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There's no way PSA will have gotten to that level with Opel yet.

Also, I think the individual elements of PSA manage their own brands. Take a look at the relative easy/difficulty CM seem to have with Peugeot compared to Citroen.

DS is indeed a separate brand now, although no idea if they use the same licencing people at Citroen. I would guess so. 

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@RodgerDavies I think you are right. If PSA would manage I don't think they would let Citroën, Peugeot and DS fight themselves in several disciplines. PSA is the governing body/structure and brands have a certain independance within. 

I have no clue how far PSA is owning Opel's assets. But if they own the brand, PSA could have some saying. 

It could be that if Codies want to license à car they go to manufacturer. If manufacturer is gouverned by a larger group, they probably need permission from the board. Depending of course on the kind of structure.

Btw I hate typing on my phone .... :#

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I will be on the cusp of buying a Oculus if D4 supports it later on.  By then I'll buy it and get screwed (as usual) and the next version will come out shortly after.  

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A little sad we lost the C4 WRC and 2010 class but the Quattro E2, Evo6, Manta 400 and R5 are great aditions! Still would have liked to see more kitcars (Megane Maxi, Citroen Saxo, Skoda Felicia, Escort Maxi) and I honestly don't mind about the R2s... would have easily traded them with a bunch of 2000s wrc cars (Corolla, Cordoba, Octavia, 206, Escort) because yes I'm a nostalgic freak XD 

But all in all, I'm really looking forward to the game, it looks veeery promising! Dreamed about a game like that since Network QRAC Rally Championship. Codemasters really understood what people want and delivered even further this time around with all the various features. So, kudos for that! 

And for godsake, where are the Toyotas and Skoda R5? ;) 

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Small question, can we completely remove the UI during replays? It would be easier to take screenshots that way.

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Teuchter said:

I'm just going to put it out there, I don't like the sound of the Fabia R5....



Oh, I agree, it sounds awful. Doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see it though; Ford v Skoda in R5 is a great rivalry at the moment.

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jayp666 said:

A little sad we lost the C4 WRC and 2010 class but the Quattro E2, Evo6, Manta 400 and R5 are great aditions! Still would have liked to see more kitcars (Megane Maxi, Citroen Saxo, Skoda Felicia, Escort Maxi) and I honestly don't mind about the R2s... would have easily traded them with a bunch of 2000s wrc cars (Corolla, Cordoba, Octavia, 206, Escort) because yes I'm a nostalgic freak XD


I'm pretty sure you meant Acona 400 :) But I disagree about the R2s, I think it's good that they're in the game, because in DiRT Rally in terms of FWDs we pretty much had the lowest end (Mini and Fulvia) and the highest end (F2 Kit Cars) and nothing in between

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Didzis said: 
I'm pretty sure you meant Acona 400 :) But I disagree about the R2s, I think it's good that they're in the game, because in DiRT Rally in terms of FWDs we pretty much had the lowest end (Mini and Fulvia) and the highest end (F2 Kit Cars) and nothing in between



Ah yes sorry my bad XD and yeah good point about the FWDs middle tier of the spectrum. Although not FWD, S1600 and S2000 cars would have been nice to have too.

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Currently, based on what we've gotten from the recent gameplay videos, the car count stands at 53 (including landrush). This lines up nicely with the "over 50" statement. As I've stated before, racing developers like to use round numbers to reveal their car lists so, if more models were included, we'd be going over 55, in which case they would have said over 55 cars in the game. I, personally, think the list we saw is final and a quite like it. I don't think we should expect more cars.

About Citroën, here's the thing: they're a pain with liveries that they don't agree with. We know this from DiRT Rally. Based on Paul's statement, that only the Audi has a livery restriction problem, it's pretty safe to say that no Citroën cars will be in the game.

As for the 206 and the Cordoba, while they seem feasible, I don't think Paul would dismiss it so strongly if they were going to be in the game. Also, the guy who stated those cars were in game played the same build that was on the Youtube videos, and that build didn't have those cars in, so he couldn't have seen them. I believe it was a genuine mistake on his part.

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Currently, based on what we've gotten from the recent gameplay videos, the car count stands at 53 (including landrush).


I've been following the confirmed car thread and other threads and making my own list and I'm getting 55

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Didzis said:





Currently, based on what we've gotten from the recent gameplay videos, the car count stands at 53 (including landrush).




