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They recorded the Manta engine recently, so they're just 'completing' the set with the Ascona :)

I'll take all they can give, but if they didn't make any changes to the next game engine, i'd be surprised, i bet they're on all new tools now for the next project.
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bogani said:
On a more serious note, what makes me skeptical about VR in DR is the limited wheel animation that will kill the immersion instantly. The cockpits are also quite bland graphically.
I hope this will be fixed in the VR update, easy fix might be to hide the hands so no animation is needed for those, and just sync the wheel rotation.
I played Project CARS yesterday with my rift, and being able to see some arms and hands doing the same thing as I'm doing does help a lot with the immersion, so I do hope codies have been able to get full steering animation into the game.
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bogani said:
On a more serious note, what makes me skeptical about VR in DR is the limited wheel animation that will kill the immersion instantly. The cockpits are also quite bland graphically.
I hope this will be fixed in the VR update, easy fix might be to hide the hands so no animation is needed for those, and just sync the wheel rotation.
I played Project CARS yesterday with my rift, and being able to see some arms and hands doing the same thing as I'm doing does help a lot with the immersion, so I do hope codies have been able to get full steering animation into the game.
Yeah, my arms never line up with the in games. Especially for that weird period where neither hands on the wheel but it still turns. He's either using the force or.... Ahem.
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bogani said:
On a more serious note, what makes me skeptical about VR in DR is the limited wheel animation that will kill the immersion instantly. The cockpits are also quite bland graphically.
I hope this will be fixed in the VR update, easy fix might be to hide the hands so no animation is needed for those, and just sync the wheel rotation.
I played Project CARS yesterday with my rift, and being able to see some arms and hands doing the same thing as I'm doing does help a lot with the immersion, so I do hope codies have been able to get full steering animation into the game.

@KickUp. mentioned in a twitchbshow long while back, that the game just can't support it.  

With the lack of many character animation in the game outside of a few cameramen and crowd movements.  I think there was a lack of time to record them or game optimization reasons.  

I have been asking for this now for years. besides now the steering I wish they where able to go back to CMR 3 character animations it would rally add to the atmosphere.  Even DiRT2 had some variety when you got close to the crowds.  

I do understand there are always compromises and limitations, but it will continue to be on my wish list.  

A little off subject,  they have almost nailed every check on my sound list before DR was announced, again "the sound of Gravel" is absolutely complete.
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@KickUp. mentioned in a twitchbshow long while back, that the game just can't support it.  

With the lack of many character animation in the game outside of a few cameramen and crowd movements.  I think there was a lack of time to record them or game optimization reasons.  

I have been asking for this now for years. besides now the steering I wish they where able to go back to CMR 3 character animations it would rally add to the atmosphere.  Even DiRT2 had some variety when you got close to the crowds.  

I do understand there are always compromises and limitations, but it will continue to be on my wish list.  
Too bad about the steering, but it will be a blast nonetheless. Hopefully they will take this to the next game, and will be able to implement it in the new engine.
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JZStudios said:
I don't even know what a Skoda is.               
They're cars with very limited success in world rallying, whose name bear a remarkable resemblance to Sweden's word for "behold".
Fun fact: the word "škoda" literally means "damage" in Czech ;) It can also mean "too bad", as in "oh well, too bad that didn't work".

And yes, given the reliability of the cars, especially in the past, it's been a constant source of amusement and jokes amongst the Czech.

(The company is actually named after Emil Škoda, the owner of the large industrial company that bought the original Laurin & Klement car company in 1924, though, so just a coincidence.)

And as for Skoda's in Dirt Rally, I'd very much like to see the local rally legend Skoda 130RS featured. When driving the Alpine in DR, I always think it would feel somewhat similar, as it's the closest car to it in many aspects. John Haugland was the most famous international driver:

https://vimeo.com/107618598

But I guess it's even less likely than having some kind of Fabia or Octavia featured.
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Dytut said:
I just just realized that for the next game we'll hopefully have the 2017 WRC spec cars... *droooools*
For once I'm glad Toyota won't be in the game then... rally Yaris... oh come the f...

Honestly, I don't care how bonkers it may look and/or sound, it's still a Yaris :D
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@RyuMakkuro do you live in America?  cuz that sounds awfully familiar to the attitude most have here.  In the UK these small cars seem to be the norm, so I understand, but here with the wide open roads, it's a little different  
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gfRally said:
@RyuMakkuro do you live in America?  cuz that sounds awfully familiar to the attitude most have here.  In the UK these small cars seem to be the norm, so I understand, but here with the wide open roads, it's a little different  
I live in the country where people copy everything from America... Poland.

I know Yaris is a norm, which is the issue. Polo R isn't a norm, Fiesta RS/ST isn't a norm, i20 isn't a norm, DS3 isn't a norm as well. Those are slightly/a lot more... interesting versions of cars for teachers effectively, while Yaris is a car made for teachers (or rather for people that earn that kind of money).

