!

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There is so much time to be gained here.The first thing I noticed was your lifting and coasting in the breaking zones that is losing you time in all the corners,try to be more aggressive and attack the corners,spending as little time off throttle as possible.Also your exit out of the last corner to begin the lap was too wide stay closer to the inside kerb you can get on full throttle earlier,that would of cost you time all the way down the straight.

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thanks speeddemon. im breaking so late though. all my breaking points are later than a lot of what i have seen of others who post faster lap times. 
I agree there may be time to be gained but not 2 seconds. it would be understandable if it were maybe 0.4-0.7 but 2 seconds no way. My breaking points are pretty late. 
also last turn to begin lap was wide but maybe 0.2-0.3 max. it is not a long straight and i almost max 8th gear before i hit turn 1. 

but thanks for tips. again ill try employ them.
could you post examples of your turning in albert park? i feel i break real late and ease off so that i dont understeer breaking too hard through turn, then wait to pick up the throttle when the car is a little straighter otherwise itll just throw the back end out.
if i seem resistant, have a look at some faster lap times etc that people have posted. They drive exactly the same, if anything, they break earlier.

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Problem 1 is you're running too much fuel. You have more than 7 laps, that's going to cost you a few tenths on weight alone. You might find the car more stable and have more confidence on the throttle if you drop some of that weight, which will also find you more time. If you're going for pure lap time you should have no more than 3 laps as you start your flying lap.

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Its very track dependent. Plus the race pace will be worse for the AI comparatively, you'll pass five into turn 1, five into turn 3 and be about where you expected to qualify. 

You'll be  much closer on other tracks if not ahead.

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Ok cool. Thanks guys. Will try it all. :smile:
may post result video if I improve 

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i can guarantee you there is multiple seconds left in that lap, I've managed a 26.3 in a Toro Rosso. Remember slow in fast out. The trick is to get on the power as close to the apex as possible so you can propel your car down towards the next corner. Also try to make your corner exits as straight as possible to minimize wheel spin. Short shift out of the corners to get some added traction as it doesn't cost you much in terms of lap time shifting up quickly through the shorter gears. Braking late is great if you can get it slowed down in time to clip the apex and aren't compromising the line. Just remember a bad exit hurts more than a slow entry into the corner. 

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Hulk said:
thanks speeddemon. im breaking so late though. all my breaking points are later than a lot of what i have seen of others who post faster lap times. 
I agree there may be time to be gained but not 2 seconds. it would be understandable if it were maybe 0.4-0.7 but 2 seconds no way. My breaking points are pretty late. 
also last turn to begin lap was wide but maybe 0.2-0.3 max. it is not a long straight and i almost max 8th gear before i hit turn 1. 

Hi Hulk, as already mentioned, keep in mind that 'slow in, fast out' is the magic formula to achieve fast laptimes. When going into a turn and you break late, you only gain time during the approx 100 meters of breaking. When exiting the turn, you can gain time during the whole length of the following straight if you hit an optimal exit. Breaking too late will result in missing the correct apex/angle, even if its just by a few centimeters which will hurt your laptime until you reach the next breaking zone. Albert Park has quite a few turns where a perfect exit line is much more important than breaking late for the entry. 

And 2 seconds isnt that much on a track with 16 turns, thats just a bit more than 1 tenth of a second per turn, which can easily be achieved by perfecting turn entry/exit :)


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Which session is that? If it's FP 1/2/3, don't worry.

I'm 99% that there's some kind of a glitch in FPs as for the AIs the track is well rubbered-in while it is green for the player. As time progresses, things get equal and everything's ok in Q & R. 

Also, there's time to be found on your lap time as well. Your lines could be a bit more flowing and the braking should be more aggressive. On top of the that with that driving style (full lock in pretty much every corner) I forsee A LOT of troubles with the tyres during the race. 

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I'm by no means a quick driver or using no assists, and I've never liked Albert Park, but to me it looks like certain corners there is a lot more lock on the wheel than I use. Look at turn 1 and turn 11 for example, almost full lock. Also turn the camera movement off, it's surprising how much of a difference that makes to how you feel in the braking zones. 

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good tips there, thanks.
(wrong place for it but on ebay someone is selling 10 years each of F1 races,  84-94 and 94-04 - expensive though at $1760 per stack of dvds for each 10 years).

