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Colin McRae name was used on Dirt series in Dirt and Dirt 2. So that is excluded following what Paul had said. And may exclude the R4 555 tribute as well.

About the Colin's Subaru livery, i don't think they would want it for 5 years. The Martini liveries that are probably coming. 

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CMR and Subies aside for the moment, anybody know anything about the availability of the PC retail version from North American vendors?  It's being released by Koch Media with the consoles in April, but . . . will it be overseas shopping again, as it was with Bandai Namco?  Game.co.uk is great, but a long ways away.

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The New Impreza R4 is coming, more than likely with Higgins 555 livery.  The car isn't the 'cool thing' approved' but almost certain the Higgins 555 and McRae's LEGENDARY liveries are.  

I still believe that the McRae family has given some approval for use of Colin in DR.  They have already given some nod for the one Ford livery with the McRae name on it.  

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Come on @gfRally That's awfully confident on the R4 ;)  Not even sure how it'd fit with the current R4 WRX.

I think the liveries are the 'one thing' that we got right, which one is obviously open to the above good speculation, and whilst it'd be very cool to get the tribute R4, i agree that it's not that which was approved, but that doesn't mean we won't.

Agreed on the McRae estate stuff.

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KickUp said:
We are fixing bugs and we are bringing these together into one big update rather than delivering them in bits and pieces. I understand your frustration but I can assure you that we have not abandoned PC in order to release console. 
I just hope that it will include fixes for the Stratos and the RS200 speedometers (and possibly switching some cars that used a digital speedometer, such as the C4 or Ogier Polo to KM/H instead of MPH) :tongue: 

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Come on @gfRally That's awfully confident on the R4 ;)  Not even sure how it'd fit with the current R4 WRX.

I think the liveries are the 'one thing' that we got right, which one is obviously open to the above good speculation, and whilst it'd be very cool to get the tribute R4, i agree that it's not that which was approved, but that doesn't mean we won't.

Agreed on the McRae estate stuff.

We don't know how many new cars will be coming in the next/last big patch :). Or if there will be DLC after that to fill in other categories.  There are a lot of possibilities for cars (cough Renault).

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Me likey!! I think I know what it will be! (not what I asked about, but nice nonetheless)

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Colin McRae name was used on Dirt series in Dirt and Dirt 2. So that is excluded following what Paul had said. And may exclude the R4 555 tribute as well.

About the Colin's Subaru livery, i don't think they would want it for 5 years. The Martini liveries that are probably coming. 
Wrong, Dirt 2 wasnt colin mcrae named, Dirt 1 yes but Dirt 2 was Ken Block DudeBro DiRT 2 ,and a tribute to colin didnt existed in DiRT series because the last colin mcrae named game was when colin was alive, so im sure about colin pack

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I believe it is the liveries
                                                            

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Colin McRae name was used on Dirt series in Dirt and Dirt 2. So that is excluded following what Paul had said. And may exclude the R4 555 tribute as well.

About the Colin's Subaru livery, i don't think they would want it for 5 years. The Martini liveries that are probably coming. 
Wrong, Dirt 2 wasnt colin mcrae named, Dirt 1 yes but Dirt 2 was Ken Block DudeBro DiRT 2 ,and a tribute to colin didnt existed in DiRT series because the last colin mcrae named game was when colin was alive, so im sure about colin pack


wrong. (edit) ish - outside Europe it was known as Dirt 2, but it did still have the McRae challenge and the tribute video to McRae... although the name Colin McRae was missing from the box art.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_McRae:_Dirt_2


Dirt 2 also had a short tribute video to McRae once you unlocked the 95 impreza.


I should know, I unlocked it on pc, ps3 and xbox 360 ;)

and here it is.

https://youtu.be/yvtJuG-SQNA

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Evilsmurf said:
Colin McRae name was used on Dirt series in Dirt and Dirt 2. So that is excluded following what Paul had said. And may exclude the R4 555 tribute as well.

About the Colin's Subaru livery, i don't think they would want it for 5 years. The Martini liveries that are probably coming. 
Wrong, Dirt 2 wasnt colin mcrae named, Dirt 1 yes but Dirt 2 was Ken Block DudeBro DiRT 2 ,and a tribute to colin didnt existed in DiRT series because the last colin mcrae named game was when colin was alive, so im sure about colin pack


wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_McRae:_Dirt_2


Dirt 2 also had a short tribute video to McRae once you unlocked the 95 impreza.


I should know, I unlocked it on pc, ps3 and xbox 360 ;)

and here it is.

https://youtu.be/yvtJuG-SQNA

Outside Europe it was just DiRT 2 im not wrong

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It's real pleasant to be thinking McRae in some form or another will be part or DR, a bit like moms cooking, comforting and great memories.

;.)

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Outside Europe it was just DiRT 2 im not wrong
Yup, in the US DiRT never had Colin McRae branding, most people that played the CMR series in the US would probably have been surprised to find out he was a rally driver and not a game designer.

As far as gossip goes, both the 555 and the Martini liveries would be equally something that I could see suits being uncomfortable with, as anything smoking and drinking related has rating repercussions associated with them. Obviously that 22B with the 555 livery (without the 555 itself) is the natural fit.

