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BrySkye said:

I can't really think of other cars that would have such a bad reputation. To be honest, hard to imagine one more difficult than the 037 (one of my earliest guesses) and the Delta S4.
The 205 Pikes Peak was an utter hell car with v1, but apparently that's not it either.

How about the R5 Maxi Turbo? That was quite a handful if I'm not mistaken.
Lots of power (345 BHP) on the rear wheels of that short wheelbased Renault.
Only one man ever really mastered that one: Jean Ragnotti.
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enamel said:
I doubt the box will contain the game at all, we are up to what 35+ Gb? Unless they ship it on 5 dual layer DVDs, the box will contain a download code. Assuming people even have an optical drive in their PC, it has been several years since I have.
Aren't all PC games these days a small DVD with a Steam download code?
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BrySkye said:

I can't really think of other cars that would have such a bad reputation. To be honest, hard to imagine one more difficult than the 037 (one of my earliest guesses) and the Delta S4.
The 205 Pikes Peak was an utter hell car with v1, but apparently that's not it either.

How about the R5 Maxi Turbo? That was quite a handful if I'm not mistaken.
Lots of power (345 BHP) on the rear wheels of that short wheelbased Renault.
Only one man ever really mastered that one: Jean Ragnotti.
This. The R5 was just bonkers.
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BrySkye said:
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In addition to that, both Paul and Hatward, at the very least have been lingering around in here, dropping a few likes and lols here and there.

If there was absolutely nothing to this, you would think they would be rather quick to shoot it down and say it's fake, especially if it were to associate their product with a vehicle they didn't have permission to use.
That would be pretty bad times for them. 
Yeah, pretty much everything else lately that we have speculated about that has been false, we have been told about it. This hasn't been denied at all. I wonder when the actual announcement is meant to be, or whether this leak changes things?

Woth regards to the game's size, would it not be compressed slightly from the steam download? I don't know much (anything) about it, but I always assumed downloading a game straight was larger than having it on a disc?
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BrySkye said:

I can't really think of other cars that would have such a bad reputation. To be honest, hard to imagine one more difficult than the 037 (one of my earliest guesses) and the Delta S4.
The 205 Pikes Peak was an utter hell car with v1, but apparently that's not it either.

How about the R5 Maxi Turbo? That was quite a handful if I'm not mistaken.
Lots of power (345 BHP) on the rear wheels of that short wheelbased Renault.
Only one man ever really mastered that one: Jean Ragnotti.
This. The R5 was just bonkers.
Ahem
BrySkye said:
Not sure about the Renault 5 or Alpine.
You deleted it out of the quote, lol!
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BrySkye said:
The physical PC version of GTA 5 comes on 7 discs.


That's really impressive, good on Rockstar. I still have my original Civilization that came on like 10-12 floppies, I didn't realize there were still games that came like that.
Aren't all PC games these days a small DVD with a Steam download code?
That is what I assumed since there is always a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth from people that like physical media. Like the latest Star Wars game that didn't even have a disc at all in the physical box.

But I am totally out of the loop when it comes to buying physical releases. The last physical box I bought was rFactor 1.
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JZStudios said:

Yeah, I like Dirt 2's menu system. I don't like 1 or 3s weird floating tiles against white speckly space. It's just kind of weird. I also liked the interaction of Dirt 2 more than 3. In 2 if you smack into someone they get on they radio and yell at you, in 3 there's no interaction whatsoever. However looking back on it, Dirt 1 had the most types of vehicles, and I always wanted to try the big truck racing. I still feel like the next dirt game could be like that, more off road in general, but maybe people didn't like the trucks?
I can't believe what I'm reading. I think Dirt 2 had the most hateful menu system in human history. I also thought the interaction was shit, what race driver talks to his opponents mid-race?

Dirt 3's menus were shit too, not because of their style, but because they were so awfully slow. Getting from one spot in the menus to another took longer than driving a stage.

