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Did you know that the long-time members of this thread have had a DiRTy Gossip Discord server for a while?

You do now 😉 

 

 

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7 hours ago, JZStudios said:

Nah, even the old devs stopped poking around the forums after DR1 was out

Fair enough.

 

I was active on these forums from 2010-2012 and I think I didn't come back regularly until just before DiRT Rally 2.0 was released.

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14 hours ago, urgaffel said:

Sorry Jz, I’ve been busy with non Dirt things so haven’t had anything to share. Plus (for me) it’s easier to pop in to the discord channel every now and then compared to the forum.

Oh, good excuse.

DR3 confirmed not happening.

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On 11/15/2021 at 10:17 AM, PJTierney said:

I think part of that has to do with what the original DiRT Rally was, an early-access project. The team at the time (this is only my assumption) needed that hands-on interaction to help build the kind of experience you were all after, as a "hardcore rally game" hadn't been done by anyone since Richard Burns Rally.

On top of that the environment changes a bit as people come and go. Lee, Coleman and Christina have all moved on (Lee's at EA now) and I joined a few years ago. I guess I'm more active here because I was "one of you lot" before getting hired whereas somebody coming in fresh may not be as hands-on here.

In addition, the social/community landscape has changed in the past few years, to the point where it can be a bit risky for a developer to freely post on the forums. Unless somebody is trained in or has experience with being a "face" of a brand, it's easy for comments to be taken the wrong way, things to be leaked etc.

I'm all for more developers being on the forums though, but even with my specialised role it can be a little tricky to interact with you all in a way that doesn't get me in trouble 😄 

Yeah, can understand your position now. To just reiterate my point wasn't a dig at either you or the other staff members who post on here. Times change and with new faces and new management I think it is only natural that the environment changes as well. 

From the visits I have made to Southam I would say there has been a noticeable difference. I would say that the original DR was almost a bit of a guerrilla effort (at least in the early days) and the conversations about it at the time felt like it was being led by individuals rather than a company; subsequent titles (both Dirt and Dirt Rally) seemed to have a much clearer direction - and management - from the outset.   

On 11/15/2021 at 4:52 PM, PJTierney said:

Other than people moving on and new people being around, I think it's also a sign of the times in that forums aren't as popular/active as they used to be (although I feel they're still much better than Discord etc. for certain things, like bug reports and long-form discussion).

Definitely agree with this. I am a member of a number of car forums and the vast majority of them have a fraction of the traffic they used to have (and some have disappeared completely). I have long thought it is quite funny that Facebook, despite having "real" personal data on display, never seems as personal to me as a good forum (or even Discord, which I find the closest thing to a good forum at the moment).

On 11/15/2021 at 5:40 PM, F2CMaDMaXX said:

It seems highly unlikely there won't be something between now and the official WRC licensed game.

That is what I think at this point as well. I thought an intermediate DR rally game would either be imminent or actually in our hands at this stage. 

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You might have mis-read my double negative post.

I'm saying that there should be something very soon, something before the official game, just because the team have been working on it for ages and i'm fairly certain i saw they'd produce something before the licensed game.

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I too wat to think there'll be something DR related to the WRC game. But I'm not quite sure to what extent that DirtFish article was speculating when they noted that the DR team was working on something. I might be wrong, but AFAIK there is no official news from the team that they are in fact working on something.

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Well, also an other scenario can happen. 

As WRC always have been a standalone game, so the next DiRT Rally game will be the actual WRC game in 2023/2024. So basically DiRT Rally + WRC - Rallycross.

Then we will get another DiRT game, but with maybe a bigger/realistic implementation of Rallycross (and less boom-boom over the top action). 
 

An other option is that there will be an standalone Rallycross. A bit currently the problem is that WRX isn’t the most interesting roster of entries to get in a game (with just 7 permanent entries). So it might be more interesting to not go with a licensing model like DiRT5, so you can also implement real and fictional (NRX lookalike) tracks and a track editor. And cars can be from real and mix of different championships. And then liveries a mix of real, fictional and a livery editor. So basically DiRT Rally - Rally + editors.

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12 hours ago, JorritVD said:

Well, also an other scenario can happen. 

As WRC always have been a standalone game, so the next DiRT Rally game will be the actual WRC game in 2023/2024. So basically DiRT Rally + WRC - Rallycross.

