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Here’s a thought, if Codemasters really are working on WRC 2018 and are now the official licence holders, ...do you think they’ll go for the more ‘sim-cade’ handling style of recent F1 games? or do you think they’ll go for the more ‘simulation’ focussed handling of DiRT Rally given its reception when compared to DiRT 4?

Personally I really think that if they do have the official licence then they will want to do similarly to what they’ve done with the F1 games any try to maximise the sales and appeal of the games to newcomers, meaning they’ll probably go for a more ‘sim-cade’ and approachable handling style. 
I also think that if they were to return to the more ‘simulation’ focussed approach then they could use the ‘DiRT Rally’ name as a spin off series for the more hardcore players, ie DiRT Rally 2, 3 etc
You can have like in D4 two different physics, just leave arcade physics like they were in DiRT4 and tweak Sim physics a bit (R5's and R2's are good in my opinion)

Please NO. Dirt 4 is far away from being any kind of simulator. Dirt rally is way better.

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Here’s a thought, if Codemasters really are working on WRC 2018 and are now the official licence holders, ...do you think they’ll go for the more ‘sim-cade’ handling style of recent F1 games? or do you think they’ll go for the more ‘simulation’ focussed handling of DiRT Rally given its reception when compared to DiRT 4?

Personally I really think that if they do have the official licence then they will want to do similarly to what they’ve done with the F1 games any try to maximise the sales and appeal of the games to newcomers, meaning they’ll probably go for a more ‘sim-cade’ and approachable handling style. 
I also think that if they were to return to the more ‘simulation’ focussed approach then they could use the ‘DiRT Rally’ name as a spin off series for the more hardcore players, ie DiRT Rally 2, 3 etc
You can have like in D4 two different physics, just leave arcade physics like they were in DiRT4 and tweak Sim physics a bit (R5's and R2's are good in my opinion)

Please NO. Dirt 4 is far away from being any kind of simulator. Dirt rally is way better.
I am also a big detractor of D4, but @Fedemaisonnave is right. R5s and R2s are very well done physics-wise in D4. And they are the only two classes in D4 that compete in the WRC. Please do not go back to DR floaty-no-weight-mash-gas-for-beautiful-slide-in-the-replay physics.

I do disagree that there should be split modes like D4. No use in splitting the player base between sim and arcade. Make it as sim as possible and then make it accessible to casuals with assists.

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Hmm, hello Meeke's WRC C3 in The Crew 2 (at 16:35): https://youtu.be/9Dea_09hKhI
The Crew 2 also has the Red Bull RB13 from 2017 in it too! In a series that amusingly is called Alpha Grand Prix lol

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Accro2008 said:
DiRTy gossip thread right now :

Tell me if i forgot anything.  :#
As a fan of his, I appreciate the inclusion of Craic, but am disappointed at the lack of Jeff Bridges and Kebab.
*edit, Craic and the Kebab have been adressed, but I still miss ol' Porky.

Hmm, hello Meeke's WRC C3 in The Crew 2 (at 16:35): https://youtu.be/9Dea_09hKhI
The Crew 2 also has the Red Bull RB13 from 2017 in it too! In a series that amusingly is called Alpha Grand Prix lol
All I can say about The Crew 2 is... I wouldn't look that forward to it.

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JZStudios said:
Accro2008 said:
DiRTy gossip thread right now :

Tell me if i forgot anything.  :#
As a fan of his, I appreciate the inclusion of Craic, but am disappointed at the lack of Jeff Bridges and Kebab.
*edit, Craic and the Kebab have been adressed, but I still miss ol' Porky.

Hmm, hello Meeke's WRC C3 in The Crew 2 (at 16:35): https://youtu.be/9Dea_09hKhI
The Crew 2 also has the Red Bull RB13 from 2017 in it too! In a series that amusingly is called Alpha Grand Prix lol
All I can say about The Crew 2 is... I wouldn't look that forward to it.
I picked up the first one as the free game of the month on Xbox live, and after playing it for half an hour I realised why it was free and never played it again

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just have the abolity to turn on aids would be best way to satisfy everyone , just like in all sims  nowadays

 
I’m curious to know if players of DiRT Rally that use just a controller prefferred the handling model of DiRT Rally or DiRT 4?

Good question; for 4WD stuff, probably D4 slightly, especially since the DR patch that improves the feeling on gravel but not when in the air. RWD felt infinitely better in DR to me though and this was my favourite of the lot.

D4 had issues with RWD physics IMO, but that isn't the game's main downfall. If CM had the WRC licence I wouldn't be too concerned about the physics being simplified.

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What's wrong with The Crew 2? The first one felt like a lightweight Test Drive Unlimited with a poor storyline shoehorned over it, but this one is all racing, and looks phenomenal lighting-wise.

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This does throw another spanner into the works with the wrc license. We know codemasters couldn’t get any wrc licenses cars, now the crew has a brand new c3 wrc...

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This does throw another spanner into the works with the wrc license. We know codemasters couldn’t get any wrc licenses cars, now the crew has a brand new c3 wrc...
It just shows that they can do a DiRT Rally 2 and have them, I guess. Maybe because of Ubi's budget? Or The Crew is not considered a competitor, so they allow new cars.