My main gripe with Dirt Rally's menu is that you can't read anything against the bright background, but thankfully I know what is where anyway. I think menus aren't games, they're supposed to get me where I want to go quickly and easily, and thus DR's menus are far superior to its predecessors. imho.
Dirt 2's menu was interesting and different, felt like you were on location, unlike every other single racing game where your just looking at a boring spreadsheet menu. Personal preferences, but I commend CM for giving it a try.
I also don't really find Dirt 3's menus slow, but eh, whatever. DR's menus aren't bad, but they're just as boring as every other games. Again Dirt 2 did something different. Also, I'm no expert, but you could talk to the other drivers mid race if you wanted to, especially if they slammed you into a wall and you feel like yelling at them.
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enamel said:
That's really impressive, good on Rockstar. I still have my original Civilization that came on like 10-12 floppies, I didn't realize there were still games that came like that.
Mmmm... floppies, a whopping 1.4 Mb of storage, combined with a PC that had a 1.2 Ghz dual core, 40 Mb of HDD and 128 Mb of ram, and they called you insane, you'd never need that much storage and speed.
We still have a large collection of floppies, disc drives, and 258 MB DDR333 ram cards, and 1 old Nvidia GTX.
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I would honestly like to see a combination of the first 2 DiRT titles with CMR3 rally atmosphere.

DiRT2 had a story, and a variety of locations all over the world.  

Tone down the DiRT2 xgames style, make it serious, but more of a journey from grassroots to Pro level.  Possibly branch to different types of rally.  Stage, Rallycross, Baja, Mint 400 style (http://themint400.com/2014/03/2014-mint-400-race-map/)

These are Real sports/real tracks/locations, not made up "glam" locations. 

I liked DiRT2 world locations (expensive to do though), but use real events.  Keep the current DiRT Rally locations, just use new stages/areas.

DiRT1 had Lorries and kind of Dakar-esq style racing, which was a nice addition.  

I still play D2 for fun and for the non technical nature.  Sometimes it doesn't have to be real to be fun, that said I still want DR to move forward with its serious and simulation based experience.

Oh yeah keep PikesPeak too, just needs full dirt and more cars, even less hp rally cars, add fairings and larger spoilers like in D2.  
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At ethere any interesting details in the Amazon description?

I'm not German, so may translate wrongly, but it looks like the description says:

- 8 environments?
- 50 stages (grrr)? Would make sense post-Finland.
- 28 cars in 7 classes? I count 39 (including i20 and Polo) in 12, 30 in 10 in rallying.
- 2 RX tracks? Been three for a while.
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His Top Gear appearance and tribute are also some of the few things that haven't been culled from Youtube.
(For some reason the 2nd half of the vid is just the 1st half again without sound)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTwjnt1nbrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQdAwuZXAWc
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Totally agree with you, Dirt 2 had an interesting story that involved you. I would like to see a more professional version of it, with dirt rally physics and stages
Oh yeah, one more, absolutely have to have CMR3 animations.  Loved the service area work and sounds, the start of the stage animations with marshal walking up to car, and finally the celebrations at the end of the event.  

These just add to the experience and rally culture we love.  

People are as much about rally as the cars and places.  
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No gossip just respect to the legend Richard Burns today. 

http://youtu.be/GqGUD6Wz14w
Makes me wanna dig out my PS2 and the old Evo Studios WRC games and run a Championship as Burns/Reid. 

It irks me how short life can be, especially for people like Richard. Jenson Button reminds me a lot of Burns, the way he has the skill, but he also has the great character which is incredible and so important to have in any sport. Burns had both in abundance. 
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Having the POLO R WRC in D:R is kinda dream come true to me.

Fell in love with this car when I first saw it @ Rally Legend San Marino in 2012 in the hands of Carlos Sainz as one of the VW WRC programme development drivers...

very excited to learn it will make it into the final version of D:R  ! :)  
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gfRally said:
Totally agree with you, Dirt 2 had an interesting story that involved you. I would like to see a more professional version of it, with dirt rally physics and stages
Oh yeah, one more, absolutely have to have CMR3 animations.  Loved the service area work and sounds, the start of the stage animations with marshal walking up to car, and finally the celebrations at the end of the event.  

These just add to the experience and rally culture we love.  

