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'Getting builds ready' would suggest that they are getting something ready to show, either to press or for play testing. It seems a bit too soon for a Grid announcement for me, as codemasters tend to have games in development for much longer than a year before they make any announcements.

Yeah, I think there would be a lynching if they would announce another GRID this soon before DiRT4.
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'Getting builds ready' would suggest that they are getting something ready to show, either to press or for play testing. It seems a bit too soon for a Grid announcement for me, as codemasters tend to have games in development for much longer than a year before they make any announcements.

Yeah, I think there would be a lynching if they would announce another GRID this soon before DiRT4.
I would like to think so too :) However, Codemasters had both rally and touring car drivers come in for playtests and hints on CMR or TOCA inspired direction are coming through from both DiRT and GRID camps.

I can't call it anymore... :)
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I would like to think so too :) However, Codemasters had both rally and touring car drivers come in for playtests and hints on CMR or TOCA inspired direction are coming through from both DiRT and GRID camps.

I can't call it anymore... :)
This might suggest... 

What if they have merged the two series. One big useless World Series of Racing with gymkhana, rally, touring cars, touge, le mans, horseback riding and (god forbid) drift. All vehicles mixed up into one big stinkin stew called GRiT..
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I would like to think so too :) However, Codemasters had both rally and touring car drivers come in for playtests and hints on CMR or TOCA inspired direction are coming through from both DiRT and GRID camps.

I can't call it anymore... :)
This might suggest... 

What if they have merged the two series. One big useless World Series of Racing with gymkhana, rally, touring cars, touge, le mans, horseback riding and (god forbid) drift. All vehicles mixed up into one big stinkin stew called GRiT..
Stop it. You've got an impressive imagination :)



Azoresst said:
Why they want so many donuts?

https://twitter.com/justbiglee/status/456732646434177024
Maybe they're brewing up some big news next week and they need the brain fuel?
Poor @justbiglee can only watch them stuff their faces with doughnuts...
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We will have to see what the next weekly update brings, but from the last one it would seem like something is definitely around the corner.


They have had professionals coming in and testing for a long time, but it seems that they've had rally drivers in a long time before the touring car drivers.

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Very interesting! Possibly a private joke, but Lee responds with 'its the best kind of news'. There's always hope, but I would have thought they would have secured this earlier in development. But still, I don't know much about game development and licensing, so I could be wrong!
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Very interesting! Possibly a private joke, but Lee responds with 'its the best kind of news'. There's always hope, but I would have thought they would have secured this earlier in development. But still, I don't know much about game development and licensing, so I could be wrong!
I remember from some old @KickUp interview that often the team models and develops cars for the game with hope that the approval will come through later. Because it takes a long time to 3D model the car and then tweak its handling they have to start before they get the manufacturer/livery approval.

Maybe in the past the DiRT team modelled and developed cars, which they couldn't put into the final game because of licencing issues. 

That tweet may be a joke between work buds or a deliberate hint? :D
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I would like to think so too :) However, Codemasters had both rally and touring car drivers come in for playtests and hints on CMR or TOCA inspired direction are coming through from both DiRT and GRID camps.

I can't call it anymore... :)
This might suggest... 

What if they have merged the two series. One big useless World Series of Racing with gymkhana, rally, touring cars, touge, le mans, horseback riding and (god forbid) drift. All vehicles mixed up into one big stinkin stew called GRiT..
The name actually sounds really cool there. I wonder what kind of game would be appropriate to slap that label on. Drag racing on the salt flats maybe? 
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Very interesting! Possibly a private joke, but Lee responds with 'its the best kind of news'. There's always hope, but I would have thought they would have secured this earlier in development. But still, I don't know much about game development and licensing, so I could be wrong!
I remember from some old @KickUp interview that often the team models and develops cars for the game with hope that the approval will come through later. Because it takes a long time to 3D model the car and then tweak its handling they have to start before they get the manufacturer/livery approval.