I've been following the confirmed car thread and other threads and making my own list and I'm getting 55


You are right, I missed one,  it's 54 (standard), 55 (with pre-order Hyundai).

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How this didn't get posted here?
https://www.facebook.com/dirtgame/videos/1432281800177717/

An awesome story, told in even more awesome way by an awesome guy ;)

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versedi said:

How this didn't get posted here?
https://www.facebook.com/dirtgame/videos/1432281800177717/


It was, 6 pages ago: http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/comment/253855#Comment_253855

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Azoresst said:







versedi said:




How this didn't get posted here?
https://www.facebook.com/dirtgame/videos/1432281800177717/








It was, 6 pages ago: http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/comment/253855#Comment_253855








I must have missed this page somehow or was ekhm... not remembering it now.  Sorry for double posting then :P

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versedi said:

How this didn't get posted here?
https://www.facebook.com/dirtgame/videos/1432281800177717/

An awesome story, told in even more awesome way by an awesome guy ;)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWiatCUWYmM
Not sure, if thats on video, but the closiest thing to that story would be at 5:20-5:30

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By the way, @KickUp will the Focus 07 have the proper 5 gears, rather than 6 this time round?

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P308R said:

Interesting article and hmmmm


1) will we have Peugeot 206 or 307cc?

2) Heard rumor no car models from Citroen?

 

We haven’t released the official and final car list yet, so you’ll have to wait and see. ;)



That's sound's quite promising enough for me^^

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Oscar97 said:

Small question, can we completely remove the UI during replays? It would be easier to take screenshots that way.


Yes, there's a toggle in the replay options.

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urgaffel said:
Oscar97 said:

Small question, can we completely remove the UI during replays? It would be easier to take screenshots that way.

Yes, there's a toggle in the replay options.




Will we also be getting replays for Rally Cross, Landrush and the Dirt Fish area? Please say yes! :#

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Rygar86 said:j

urgaffel said:
Oscar97 said:

Small question, can we completely remove the UI during replays? It would be easier to take screenshots that way.


Yes, there's a toggle in the replay options.






Will we also be getting replays for Rally Cross, Landrush and the Dirt Fish area? Please say yes! :#


Everything but Dirtfish is a yes as far as I know. No idea about Dirtfish.

My biggest question is if there is a replay after Rallycross online!?

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bogani said:



Rygar86 said:j


urgaffel said:
Oscar97 said:

Small question, can we completely remove the UI during replays? It would be easier to take screenshots that way.



Yes, there's a toggle in the replay options.








Will we also be getting replays for Rally Cross, Landrush and the Dirt Fish area? Please say yes! :#




Everything but Dirtfish is a yes as far as I know. No idea about Dirtfish.

My biggest question is if there is a replay after Rallycross online!?


I very hope so, this is one of the ways to promote the game on the "competetive" side. 

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Completely off-topic, but...

Many pages ago, wheel stands were being discussed, and I'd like to know if a Wheelstand Pro of GT Omega wheel stand would slip and slide on wooden/laminate flooring.

On-topic: that career is looking next level. I feel like it may be a little too realistic for some people, but meh. Imma love it. And I'll also be abroad when it launches, unfortunately, :cry: .


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789ifyz said:

Completely off-topic, but...

Many pages ago, wheel stands were being discussed, and I'd like to know if a Wheelstand Pro of GT Omega wheel stand would slip and slide on wooden/laminate flooring.

On-topic: that career is looking next level. I feel like it may be a little too realistic for some people, but meh. Imma love it. And I'll also be abroad when it launches, unfortunately, :cry: 




I have a wheelstand pro for my Logitch G27 and Im using it on a wooden floor. Its very stable and does not rock or slide from side to side at all. It doesnt slide forward either but i do have the pole basically resting up against the edge of the desk so this might be a factor here. I can pull it back an inch or two nwxt time I use it and let you know if it slips forward at all under heavy breaking for instance, if you want me to?

Or are you planning at using at a desk?

Yeah, the Dirt 4 career mode looks bang tidy and has me very keen to jump in, where as I never really felt excited at all when playing career mode in Dirt Rally unfortunately :| (guess cause there basically wasnt one but you know what I mean) This new career mode though, might turn out to be one of the most satisfying and fun parts of D4  :)

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