People are as much about rally as the cars and places.  
I wonder what dirt rally would have been like with a budget similar to dirt 3? Things like service animations and other things were sacrificed for the details in stages and handling
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gfRally said:
Totally agree with you, Dirt 2 had an interesting story that involved you. I would like to see a more professional version of it, with dirt rally physics and stages
Oh yeah, one more, absolutely have to have CMR3 animations.  Loved the service area work and sounds, the start of the stage animations with marshal walking up to car, and finally the celebrations at the end of the event.  

These just add to the experience and rally culture we love.  

People are as much about rally as the cars and places.  
I wonder what dirt rally would have been like with a budget similar to dirt 3? Things like service animations and other things were sacrificed for the details in stages and handling
Personally, I'd hope exactly the same, but with a few more details in those stages or handling (or some more licenses) - I much prefer the presentation style and menu system they have now to any previous rally games I've played.
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gfRally said:
Totally agree with you, Dirt 2 had an interesting story that involved you. I would like to see a more professional version of it, with dirt rally physics and stages
Oh yeah, one more, absolutely have to have CMR3 animations.  Loved the service area work and sounds, the start of the stage animations with marshal walking up to car, and finally the celebrations at the end of the event.  

These just add to the experience and rally culture we love.  

People are as much about rally as the cars and places.  
I wonder what dirt rally would have been like with a budget similar to dirt 3? Things like service animations and other things were sacrificed for the details in stages and handling
Personally, I'd hope exactly the same, but with a few more details in those stages or handling (or some more licenses) - I much prefer the presentation style and menu system they have now to any previous rally games I've played.
I do too, but tye game does miss some things like atmosphere. At the moment it is just menus and racing. The racing is incredible and the menus are pretty good, but it's a bit of a shame we miss out on other things
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tbtstt said:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-11-25-codemasters-re-focuses-on-racing-games-as-it-closes-battle-decks-studio

'The success of DiRT Rally's Early Access programme has been incredible'.

I think Codies know they need to bring DiRT Rally to consoles pronto!
Fingers crossed!
Goddamit! then I'll have to buy it two more times!
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Personally, I'd hope exactly the same, but with a few more details in those stages or handling (or some more licenses) - I much prefer the presentation style and menu system they have now to any previous rally games I've played.
I still like the menu from CMR 2.0 the most, especially with that menu theme song which is eargasmic.
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Personally, I'd hope exactly the same, but with a few more details in those stages or handling (or some more licenses) - I much prefer the presentation style and menu system they have now to any previous rally games I've played.
I still like the menu from CMR 2.0 the most, especially with that menu theme song which is eargasmic.
Indeed. It was one of the best interfaces ever made in a game. I'm pretty sure my muscle memory still remember how to load second stage of finland with focus, choose second setup preset from bottom and load the game. It took like 3 seconds...sounds were likeable too, not to mention the legendary menu sound track.
The leaderboards, were just awesome. Personal Records with split times, and you could have even press Back if you've accidentaly gone too far by the time table. I think this is something that devs could have an inspiration from nowadays.

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At ethere any interesting details in the Amazon description?

I'm not German, so may translate wrongly, but it looks like the description says:

- 8 environments?
- 50 stages (grrr)? Would make sense post-Finland.
- 28 cars in 7 classes? I count 39 (including i20 and Polo) in 12, 30 in 10 in rallying.
- 2 RX tracks? Been three for a while.
I'm still not buying that cover as being authentic. There's a 2015 WRC car in it and, as far as I know, no chances of getting one so...
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At ethere any interesting details in the Amazon description?

I'm not German, so may translate wrongly, but it looks like the description says:

- 8 environments?
- 50 stages (grrr)? Would make sense post-Finland.
- 28 cars in 7 classes? I count 39 (including i20 and Polo) in 12, 30 in 10 in rallying.
- 2 RX tracks? Been three for a while.
I'm still not buying that cover as being authentic. There's a 2015 WRC car in it and, as far as I know, no chances of getting one so...
eh somewhere in this thread theres a tweet of pauls basically confirming its real
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At ethere any interesting details in the Amazon description?