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I thought it was more of a competition thing. Crew 2 is clearly not a rally focused game so there wasn't much of an issue.

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Maybe the WRC Promoter's stance has changed. Maybe V-Rally 4 will have WRC cars, the next DiRT will have them too. You know, kind of like Porsche got freed from EA and then started appearing everywhere? Wishful thinking perhaps...

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This does throw another spanner into the works with the wrc license. We know codemasters couldn’t get any wrc licenses cars, now the crew has a brand new c3 wrc...
Codemasters got the Polo WRC, while it was on the WRC

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urgaffel said:
Accro2008 said:smile:
CMMcBabe said:
Where is the kebab pizza?

It was there all along !
How could i forgot it.  :#



That is a work of art


Seeing as @ChristinaMc posted this to her twitter page can we take that as soft-core proof that there’s truth in it somewhere? ;)

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This does throw another spanner into the works with the wrc license. We know codemasters couldn’t get any wrc licenses cars, now the crew has a brand new c3 wrc...
Codemasters got the Polo WRC, while it was on the WRC
I think they were advised to not make DiRT 4 too close to WRC, hence the dropping of current cars and tracks. Maybe in doing so it helped their chances of getting the license in future, who knows.

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urgaffel said:
Accro2008 said:smile:
CMMcBabe said:
Where is the kebab pizza?

It was there all along !
How could i forgot it.  :#



That is a work of art


Seeing as @ChristinaMc posted this to her twitter page can we take that as soft-core proof that there’s truth in it somewhere? ;)
Nope. But I'd still gossip on it, just for the sake of it
https://twitter.com/xtinamcf/status/997069720858705922?s=20

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Not sure how accurate the sales figures are on vgchartz.com, but it looks like WRC 7 sold just 0.03 million copies according to their stats, whereas DiRT Rally sold 0.51m and DiRT 4 sold 0.45m all on the same platform.   
Like I say I’m not sure how accurate those figures are but does make sense that the suits in charge might have considered giving another developer a go at seeing what they could do :)

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JZStudios said:
Accro2008 said:
DiRTy gossip thread right now :

Tell me if i forgot anything.  :#
As a fan of his, I appreciate the inclusion of Craic, but am disappointed at the lack of Jeff Bridges and Kebab.
*edit, Craic and the Kebab have been adressed, but I still miss ol' Porky.

Hmm, hello Meeke's WRC C3 in The Crew 2 (at 16:35): https://youtu.be/9Dea_09hKhI
The Crew 2 also has the Red Bull RB13 from 2017 in it too! In a series that amusingly is called Alpha Grand Prix lol
All I can say about The Crew 2 is... I wouldn't look that forward to it.
I picked up the first one as the free game of the month on Xbox live, and after playing it for half an hour I realised why it was free and never played it again
Eh, I don't know when it went free, but they have overhauled the entire graphics and physics systems since launch, so at least they're dedicated to it, which is cool. It's fun enough to "explore" the map, and could be fun with friends, but otherwise it's fairly lackluster and soulless.
What's wrong with The Crew 2? The first one felt like a lightweight Test Drive Unlimited with a poor storyline shoehorned over it, but this one is all racing, and looks phenomenal lighting-wise.
I will say the graphics are a bit enhanced, the load times are quicker, and a couple other neat features like switching vehicle types on the fly are present (Though I still think it would be cool to at least switch from road to dirt spec like the original Crew trailer showed) but the boats and planes don't add much. I've only played the 2 betas... or maybe one was an alpha, with a third coming up at the end of the month, but the weird physics are definitely still present, and at the time of the last beta wheel support was terrible.
TLDR: If you like the first one, go for it. Otherwise it's very much the same, just perhaps a bit more stable. 

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So I'm watching Rally de Portugal on WRC All Live, and the presenter shows the simulator area with wheels and playseats. I was waiting for them to zoom in and see WRC 7, but much to my surprise, they were playing DiRT Rally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Here is my terrible pic. Watching on my daughter's tablet and I barely got the shot off with my phone. It's DiRT Rally Finland.


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Why ever would they be using a Codemasters game? :open_mouth:

Unless it's a new version of DiRT that's about to be announced...

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Here is my terrible pic. Watching on my daughter's tablet and I barely got the shot off with my phone. It's DiRT Rally Finland.


In Portugal, DiRT Rally is very popular in the sim-racing crowd. Is this "simulator area" official or is it just something set-up by a local company as general entertainment? I wouldn't look that deep into this.

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Here is my terrible pic. Watching on my daughter's tablet and I barely got the shot off with my phone. It's DiRT Rally Finland.


In Portugal, DiRT Rally is very popular in the sim-racing crowd. Is this "simulator area" official or is it just something set-up by a local company as general entertainment? I wouldn't look that deep into this.
Well, even if it isn't an official "simulator area" I find it very interesting that they're showing footage of a competing rally title in a WRC livestream while they have their official WRC game (with eSports series still running).

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