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enamel said:
As far as gossip goes, both the 555 and the Martini liveries would be equally something that I could see suits being uncomfortable with, as anything smoking and drinking related has rating repercussions associated with them. Obviously that 22B with the 555 livery (without the 555 itself) is the natural fit.
Alright, there we go again. I'll just make this post before the thread gets back into its usual "That's the Subaru S1 Quattro 22B S4 WRC Gr.B!" state :joy:

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We first had our little christmas gift containing the intro of Colin McRae Rally. We then had the TBT with a big picture of the same game coupled with "never forget your roots". 

It's surely is the Impreza S4 WRC. It's got to be. I need it to be. Please let it be!

;)

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I would just like to say that if we are getting more Scoobies then I am very happy as they are my favourite car manufacturer :) If we are getting some Renault's, and fingers crossed it will include the Megane Maxi then 
I am even happier ad they are my second favourite car manufacturer :)

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Dirt 2 had Colin's name & a few McRae cars such as the R4, Mk2, & indirectly, the gold X-Games Evo, Dirt 3 had the McRae R4, his and Jimmy's Sierra and his Mk2 Escort etc, so he has always had a presence of sorts.

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I got to meet our new community manager yesterday at the Autosport show, seems like we've finally got a good replacement for Lee!! She even had some dirt rally stickers for me  :D

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gfRally said:
Ok figured out "the cool thing" that has been missing for 5 years, if I'm right, it's so obvious that it's hitting us square between the eyes.  The McRae name will be associated with DiRT (Rally) again.  The box art was a diversion or placeholder for 'something special' to replace it.
I personally don't think it's this: what relevance would the McRae name have to the game at this point? If I recall correctly the family gave the green light to the name being used with DiRT 2 as Colin had some input on the game.

Including more of his cars would be awesome, but tacking his name onto a game he had no input on would, in my personal opinion, be in rather poor taste.
KevM said:
versedi said:
Back to gossip guys!
@Kickup said: "I don’t want to give too much away but I should probably clarify that it isn’t a massive feature but it is something pretty special that will add something quite poignant to DiRT Rally that has been missing from the series for a long time."


Has to be...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BAfJhVPRcXV/

What else could be described as 'poignant' to the series?  I hope I'm right...


As others have already said, it can't be this as the car has only been around a year!

Nice tweet from @KickUp though: glad to see he is keeping track of our random speculation!

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@BrySkye pointed out very important thing - liveries in consoles can't be replaced.
I think we might be getting some new liveries to a few cars. It's definetely not the new Subaru, it's not poignant

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When I said the 555 Subaru and Martini Focus, I was only referring to the censored versions which are far from uncommon in games.
Both liveries are in the 'remade' Colin McRae Rally Mobile/Steam game (but have never been in a DiRT game).




The thing is, these still need to be licensed. The Martini Stripes themselves are part of Martin's brand identity and IP, so even if you're not using the word Martini anywhere, you still need to license the use of the stripes in those specific colours.

I did also caveat that new cars driven by CM/RB were, as of a couple of months ago, not happening.
So I wouldn't hold my breath for that 1998 car.

HOWEVER

Re-evaluating something I'm privy to, I'm going to say it's not Martini.
I have some reason to be pretty confident that it's the censored version of McRae's 1995 Impreza which, let's remember, was the livery the car wore in the season finale in Wales because of the UK's ban on tobacco advertising in sports.

Even though it's censored, it's still poignent because it's still correct.



As for the 2015 tribute R4 Impreza, bear in mind that while it's connection to Colin was somewhat talked up, it wasn't made for that purpose.
It was to mark the 20th anniversary of Subaru's first WRC championship as a constructor and Subaru's heritage.
Colin McRae just happened to be the driver.

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versedi said:
@BrySkye pointed out very important thing - liveries in consoles can't be replaced.
I think we might be getting some new liveries to a few cars. It's definetely not the new Subaru, it's not poignant
Agreed! A proper livery for the Group A Impreza would be very poignant and it's something that has been lacking from the DiRT series.

I know someone (Paul?) stated sometime ago that SWRT liveries were a nightmare to get the green light on (plus the early liveries include a tobacco company, which is of course a big no no). I assume Codemasters have had some success with SWRT though, as they managed to get the S8 Impreza WRC in game? Perhaps this now extends to the Group A car: I certainly hope so!

Based on the comment from @KickUp on Twitter that it was guessed "in the last hour" from his tweet I think we can (sadly) rule out it being the S4 Impreza WRC: that was suggested a couple of days ago. The first livery guess looked pretty close to his initial tweet though!

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tbtstt said:
versedi said:
@BrySkye pointed out very important thing - liveries in consoles can't be replaced.
I think we might be getting some new liveries to a few cars. It's definetely not the new Subaru, it's not poignant
Agreed! A proper livery for the Group A Impreza would be very poignant and it's something that has been lacking from the DiRT series.

I know someone (Paul?) stated sometime ago that SWRT liveries were a nightmare to get the green light on (plus the early liveries include a tobacco company, which is of course a big no no). I assume Codemasters have had some success with SWRT though, as they managed to get the S8 Impreza WRC in game? Perhaps this now extends to the Group A car: I certainly hope so!

Based on the comment from @KickUp on Twitter that it was guessed "in the last hour" from his tweet I think we can (sadly) rule out it being the S4 Impreza WRC: that was suggested a couple of days ago. The first livery guess looked pretty close to his initial tweet though!
what is really laccking in group A is a celica  185 :)

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