Maybe in the past the DiRT team modelled and developed cars, which they couldn't put into the final game because of licencing issues. 

That tweet may be a joke between work buds or a deliberate hint? :D
The DiRT 3 team had a number of cars already on the list to be put in but couldn't get permission to use them.
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Very interesting! Possibly a private joke, but Lee responds with 'its the best kind of news'. There's always hope, but I would have thought they would have secured this earlier in development. But still, I don't know much about game development and licensing, so I could be wrong!
I remember from some old @KickUp interview that often the team models and develops cars for the game with hope that the approval will come through later. Because it takes a long time to 3D model the car and then tweak its handling they have to start before they get the manufacturer/livery approval.

Maybe in the past the DiRT team modelled and developed cars, which they couldn't put into the final game because of licencing issues. 

That tweet may be a joke between work buds or a deliberate hint? :D
The DiRT 3 team had a number of cars already on the list to be put in but couldn't get permission to use them.
Yeah. I remember the Skoda Fabia being one of the cars that disappeared after it was mentioned in some of the very early DiRT 3 previews.
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Also, this has just been put onto the GRID youtube page, so it looks like we will be seeing another GRID before DiRT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtmH9bldhmE

The above is now not gossip, but a fact :)

So @Loore 's tweet with final countdown was a 7 day mark.
https://twitter.com/BenWalke/status/455991706119602176

Well at least there's some news on the way :) I'm hoping the next GRID game will be a re-write of GRID 2 handling and will go back a bit too its roots in TOCA.

GRID news in a way means that DiRT news won't appear anytime soon as I suspect Codies won't want each other to steal PR thunder :(

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I loved the first GRID, but the second one lacked the things which made the first great. I do hope the handling has been improved.


But yes, I we may have to wait a little while until we see a DiRT announcement now, as they wouldn't release them a the same time, and they would be stealing each other's limelight in the press

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The signs are that the next GRID game will be to my liking (unfortunately Numero Duo wasn't) so in a way this is good news.

However, GRID game announcement not only makes DiRT game news less likely to appear in the near future; it also makes the summer release window rather tightly packed for Codemasters.

Let's assume that on 22nd April Codies announce 'GRID 2.5' or 'GRID 3' or 'GRID TOCA' will release 2-3 months from now. That would take it to roughly when GRID 2 was released in 2013, which was end of May/beginning of June or even later into the summer.

That leaves a gap between beginning of June to end of September (next F1 game) for a DiRT game to slot it. Historically Codies never released 3 big titles in the same year (let alone 4 month period) and it kind of makes sense, because that would saturate the market for them in a way...

So my worry is that next DiRT game will not slot into the summer release period and that's a bummer because I'm hungry for a next one :(

Looks like 2015...
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Codemasters normally tend to leave a longer period between announcement and release than that. My guess for GRID 3 would be November time, but then again, I've been consistently wrong so far in my guesses! ;)

I think November would have been too close to next F1 game.

F1 2013 release date was announced at the end of July last year - leaving almost 2.5 months between date announcement and release date.

I think Codemasters aimed at 1 year development cycle to:
- overhaul the handling model (GRID 2 handling was intentional, if the intention is different so will be the handling)
- make a couple more tracks
- optimise graphics engine further to make room for memory to include cockpit views
- focus on racing (less drift, less over the top narrative, less strange challenges)

My guess it will be a current gen game released in May or June.