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Hulk said:
Hey guys. Especially codemasters. There is something wrong. Ive posted here a lap i did with super softs, rich fuel mix etc. No assists using wheel on PS4. Im still 2 seconds off team mate. 
There just isn't 2 seconds to be found in the lap i did. Surely others are finding similar? If a lap like this one can not get within a second (which is still so much) of a team mate then something isn't right. 
All the people who are going to say i just am not good...really? C'mon, this lap is ok. There's no way theres 2 seconds to be found here. my time was a 1:28.6
any tips etc would be helpful...although i still reckon there isn't much more to be done. and yes i spent hours on this setup. It's maxed. 

https://splice.gopro.com/v?id=G6r4rOD1b
Theres no lap time to gain ? Im 3 seconds faster than you with McLaren in Career mode.Watch thread the "how to be fast".

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these comments are great guys. It is a great thread. 
also this is to all the wheel players out there. But majority of the problem is now solved. 
As many people saw there was steering lock throughout. I would understeer otherwise. but it was the wheel calibration that was at fault. i reset it all and made sure no sensitivity was on the wheel. Because when i would lock, if i had traction assist, even moderate, the system would kill the power to allow the car to turn with full lock but without back end stepping out. So its like i was always running an engine with 50-100BHP less! 
Cant believe i didn't fix that earlier. my times instantly were so much faster. came 3rd on legend difficulty; only behind the mercedes
Still toro rosso doing low 1:26s! thats amazing.

Thanks for all the help guys! 

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Hulk said:
Hey guys. Especially codemasters. There is something wrong. Ive posted here a lap i did with super softs, rich fuel mix etc. No assists using wheel on PS4. Im still 2 seconds off team mate. 
There just isn't 2 seconds to be found in the lap i did. Surely others are finding similar? If a lap like this one can not get within a second (which is still so much) of a team mate then something isn't right. 
All the people who are going to say i just am not good...really? C'mon, this lap is ok. There's no way theres 2 seconds to be found here. my time was a 1:28.6
any tips etc would be helpful...although i still reckon there isn't much more to be done. and yes i spent hours on this setup. It's maxed. 

https://splice.gopro.com/v?id=G6r4rOD1b
Theres no lap time to gain ? Im 3 seconds faster than you with McLaren in Career mode.Watch thread the "how to be fast".
Hey, if that is true that in mclaren you are doing in the 1:25's then, can you post it so we can all get tips from your driving? thanks

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Hulk said:
Hulk said:
Hey guys. Especially codemasters. There is something wrong. Ive posted here a lap i did with super softs, rich fuel mix etc. No assists using wheel on PS4. Im still 2 seconds off team mate. 
There just isn't 2 seconds to be found in the lap i did. Surely others are finding similar? If a lap like this one can not get within a second (which is still so much) of a team mate then something isn't right. 
All the people who are going to say i just am not good...really? C'mon, this lap is ok. There's no way theres 2 seconds to be found here. my time was a 1:28.6
any tips etc would be helpful...although i still reckon there isn't much more to be done. and yes i spent hours on this setup. It's maxed. 

https://splice.gopro.com/v?id=G6r4rOD1b
Theres no lap time to gain ? Im 3 seconds faster than you with McLaren in Career mode.Watch thread the "how to be fast".
Hey, if that is true that in mclaren you are doing in the 1:25's then, can you post it so we can all get tips from your driving? thanks
I'd like to point out that the fastest TT lap on xbox is a 1:23.5 in a Merc. They could easily make a Mclaren do 1:25's.

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This is a lap I did in time trial so you can use it to check racing lines, steerling lock etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szoepUFcYkg&feature=youtu.be

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This is a lap I did in time trial so you can use it to check racing lines, steerling lock etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szoepUFcYkg&feature=youtu.be

Question,
Why is that Mercedes Renault powered??

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This is a lap I did in time trial so you can use it to check racing lines, steerling lock etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szoepUFcYkg&feature=youtu.be

Question,
Why is that Mercedes Renault powered??
It isnt? That's it's normal engine noise. Maybe it's because I'm shifting quite early or something it sounds deeper.  :/

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This is a lap I did in time trial so you can use it to check racing lines, steerling lock etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szoepUFcYkg&feature=youtu.be

Question,
Why is that Mercedes Renault powered??
It isnt? That's it's normal engine noise. Maybe it's because I'm shifting quite early or something it sounds deeper.  :/
What do you do with the setup to get that much turn in particularly in s3 because that where I lose ALL of my time. 

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