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[tbtstt 2,385]

6 hours ago, tonzboher said:

Why oh why is this car not in dirt rally 2.0??🤷🏻‍♂️

It is believed that Codemasters recorded audio from this very car earlier in the year...
 

...fingers, legs, arms, everything crossed it is coming soon! 

[SkyRex 417]

47 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

It is believed that Codemasters recorded audio from this very car earlier in the year...
 

...fingers, legs, arms, everything crossed it is coming soon! 

If it really comes sometime into this game (n not just to the next DiRT title in 2 years or so), then I'd ask for someone more knowledgable to enlighten me:
http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/subaru-impreza-gc8-wrc97
According to that site, the transmission is either H- or Paddle-Shift. Which years/models did what? I've seen it's an H-Shifter in the video. But I also am looking forward to driving it sequential as it would counteract the Evo VI nicely. But if that is unrealistic, I'd stick to H, as I like to drive as a real car was also driven in the day.
So, did the S3-S5 Impreza have some H and some paddle versions and if so, which ones?

[Johnnnn 184]

Is tier 1 top 25 % or 10 %? I heard ten, it looks like ten but I want to be sure 🙂 It was my dream when I started few months back to be in tier 1 but thought it's top 25 %.

[sqdstr 107]

31 minutes ago, SkyRex said:

If it really comes sometime into this game (n not just to the next DiRT title in 2 years or so), then I'd ask for someone more knowledgable to enlighten me:
http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/subaru-impreza-gc8-wrc97
According to that site, the transmission is either H- or Paddle-Shift. Which years/models did what? I've seen it's an H-Shifter in the video. But I also am looking forward to driving it sequential as it would counteract the Evo VI nicely. But if that is unrealistic, I'd stick to H, as I like to drive as a real car was also driven in the day.
So, did the S3-S5 Impreza have some H and some paddle versions and if so, which ones?

I found this about paddle shift:

"The WRC99, introduced at the first round of the championship, featured an electronically controlled, hydraulically actuated semi-automatic transmission with a drive-by-wire throttle, allowing the cars to be shifted with steering wheel mounted paddles, similar to F1 cars.^[108] This allowed the driver to shift gears faster, and reduced the chance of dog gear wear. Due to technical difficulties, the team struggled until the season's 7th round in Argentina.^[48] However, the car helped prove much of the technology seen on later cars. Subaru was the first rally team to implement this technology, which has been used on all WRC cars until it was forbidden by the 2011 championship rules."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_World_Rally_Team#World_Rally_Car_Impreza_GC,_1997–2001

[cafe5150 245]

1 hour ago, PJTierney said:

All hail the flying boat.

 

 

🤣

[F2CMaDMaXX 505]

It must be something specific to the type of paddle shifting, as the Escort Cosworth had it too, and, disallowed in 2011? eh?

[ianism 1,316]

5 hours ago, Johnnnn said:

Is tier 1 top 25 % or 10 %? I heard ten, it looks like ten but I want to be sure 🙂 It was my dream when I started few months back to be in tier 1 but thought it's top 25 %.

it's 10%, yeah. do a daily, and then when the time is up and you get your rewards, check the results. the cutoff time for Tier 1 is exactly at the 10% mark. same thing for the AI Challenges - you need to be on the podium to get Tier 1, because there are 30 drivers.

Tier 2 is the next 25%, and Tier 4 is the bottom 25%, so Tier 3 is actually the 40% from 35 to 75.

[tbtstt 2,385]

5 hours ago, SkyRex said:

If it really comes sometime into this game (n not just to the next DiRT title in 2 years or so), then I'd ask for someone more knowledgable to enlighten me:
http://tech-racingcars.wikidot.com/subaru-impreza-gc8-wrc97
According to that site, the transmission is either H- or Paddle-Shift. Which years/models did what? I've seen it's an H-Shifter in the video. But I also am looking forward to driving it sequential as it would counteract the Evo VI nicely. But if that is unrealistic, I'd stick to H, as I like to drive as a real car was also driven in the day.
So, did the S3-S5 Impreza have some H and some paddle versions and if so, which ones?

Prodrive actually ran a semi-automatic gearbox on the Legacy, but the system was never used on stage as it was unreliable and barely faster than a manual shift. As it was classed as a automatic gearbox though, it permitted them to run a lighter flywheel, so was kept on the car. 

