DiRTy Gossip about DIRT Rally Games

[DocStrangelove 165]

I created a spreadsheet?                           

• Body is 16 characters too short.

[gfRally 448]

@DocStrangelove 

this is isn't yours?  

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s1tZFkUvbdiFxlZICuhcSb4ISjz3rkd-SjrXaK-2hOU/edit#gid=0

[KevM 44]

With the SEAT, Peugeot, Ford, Subaru, VW & Citroen already onboard with Dirt Rally, it pretty much covers the 2005/2006 WRC works rally teams entirely, bar the Hyundai Accent and Skoda (who are under the VW umbrella anyway).
Mitsubishi are missing too, but 2005 seen the end of their WRC campaign (and possibly their least memorable rally car), so no biggy and Toyota were long gone at that point too!

In fact, the above list + Fiat, Opel and Mini (already in the game) would also cover all the big players in S2000/R5 fairly entirely too!

[RodgerDavies 933]

gfRally said:

So... what could we have that we have seen previously and not necessarily new.

Well, the obvious ones would be the Renaults, the A110 and the 5, but we know that situation...

Two other obvious ones would be the 207 (2x Monte winner) and Punto (4x ERC winner) from DiRT 3.

I could also see the 3 R4 cars from DiRT 3's "open" class if they can sort a Mitsubishi licence. I suspect this is the 'Evo, but not the one everyone wants' that was referred to.

However, as time progresses, I imagine there will be fewer reused assets. It makes sense that the initial cars were often from DiRT 3 whilst they worked first on the new RX models and now I expect we'll see some entirely new ones. I doubt the Impreza or Focus were reused models, most likely new ones.

[Fedemaisonnave 48]

Maybe RC2, which includes s2000, r5 and n4/r4, and also some r5 and s2000 chassis can be reused to make rc4(r2) to use as minor category

[macebig 4]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6JcgU3DDLI 
Seat Ibiza kit car was in the original.Peugeot 306 is totally new.

[BrySkye 14]

Knew the Ibiza had been in one.

Might be thinking of Sega Rally 2 and V-Rally 2 for the 306.

[DocStrangelove 165]

gfRally said:

@DocStrangelove 

this is isn't yours?  

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s1tZFkUvbdiFxlZICuhcSb4ISjz3rkd-SjrXaK-2hOU/edit#gid=0

No, I just linked that

[OttoWilson 0]

gfRally said:

Focus RS Rally 2001 - last appeared in CMR5
Impreza 2001 - last appeared in CMR4
Lancia 037 Evo 2 - last appeared in CMR5

Peugeot 205 T16 Pikes Peak - NEW
Peugeot  306 Maxi - NEW
SEAT Ibiza Kitcar - NEW

The Impreza 2001 never appeared in any of the previous games, the last WRC model to appear in any of the previous games was the (wrongly named) "22b", The newer imprezas from CMR3 until CMR2005 were all production-based (44s)
from the first DiRT to DiRT 3 you had the Gr.N Impreza N12 and the Rally America Open Class "N13" SRT USA

[Porkhammer 78]

Yeah the Subaru in CMR4 looked like crap. How anyone could mistake it for a WRC is a mystery. :D

[macebig 4]

OttoWilson said:

gfRally said:

Focus RS Rally 2001 - last appeared in CMR5
Impreza 2001 - last appeared in CMR4
Lancia 037 Evo 2 - last appeared in CMR5

Peugeot 205 T16 Pikes Peak - NEW
Peugeot  306 Maxi - NEW
SEAT Ibiza Kitcar - NEW

The Impreza 2001 never appeared in any of the previous games, the last WRC model to appear in any of the previous games was the (wrongly named) "22b", The newer imprezas from CMR3 until CMR2005 were all production-based (44s)
from the first DiRT to DiRT 3 you had the Gr.N Impreza N12 and the Rally America Open Class "N13" SRT USA







Just to be precise:There was never a N13.The Japanese thought it was unlucky to have a car numbered 13 and Prodrive went straight from N12(2006 model) to N14(2008 model).