But I can't shake off the feeling that new GRID pushes the DiRT game further away...
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Azoresst said:
Why they want so many donuts?

https://twitter.com/justbiglee/status/456732646434177024
I think this thread needs a pick me up.  It was mentioned that there where 36 donuts there, a VW Polo was breaking news, etc... well currently Mikko Hirvonen (drives a VW) has 36 points in the WRC.  Hmmmm... 
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gfRally said:
Azoresst said:
Why they want so many donuts?

https://twitter.com/justbiglee/status/456732646434177024
I think this thread needs a pick me up.  It was mentioned that there where 36 donuts there, a VW Polo was breaking news, etc... well currently Mikko Hirvonen (drives a VW) has 36 points in the WRC.  Hmmmm... 
Already been posted ;)
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gfRally said:
Azoresst said:
Why they want so many donuts?

https://twitter.com/justbiglee/status/456732646434177024
I think this thread needs a pick me up.  It was mentioned that there where 36 donuts there, a VW Polo was breaking news, etc... well currently Mikko Hirvonen (drives a VW) has 36 points in the WRC.  Hmmmm... 
Not to be the bummer... but Mikko Hirvonen it's a Ford driver! How can VW wants the old man at it's service! Their there to win, not to show their colors
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What could be the meaning of 36 doughnuts?  :-S

36 days until announcement?
3/6 - 3rd of June as the announcement date to work to?
36 hours until some sort of a deadline? nah.

Or maybe there are currently 36 devs on the DiRT team and that's how many doughnuts were needed...
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This is a long-shot but...

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/451750782237294593

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/456822916512899072

I get the feeling we'll be seeing a/another CMR 2.0 and CMR #tbt tweet in the near future followed by an announcement - Codies is using the series' titles as a countdown.

It's a long-shot and most likely wrong, but that's what I think.
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gfRally said:
Azoresst said:
Why they want so many donuts?

https://twitter.com/justbiglee/status/456732646434177024
I think this thread needs a pick me up.  It was mentioned that there where 36 donuts there, a VW Polo was breaking news, etc... well currently Mikko Hirvonen (drives a VW) has 36 points in the WRC.  Hmmmm... 
Not to be the bummer... but Mikko Hirvonen it's a Ford driver! How can VW wants the old man at it's service! Their there to win, not to show their colors
Oops! My bad... it was late when I posted and stretching for a clue...  Thanks for killing my high..  8-}
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789ifyz said:
This is a long-shot but...

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/451750782237294593

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/456822916512899072

I get the feeling we'll be seeing a/another CMR 2.0 and CMR #tbt tweet in the near future followed by an announcement - Codies is using the series' titles as a countdown.

It's a long-shot and most likely wrong, but that's what I think.
Interesting theory...

Going by that we would expect 
CMR 2.0 #tbt tweet on 24/4
CMR #tbt tweet on 1/5
and then...?
Hmmm...

GRID announcement is a bit of a spanner in works :P

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789ifyz said:
This is a long-shot but...

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/451750782237294593

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/456822916512899072

I get the feeling we'll be seeing a/another CMR 2.0 and CMR #tbt tweet in the near future followed by an announcement - Codies is using the series' titles as a countdown.

It's a long-shot and most likely wrong, but that's what I think.
Interesting theory...

Going by that we would expect 
CMR 2.0 #tbt tweet on 24/4
CMR #tbt tweet on 1/5
and then...?
Hmmm...

GRID announcement is a bit of a spanner in works :P

Theres two weeks between those tweets, so CMR 2.0 should be on the first.
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Theres two weeks between those tweets, so CMR 2.0 should be on the first.
Fair point. Last week the Throwback Thursday tweet mentioned Colin McRae DiRT:
https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/454270064108138496

Confusing scheduling by @justbiglee

20/2 -  CMR 2.0
27/2  - DiRT 2
6/3   -  CMR
13/3  -  No tweet
20/3  -  No tweet
27/3  -  CMR and TOCA 2
3/4    -  CMR 04
10/4  -  DiRT
17/4  -  CMR 03
what next @justbiglee ? :)
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Theres two weeks between those tweets, so CMR 2.0 should be on the first.
Fair point. Last week the Throwback Thursday tweet mentioned Colin McRae DiRT:
https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/454270064108138496