All the Subaru gearboxes were H-pattern, they initially tried to automate them with pneumatics (on the Legacy) before realising that was a bad idea and switching to a hydraulically controlled system.

They trialed the hydraulic semi-automatic H-pattern gearboxes late in '98 and introduced them for the '99 season (on the S5). 

[Johnnnn 184]

1 hour ago, ianism said:

it's 10%, yeah. do a daily, and then when the time is up and you get your rewards, check the results. the cutoff time for Tier 1 is exactly at the 10% mark. same thing for the AI Challenges - you need to be on the podium to get Tier 1, because there are 30 drivers.

Tier 2 is the next 25%, and Tier 4 is the bottom 25%, so Tier 3 is actually the 40% from 35 to 75.

Thanks! It was not clear but slider is too much high for anything else. I started to appear in 1st tier week ago so I was happy and didn't know it's even better 😄 My hard work pays off! I love that style of playing.

[F2CMaDMaXX 505]

21 hours ago, tonzboher said:

Why oh why is this car not in dirt rally 2.0??🤷🏻‍♂️

 

19 hours ago, PJTierney said:

Cover car of Colin McRae Rally too 🙂 

 

 

It would be an amazing entry for DR2.0 - especially after all the 2.0 reference to Colin McRae rally games etc.  Maybe try for that Legacy too!  @PJTierney see what you can drum up for us please 🙂 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 30, 2019 by F2CMaDMaXX

[bogani 756]

12 hours ago, F2CMaDMaXX said:

It must be something specific to the type of paddle shifting, as the Escort Cosworth had it too, and, disallowed in 2011? eh?

When the 1.6 lite WRC's were introduced they went back to sequential stick, banning paddle shifters. I believe paddles was allowed again 2015.

[CMHarrySemple 43]

On 9/27/2019 at 7:56 PM, UnderclassGDfan said:

Did someone get behind the scoring system in My Team Rally Career-Mode?

I did 4 events in the current championship: Got 2 wins and 2 2nd places.

2x 25 points + 2x 18 points = 86 points (FIA points rules).

But I have 114 points currently, and the runner-ups have 96, 91 and so on.

 

I...just don't get it 🤣

We don't use the FIA points scoring system for Rally. The points start at 30 for 1st place, then down in steps of 3 to 18, then steps of 2 down to 6, then single steps until 0. This allows a Rally event to sit alongside a Rallycross event in Custom or other mixed discipline championships. We use the FIA scoring for Rallycross events, which go up to 30. (16 in the Qualifiers, 6 in the Semi-Final, and a maximum of 8 from a Final)

[tbtstt 2,385]

Incidentally, if there is an early Impreza WRCar coming to DR2.0 @PJTierney, then could you please ask the team to make the most of it and attach a "No, it's not a 22B!" trophy to the car please? 

[PJTierney 4,908]

9 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

Incidentally, if there is an early Impreza WRCar coming to DR2.0 @PJTierney, then could you please ask the team to make the most of it and attach a "No, it's not a 22B!" trophy to the car please? 

"22B or not 22B? That is the Question."

[tbtstt 2,385]

46 minutes ago, PJTierney said:

"22B or not 22B? That is the Question."

"It's not a 22B. There is no Question."

[AlexMolnar 0]

Hi Guys:) I wonder if somebody could help me here. I have an issue with Dirt Rally 2.0. I did a rallycross world series time 3.15.407, but there was a connection problem with racenet(33a14c9d....) which mean I can not see my time on the Leaderboard. I did a rally run after without time(retire) but this Time I can see my result on rally Leaderboard. What is the problem? Thank you for your help.

[ianism 1,316]

1 hour ago, AlexMolnar said:

Hi Guys:) I wonder if somebody could help me here. I have an issue with Dirt Rally 2.0. I did a rallycross world series time 3.15.407, but there was a connection problem with racenet(33a14c9d....) which mean I can not see my time on the Leaderboard. I did a rally run after without time(retire) but this Time I can see my result on rally Leaderboard. What is the problem? Thank you for your help.

for the rally event... connection errors can mess up your results, especially in Community Challenges and the World Series.

for rallycross... DNFs in either rally or RX still count as participation. you get a time of 15:00 for a DNF on a short rally stage, or thirty minutes for a long one. I don't remember what it is for RX.