Then we will get another DiRT game, but with maybe a bigger/realistic implementation of Rallycross (and less boom-boom over the top action). 
 

An other option is that there will be an standalone Rallycross. A bit currently the problem is that WRX isn’t the most interesting roster of entries to get in a game (with just 7 permanent entries). So it might be more interesting to not go with a licensing model like DiRT5, so you can also implement real and fictional (NRX lookalike) tracks and a track editor. And cars can be from real and mix of different championships. And then liveries a mix of real, fictional and a livery editor. So basically DiRT Rally - Rally + editors.

You know for which kinda game I would vote. :classic_ninja:

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18 hours ago, JorritVD said:

Well, also an other scenario can happen. 

As WRC always have been a standalone game, so the next DiRT Rally game will be the actual WRC game in 2023/2024. So basically DiRT Rally + WRC - Rallycross.

Then we will get another DiRT game, but with maybe a bigger/realistic implementation of Rallycross (and less boom-boom over the top action). 
 

An other option is that there will be an standalone Rallycross. A bit currently the problem is that WRX isn’t the most interesting roster of entries to get in a game (with just 7 permanent entries). So it might be more interesting to not go with a licensing model like DiRT5, so you can also implement real and fictional (NRX lookalike) tracks and a track editor. And cars can be from real and mix of different championships. And then liveries a mix of real, fictional and a livery editor. So basically DiRT Rally - Rally + editors.

Would there be any reason for WRC to say hell no we don't want WRX in our game? WRX doesn't seem too concerned about being the title considering they weren't for DR or DR2.

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WRC and WRX are both promoted by the same parent company now, so in theory they're more open to things in terms of the sport(s) and how they go about promoting it.

Before 2020 happened there were plans to have a joint WRC-WRX weekend at Spa for example.

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1 hour ago, urgaffel said:

Ok, I’ll go back to not posting since I’m obviously not saying the right things. I’ll let the work speak for itself 🙂

I never said you could win.

 

9 hours ago, PJTierney said:

WRC and WRX are both promoted by the same parent company now, so in theory they're more open to things in terms of the sport(s) and how they go about promoting it.

Before 2020 happened there were plans to have a joint WRC-WRX weekend at Spa for example.

WRC confirmed to have WRX.

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On 11/16/2021 at 8:49 PM, F2CMaDMaXX said:

You might have mis-read my double negative post.

I'm saying that there should be something very soon, something before the official game, just because the team have been working on it for ages and i'm fairly certain i saw they'd produce something before the licensed game.

Yeah, I did misread your post! 🤦‍♂️

I was of the same opinion as you, as the gap between titles seemed too big to me, but I would have expected an interim game (or at least news of an interim game) to have come by now. 

18 hours ago, PJTierney said:

WRC and WRX are both promoted by the same parent company now, so in theory they're more open to things in terms of the sport(s) and how they go about promoting it.

Hoping that WRC Promoter retain the European Championship rights for next year (and onwards) so both the electric World and petrol Euro Supercars could all be included in an official title. 

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52 minutes ago, tbtstt said:

Hoping that WRC Promoter retain the European Championship rights for next year (and onwards) so both the electric World and petrol Euro Supercars could all be included in an official title. 

Yeah, but that might also be very conflicting.

WRX and RX2e are both electric.
WRC Rally 1 will be hybrid
All others are petrol. I wonder if that has influence on a potential strategy regarding a game. 

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2 hours ago, ricxxV2 said:

Nice driving man! You seem to really like the Baumholder location ^^

Thanks, mate! Appreciate the compliment. 

I like driving on tarmac and it's especially ideal to show off new designs. You wouldn't be able to see half of it after a few metres on gravel or snow. 😅

The tarmac/concrete of the Baumholder area allows me to show off my skills as well with the many junctions and hairpins.

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22 minutes ago, SRD_SimVansevenant said:

I like driving on tarmac and it's especially ideal to show off new designs. You wouldn't be able to see half of it after a few metres on gravel or snow. 😅

 

True, didn't think of that at all. 🤦‍♂️

 

2 hours ago, Rogerbee said:

Who doesn't? 

I must say it's among my least favourate locations. The uphill stage through the forest (Waldaufstieg) is awesome, though. 

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