Confusing scheduling by @justbiglee

20/2 -  CMR 2.0
27/2  - DiRT 2
6/3   -  CMR
13/3  -  No tweet
20/3  -  No tweet
27/3  -  CMR and TOCA 2
3/4    -  CMR 04
10/4  -  DiRT
17/4  -  CMR 03
what next @justbiglee ? :)
Don't forget Fuel ;)
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Theres two weeks between those tweets, so CMR 2.0 should be on the first.
Fair point. Last week the Throwback Thursday tweet mentioned Colin McRae DiRT:
https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/454270064108138496

Confusing scheduling by @justbiglee

20/2 -  CMR 2.0
27/2  - DiRT 2
6/3   -  CMR
13/3  -  No tweet
20/3  -  No tweet
27/3  -  CMR and TOCA 2
3/4    -  CMR 04
10/4  -  DiRT
17/4  -  CMR 03
what next @justbiglee ? :)
Don't forget Fuel ;)
Just for you I'll do a Fuel one.
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here's another far-fetched idea...

These...

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/454198769366487041

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884458217459&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884461550792&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884451550793&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884454884126&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884464884125&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

are vehicle select/view screens and This...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884468217458&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

is a Split-Screen Multiplayer Loading screen Screenshot

I have absolutely NO FOUNDATION for making such assumptions, apart from my hopes that those are actual game graphics.
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789ifyz said:
here's another far-fetched idea...

These...

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/454198769366487041

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884458217459&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884461550792&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884451550793&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884454884126&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884464884125&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

are vehicle select/view screens and This...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884468217458&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

is a Split-Screen Multiplayer Loading screen Screenshot

I have absolutely NO FOUNDATION for making such assumptions, apart from my hopes that those are actual game graphics.
ah man that would make me the biggest troll ever! 



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789ifyz said:
here's another far-fetched idea...

These...

https://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/454198769366487041

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884458217459&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884461550792&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884451550793&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884454884126&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884464884125&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

are vehicle select/view screens and This...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=651884468217458&set=a.231832723555970.56129.132609796811597&type=1&theater

is a Split-Screen Multiplayer Loading screen Screenshot

I have absolutely NO FOUNDATION for making such assumptions, apart from my hopes that those are actual game graphics.
ah man that would make me the biggest troll ever! 



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So do I!

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That is an interesting theory... Kind of annoyed I didn't actually think of that, good spot.
Kinda annoyed I wasn't right.

I'm not actually, i was pretty certain I was wrong...

Still, I'd expect something definite by mid-May or E3 time at the latest. (plz)
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It went awfully quiet on the DiRTi Gossip front...

I guess Codies are busy cooking up the GRID PR storm for tomorrow 22/414.

Perhaps we'll find out the release date of the next GRID game tomorrow. That date being in 2014 pretty much means that DiRT is unlikely to come out this year, due to over-crowding of Codies racing game market.

There's also a big World RX media event in Italy later this week. I think there'll be plenty of great news, but a tie-up with Codemasters is unlikely to be announced... (prove me wrong please!)

Petter Solberg will show off his 2014 car and judging by teasers it will have a black/red/gold livery. I actually loved his bare black carbon fibre with stickers approach from 2013.
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It went awfully quiet on the DiRTi Gossip front...

I guess Codies are busy cooking up the GRID PR storm for tomorrow 22/414.

Perhaps we'll find out the release date of the next GRID game tomorrow. That date being in 2014 pretty much means that DiRT is unlikely to come out this year, due to over-crowding of Codies racing game market.

There's also a big World RX media event in Italy later this week. I think there'll be plenty of great news, but a tie-up with Codemasters is unlikely to be announced... (prove me wrong please!)

Petter Solberg will show off his 2014 car and judging by teasers it will have a black/red/gold livery. I actually loved his bare black carbon fibre with stickers approach from 2013.
There is a hint that Race Driver may be returning

http://twitter.com/dirtgame/status/457120412296806400

Seems the Twitter integration is broken?
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