[UnderclassGDfan 479]

4 hours ago, CMHarrySemple said:

We don't use the FIA points scoring system for Rally. The points start at 30 for 1st place, then down in steps of 3 to 18, then steps of 2 down to 6, then single steps until 0. This allows a Rally event to sit alongside a Rallycross event in Custom or other mixed discipline championships. We use the FIA scoring for Rallycross events, which go up to 30. (16 in the Qualifiers, 6 in the Semi-Final, and a maximum of 8 from a Final)

Makes sense, just a bit confusing at first. And the rally winner doesn't get rewarded this much by just getting 3 points more than 2nd.

[carpa 303]

34 minutes ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

Makes sense, just a bit confusing at first. And the rally winner doesn't get rewarded this much by just getting 3 points more than 2nd.

In the standard FIA points the winner gets 25 points, seven more than second. Codies' points scoring system, having less gap between the different positions, is way less demanding in terms of results. For example, in the FIA system you get half the points of the winner when you come fourth (12 points). With Codies' scores, that happens when you arrive seventh (14 points) 

[UnderclassGDfan 479]

13 minutes ago, carpa said:

In the standard FIA points the winner gets 25 points, seven more than second. Codies' points scoring system, having less gap between the different positions, is way less demanding in terms of results. For example, in the FIA system you get half the points of the winner when you come fourth (12 points). With Codies' scores, that happens when you arrive seventh (14 points) 

Err...I know.

And I like the FIA system more. A win should be specially rewarded.

[Mike Dee 1,248]

1 hour ago, carpa said:

In the standard FIA points the winner gets 25 points, seven more than second. Codies' points scoring system, having less gap between the different positions, is way less demanding in terms of results. For example, in the FIA system you get half the points of the winner when you come fourth (12 points). With Codies' scores, that happens when you arrive seventh (14 points) 

Honestly I prefer this style system for clubs and stuff. Tighter points keep the battles closer and you don't have one person running away with the championship by the end of the 3rd event.

[UnderclassGDfan 479]

13 minutes ago, Mike Dee said:

Honestly I prefer this style system for clubs and stuff. Tighter points keep the battles closer and you don't have one person running away with the championship by the end of the 3rd event.

Well, yeah...I see. Probably right.

Does the clubs work different? Because I don't see 30 points given to first place there.

In our last rally in the DRChampionship first place got 14 points, so must be a complete different system 🤔

[Janneman60 154]

30 minutes ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

Well, yeah...I see. Probably right.

Does the clubs work different? Because I don't see 30 points given to first place there.

In our last rally in the DRChampionship first place got 14 points, so must be a complete different system 🤔

I think with less entrants last one gets 1 point, second last 2 points and so on. Only with a full house top one gets the 30 points.

[UnderclassGDfan 479]

7 minutes ago, Janneman60 said:

I think with less entrants last one gets 1 point, second last 2 points and so on. Only with a full house top one gets the 30 points.

But in the last 3 rallies several people got 1 point!? 🤔

I get the impression it has something to do with the distance driven or with the total time differences between players...

I don't know, I'm confused... 🤪

[ianism 1,316]

On 9/27/2019 at 9:53 AM, PJTierney said:

Some elaboration on this:

• In My Team we use an algorithm that determines event probabilities based on real-life conditions. For example, you have a greater chance of getting rain in Wales than you do in Spain.
• This algorithm will now be in use in Random and Autofill Custom Freeplay Events after 1.9, ensuring that random conditions are in line with real-life precipitation probabilities.

Hey, is there any chance the algorithm picks certain stages in certain locations more than others in My Team? I'm finding that in specific locations it tends to pick stages from one set more than the other. I can't speak on Greece or Wales yet unfortunately. but for example:

• Monte Carlo: Vallee Descendante/Route Turini and their sprint stages are far more common than Pra d'Alart/Col de Turini Descente and theirs
• Sweden: Hamra/Lysvik & sprints over Norraskoga/Ransbysater & their sprints
• Argentina: Las Juntas/Camino de la Puerta over Valle de los Puentes/inversa

After a few months playing the game and checking the stages that popped up in Monthly, Weekly and Daily Challenges as well as the Career mode, I found this to be the case with most of the base game locations (ie, all of them except for Argentina). and once I voiced my concerns about 4 months ago the imbalance seemed to go away after the next update (1.5).

I don't think it's all my head, but it could be, I guess 🙂