I'm not German, so may translate wrongly, but it looks like the description says:

- 8 environments?
- 50 stages (grrr)? Would make sense post-Finland.
- 28 cars in 7 classes? I count 39 (including i20 and Polo) in 12, 30 in 10 in rallying.
- 2 RX tracks? Been three for a while.
I'm still not buying that cover as being authentic. There's a 2015 WRC car in it and, as far as I know, no chances of getting one so...
You know nothing Jon Snow.
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At ethere any interesting details in the Amazon description?

I'm not German, so may translate wrongly, but it looks like the description says:

- 8 environments?
- 50 stages (grrr)? Would make sense post-Finland.
- 28 cars in 7 classes? I count 39 (including i20 and Polo) in 12, 30 in 10 in rallying.
- 2 RX tracks? Been three for a while.
I'm still not buying that cover as being authentic. There's a 2015 WRC car in it and, as far as I know, no chances of getting one so...
Why is there no chance of getting one?
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At ethere any interesting details in the Amazon description?

I'm not German, so may translate wrongly, but it looks like the description says:

- 8 environments?
- 50 stages (grrr)? Would make sense post-Finland.
- 28 cars in 7 classes? I count 39 (including i20 and Polo) in 12, 30 in 10 in rallying.
- 2 RX tracks? Been three for a while.
I'm still not buying that cover as being authentic. There's a 2015 WRC car in it and, as far as I know, no chances of getting one so...
World is full of surprises... :)
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At ethere any interesting details in the Amazon description?

I'm not German, so may translate wrongly, but it looks like the description says:

- 8 environments?
- 50 stages (grrr)? Would make sense post-Finland.
- 28 cars in 7 classes? I count 39 (including i20 and Polo) in 12, 30 in 10 in rallying.
- 2 RX tracks? Been three for a while.
I'm still not buying that cover as being authentic. There's a 2015 WRC car in it and, as far as I know, no chances of getting one so...
Why is there no chance of getting one?
Because of Kylotonn's WRC title? I could be wrong, but I thought that title prevented that.

AphDburn said:
At ethere any interesting details in the Amazon description?

I'm not German, so may translate wrongly, but it looks like the description says:

- 8 environments?
- 50 stages (grrr)? Would make sense post-Finland.
- 28 cars in 7 classes? I count 39 (including i20 and Polo) in 12, 30 in 10 in rallying.
- 2 RX tracks? Been three for a while.
I'm still not buying that cover as being authentic. There's a 2015 WRC car in it and, as far as I know, no chances of getting one so...
eh somewhere in this thread theres a tweet of pauls basically confirming its real
Are you sure the "Looks good to me" post is to be taken seriously? He could be dodging our gossiping jabs.
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Are you sure the "Looks good to me" post is to be taken seriously? He could be dodging our gossiping jabs.
If it was made up, Paul and CM would be taking it very seriously, not joking around.
So would VW. Lawyers would probably be involved.

Calling it a Polo R WRC is, of course, impossible.
Calling it, say... "Polo Rally" would be fine.

An official licensed product doesn't strictly gain exclusive use of the cars.
For example, Codemasters have the official FIA F1 license. They gained this around 2008 and they released F1 2009 for the PS2 and Wii in 2009.
F1 2010 was released at the end of 2010.
At the same time, Gran Turismo 5 was released and featured the Ferrari F10, Ferrari's car of the 2010 season.

Gran Turismo 5 did not have any kind of FIA F1 license, though it did have an official FIA WRC license as part of the Sebastian Loeb Challenge, so the cars could actually be called WRC cars.
This was also the same year Milestone released their first WRC game, so yeah, two games were released at the same time that had the FIA WRC license.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebGceFe93g
As you can see, the car is listed as the C4 WRC and the WRC logo is on the side of the car.

That's not to say DiRT Rally has gained a WRC license, it's just an example to how complicated the whole thing can potentially be.

Car makers are asked to respect the license of an official race series, but I don't believe they are strictly obliged to follow it.
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I wouldn't be suprised if they have realised in what piece of szit they've put their license into and that there's no target group as car buyers in there.Or maybe they've had some kind of a deal that they've to be released first in Kylotonne's title?
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