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Alpine?  You mean the Fiat 131?                   
The one ahead of him is an Alpine

Rallystu2 said:
I thought the car behind was a fiat. But the car Infront I wasn't sure. Could be an alpine. Has smatterings of Saab about it as well but didn't get a close enough view on my mobile
There are no new cars in this class (I'm not counting the Escort as new), after the race in the standings you can see that there are the same cars that were in DiRT4 - Escort, Kadett, Alpine and 131 Abarth

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Didzis said:

There are no new cars in this class (I'm not counting the Escort as new), after the race in the standings you can see that there are the same cars that were in DiRT4 - Escort, Kadett, Alpine and 131 Abarth

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Didzis said:
Alpine?  You mean the Fiat 131?                   
The one ahead of him is an Alpine

Rallystu2 said:
I thought the car behind was a fiat. But the car Infront I wasn't sure. Could be an alpine. Has smatterings of Saab about it as well but didn't get a close enough view on my mobile
There are no new cars in this class (I'm not counting the Escort as new), after the race in the standings you can see that there are the same cars that were in DiRT4 - Escort, Kadett, Alpine and 131 Abarth
Fair. I didn't see or pay attention to the list at the end. Good spot .  I guess they're keeping all new models close to their chest.

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So here's a question, i can't remember which version of the Alpine was in DR, but i remember Paul saying it was an earlier one, not the hot one.

I thought it was just the 1600, but this one in DR2 appears to be the 1600S, about another 40bhp.

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I have a question @jonny174 , if you don't mind: I think you said that you had to practice quite a bit to get used to the sim driving of WRC 7, in order to be competitive. That, however, is not a sign of a realistic game. How much of your real techniques can you apply directly to DiRT Rally 2.0 compared to WRC 7?

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I have a question @jonny174 , if you don't mind: I think you said that you had to practice quite a bit to get used to the sim driving of WRC 7, in order to be competitive. That, however, is not a sign of a realistic game. How much of your real techniques can you apply directly to DiRT Rally 2.0 compared to WRC 7?
He said in the livestream that the techniques used for driving the real car were the same as driving them in this game suggesting it's very close to the real thing indeed. Can't remember at which point he talks about it but if you skip to where he joins the guys on the sofa you'll find it.

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I enjoyed WRC 7 a lot and defended the game lots on here, but you are right in what you are saying.  You had to ‘learn’ how to drive it.  The steering and feedback were random to say the least

DR2, like the original DiRT Rally, is very intuitive.  It’s natural.  You can pick up and play.  What helps massively, is the forces in the FFB system that both the DiRT Rally games use.  You can feel the car movements and the movements really are on the money

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Rallystu2 said:
I have a question @jonny174 , if you don't mind: I think you said that you had to practice quite a bit to get used to the sim driving of WRC 7, in order to be competitive. That, however, is not a sign of a realistic game. How much of your real techniques can you apply directly to DiRT Rally 2.0 compared to WRC 7?
He said in the livestream that the techniques used for driving the real car were the same as driving them in this game suggesting it's very close to the real thing indeed. Can't remember at which point he talks about it but if you skip to where he joins the guys on the sofa you'll find it.
I don't think he said the "techniques" were the same. 
He was asked what was more difficult. Driving a rally car in real life, or in game. He said they were both about the same level of difficulty now.

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Evilsmurf said:
Rallystu2 said:
I have a question @jonny174 , if you don't mind: I think you said that you had to practice quite a bit to get used to the sim driving of WRC 7, in order to be competitive. That, however, is not a sign of a realistic game. How much of your real techniques can you apply directly to DiRT Rally 2.0 compared to WRC 7?
He said in the livestream that the techniques used for driving the real car were the same as driving them in this game suggesting it's very close to the real thing indeed. Can't remember at which point he talks about it but if you skip to where he joins the guys on the sofa you'll find it.
I don't think he said the "techniques" were the same. 
He was asked what was more difficult. Driving a rally car in real life, or in game. He said they were both about the same level of difficulty now.
He also added that it requires the same effort to pitch the escort the way you want as in real life. So one can assume he's suggesting they handle very similarly.

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I would love to see much more “weight” and slip angle in dirt as in the car drifting from the apex with its inertia .
seems like in the vids the Escort just turns in and loses momentum way too quick .......

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you can never reproduce exactly to real life. that shouldnt be expected. close yes. sometimes we are very harsh about this. they really have put in lots of effort to dial it in. i for one was critical on some things and they have continued on and made them better. thats what you need ! people willing to go that extra step to try and bring us what we want in a sim game.