[OttoWilson 0]

I know this :P 
BTW, better start getting some fresh gossip material now, otherwise we will enter the same discussion again (for the 999th time lol) and the thread name will need to be changed to "Rally Subaru's correct names discussion" or something

[Cortextual 146]

So I was in a call with my friend while driving though Finland and I'm pretty sure she just ruined the game for me forever...

[dwkGravey 0]

DocStrangelove said:

gfRally said:

@DocStrangelove 

this is isn't yours?  

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s1tZFkUvbdiFxlZICuhcSb4ISjz3rkd-SjrXaK-2hOU/edit#gid=0

No, I just linked that

It's mine, and I don't know why my header formulas stopped working.  :/

[Darhour 3]

That 555 update will surely shut RBR fanatic fans down.

[gfRally 448]

OttoWilson said:

I know this :P 
BTW, better start getting some fresh gossip material now, otherwise we will enter the same discussion again (for the 999th time lol) and the thread name will need to be changed to "Rally Subaru's correct names discussion" or something

we already have decals..  :wink: 

[gfRally 448]

dwkGravey said:

DocStrangelove said:

gfRally said:

@DocStrangelove 

this is isn't yours?  

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s1tZFkUvbdiFxlZICuhcSb4ISjz3rkd-SjrXaK-2hOU/edit#gid=0

No, I just linked that

It's mine, and I don't know why my header formulas stopped working.  :/

Sorry for the mix up, its a good referance.  Maybe the above mentions need to be updated on it then?

[dwkGravey 0]

gfRally said:

dwkGravey said:

DocStrangelove said:

gfRally said:

@DocStrangelove 

this is isn't yours?  

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s1tZFkUvbdiFxlZICuhcSb4ISjz3rkd-SjrXaK-2hOU/edit#gid=0

No, I just linked that

It's mine, and I don't know why my header formulas stopped working.  :/

Sorry for the mix up, its a good referance.  Maybe the above mentions need to be updated on it then?

Fixed that, and I'll go through and double-check the rest of the what-cars-appeared-in-which-games references later. Guess I should be more rigourous if others are finding the spreadsheet useful!

[RyuMakkuro 6]

dwkGravey said:

Fixed that, and I'll go through and double-check the rest of the what-cars-appeared-in-which-games references later. Guess I should be more rigourous if others are finding the spreadsheet useful!

One thing though. The Quattro that appeared in 1st, 4th and 5th Colin McRae Rally was the S1 E2, not the Sport Rallye we have here. That's a rather big difference, especially when you consider that the E2 looks like this:

[enamel 0]

I propose Coleman's Law: Every discussion on the DiRT Forums will eventually devolve into a discussion of the internal designations of Imprezas.

[BrySkye 14]

Funnily enough, the Audi Quattro is also a bit of a confusing one, but not as much as the Impreza.
Basically you have the Quattro S1 and the Quattro E2. 
There's no such thing as the Quattro S1 E2.
Really, the S1 should have been called the E1.

John Davenport wrote up a piece about it that's readable here
http://www.ableitet.no/twentyS1/s1vse2.htm

[Porkhammer 78]

Audi Quattro Season 1, Episode 2.

                

[BrySkye 14]

Porkhammer said:

Audi Quattro Season 1, Episode 2.

Think ya mean Ashes to Ashes Series 1, Episode 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmifaKiPa6M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgT1beCmlpU

[tbtstt 2,387]

BrySkye said:

Funnily enough, the Audi Quattro is also a bit of a confusing one, but not as much as the Impreza.
Basically you have the Quattro S1 and the Quattro E2. 
There's no such thing as the Quattro S1 E2.
Really, the S1 should have been called the E1.

John Davenport wrote up a piece about it that's readable here
http://www.ableitet.no/twentyS1/s1vse2.htm

Yeah, the "S1 E2" designation most rank alongside "22B" as the most misused rally car designation!

[ilchiodi 2]

BrySkye said:

Funnily enough, the Audi Quattro is also a bit of a confusing one, but not as much as the Impreza.
Basically you have the Quattro S1 and the Quattro E2. 
There's no such thing as the Quattro S1 E2.
Really, the S1 should have been called the E1.

John Davenport wrote up a piece about it that's readable here
http://www.ableitet.no/twentyS1/s1vse2.htm

Isn't the q in "quattro" written in lowercase?