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Rallystu2 said:
Evilsmurf said:
Rallystu2 said:
I have a question @jonny174 , if you don't mind: I think you said that you had to practice quite a bit to get used to the sim driving of WRC 7, in order to be competitive. That, however, is not a sign of a realistic game. How much of your real techniques can you apply directly to DiRT Rally 2.0 compared to WRC 7?
He said in the livestream that the techniques used for driving the real car were the same as driving them in this game suggesting it's very close to the real thing indeed. Can't remember at which point he talks about it but if you skip to where he joins the guys on the sofa you'll find it.
I don't think he said the "techniques" were the same. 
He was asked what was more difficult. Driving a rally car in real life, or in game. He said they were both about the same level of difficulty now.
He also added that it requires the same effort to pitch the escort the way you want as in real life. So one can assume he's suggesting they handle very similarly.
Well in that case...
Move over Sébastien Ogier, I've arrived :sunglasses: :D

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I would love to see much more “weight” and slip angle in dirt as in the car drifting from the apex with its inertia .
seems like in the vids the Escort just turns in and loses momentum way too quick .......

I agree. I loved that aspect in dr1. Maybe this is more authentic I dunno but personally I enjoy handling a car that is always 'wanting' to move forward. That was a major gripe I had with D4.

That said it doesn't look as sudden a stop as it was in D4 and again it's probably authentic it's just we lack the sense of speed you get in a real car so it helps to have that extra bit of forward momentum or slip to deliver an authentic feel maybe.

I mean a car on dry gravel does 'bed in' and slow down alot when moving laterally under braking. But we will see how this is implemented soon. I guess the r5s will give the clearest indication of this.

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I would love to see much more “weight” and slip angle in dirt as in the car drifting from the apex with its inertia .
seems like in the vids the Escort just turns in and loses momentum way too quick .......

You have to consider the Escort, and in general all cars in that class, are very light: for example the Mk.2 rally version should weigh around 900kg

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@ChristinaMc a few questions if u're allowed to answer them please?

1) When the full car list will be revealed, could u tell us then also which cars have had their real engine sounds recorded?
2) Is the Mitsubishi Evo X still RHD or did u manage to license the LHD one?
3) Will the 1995 Impreza have the real group A interior?

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I just watch the show a 2nd time, and I'm quite excited to drive those rwd! Dirt 4 is definitely from the past now! Well done to all the team! 

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IMHO to me it looks like hes not or cant hold  a drift through the corners in that MK2 ? LIke as soon as he lifts ,the car straightens and revs drop like the drivetrain disconnects? IDK its just my observation and to me it seems weird a bit.

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Also it "turns in " with no drama and without a hint of understeer.I cant wait to try them ,and ill preorder,but im hoping for better than Dirt physics,thats all 

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 Codies have kept the details of the other locations so close to their chest. And by that I'm talking about USA . We know Argentina , Poland, New Zealand and Australia are conventional gravel stages and we know Spain is sealed surface but what of USA .I'm starting to doubt it's another gravel rally so perhaps it's a second tarmac rally? Something tells me it won't be a snow rally.

What do you lot reckon?

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Rallystu2 said:
 Something tells me it won't be a snow rally.
I actually think it very well could be the funky tarmac-ice/snow combo previously seen in Monte Carlo. I've seen footage of some rallies in the US being done during the winter, though I can't find the one I'm thinking of exactly right now.

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USA is not going to be a gravel rally. That was confirmed kind of under the radar last month:
Argentina’s, New Zealand, Poland and Australia are what we’ve got for loose surfaces. It was making sure they felt spot on, because the difference you feel between a surface in Poland which is incredibly fine, against Argentina which is incredibly heavy, we wanted to make sure that players were able to feel the differences between those two as well. So yeah, that combines very nicely.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/10/02/interview-how-dirt-rally-2-0-will-answer-the-calls-of-sim-racers/
USA is either tarmac or snow, if you don't count that as loose.

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Areyouben said:
USA is not going to be a gravel rally. That was confirmed kind of under the radar last month:
Argentina’s, New Zealand, Poland and Australia are what we’ve got for loose surfaces. It was making sure they felt spot on, because the difference you feel between a surface in Poland which is incredibly fine, against Argentina which is incredibly heavy, we wanted to make sure that players were able to feel the differences between those two as well. So yeah, that combines very nicely.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2018/10/02/interview-how-dirt-rally-2-0-will-answer-the-calls-of-sim-racers/
USA is either tarmac or snow, if you don't count that as loose.
Two things:
1 - I don't think Codemasters would ship a rally game without a snow location in the base content. Unless they intend to send a message on global warming? I still defend SnoDrift as the real-world rally that's replicated.
2 - Does anyone know of a tarmac rally in the US? I don't. If someone does, please tell me so that I can look it up. If they did a tarmac US, it would be fictional.

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