I would really like for the WRC cars to be more of the "cool club of hot hatches", rather than the smallest and cheapest you can get for money. Even if it's just a name.
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gfRally said:
@RyuMakkuro do you live in America?  cuz that sounds awfully familiar to the attitude most have here.  In the UK these small cars seem to be the norm, so I understand, but here with the wide open roads, it's a little different  
I live in the country where people copy everything from America... Poland.

I know Yaris is a norm, which is the issue. Polo R isn't a norm, Fiesta RS/ST isn't a norm, i20 isn't a norm, DS3 isn't a norm as well. Those are slightly/a lot more... interesting versions of cars for teachers effectively, while Yaris is a car made for teachers (or rather for people that earn that kind of money).

I would really like for the WRC cars to be more of the "cool club of hot hatches", rather than the smallest and cheapest you can get for money. Even if it's just a name.


Thats interesting, and funny!  I do agree about the cars, I wish they would grow a little, like you said about the TARDIS, what next a smart car?  Maybe the lowest of low cars.  

The old cars where fast, group b cars where pretty big in some ways, up till what 2009 when Subaru left?  I don't know, probably talking out my butt.
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you said about the TARDIS, what next a smart car?  Maybe the lowest of low cars.  

The old cars where fast, group b cars where pretty big in some ways, up till what 2009 when Subaru left?  I don't know, probably talking out my butt.


Lol, TARDIS - Yaris, maybe my autocorrect is a Dr Who fan :neutral:
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Dytut said:
Modern WRC cars are about the same size as the group B Pug 205 and Delta S4. So it's not like they've shrunk to miniatures.


that's true, over here I don't have many real life references other than Subaru and Audi, but I here there are a few imported Lancias with race pedigree.  
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just to add SOMETHING to this dying thread :neutral:  Its rare that I step into bookstore anymore, but I needed to get away from a long and ongoing house project for a bit.  So Drones have caught my interest and there is a mag some in the UK may be formiliar with, creatively called "Drones Magazine".




Then a name from the past caught my eye, Alex Harvey, former Codies employee.

Here is excerpt



and now for some gossip, but from the past




Anyhow this is a brief inside look of what goes behind the scenes, and the developmet of DiRT Rally

Sorry on my phone, and having a hard time finding a direct link to the article.
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Yeah, the drones in DR are your generic handmade quad or hexacopters. Better than the DJI's anyways, they'll be bigger and can carry a full camera, not some version of a GoPro type deal. Not that that the Phantoms are bad, my friend has one, but making your own has more options. Also at this point drones are becoming so popular I expected them in DR. Pretty slick little find though. Do you have a drone?
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Yeah, the drones in DR are your generic handmade quad or hexacopters. Better than the DJI's anyways, they'll be bigger and can carry a full camera, not some version of a GoPro type deal. Not that that the Phantoms are bad, my friend has one, but making your own has more options. Also at this point drones are becoming so popular I expected them in DR. Pretty slick little find though. Do you have a drone?
No, almost bought a phantom a couple years ago.  But I read an article about 'fly offs' where you lose communication with ANY radio controlled vehicle and it just keeps following the same command.  Like if the last input it had was north, then it keeps flying till it runs out of battery or it hits something (or someone!)  So losing a $500 drone + $300 gopro like that scared me off.  Besides most of the places that I would like to use it I would need permission, which is a pain, or it just isn't allowed.  

For me its just not practical and the novelty would wear out quickly flying it around boring places.  
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The drones were supposed to be controlled? No suprise it didn't make it into the game, I expect the development behind such thing with a lot complexicity...all things like collisions, invisible walls, etc. would need to be taken care of, not to mention whole steering with this thing.

But that would allow us to make such a beautiful replays and screenshots. Gosh.
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versedi said:
The drones were supposed to be controlled? No suprise it didn't make it into the game, I expect the development behind such thing with a lot complexicity...all things like collisions, invisible walls, etc. would need to be taken care of, not to mention whole steering with this thing.

But that would allow us to make such a beautiful replays and screenshots. Gosh.
It would be like the free camera in any other game. Astoundingly surprised the engine can't seem to handle that.
gfRally said:
JZStudios said:
Yeah, the drones in DR are your generic handmade quad or hexacopters. Better than the DJI's anyways, they'll be bigger and can carry a full camera, not some version of a GoPro type deal. Not that that the Phantoms are bad, my friend has one, but making your own has more options. Also at this point drones are becoming so popular I expected them in DR. Pretty slick little find though. Do you have a drone?
No, almost bought a phantom a couple years ago.  But I read an article about 'fly offs' where you lose communication with ANY radio controlled vehicle and it just keeps following the same command.  Like if the last input it had was north, then it keeps flying till it runs out of battery or it hits something (or someone!)  So losing a $500 drone + $300 gopro like that scared me off.  Besides most of the places that I would like to use it I would need permission, which is a pain, or it just isn't allowed.  

For me its just not practical and the novelty would wear out quickly flying it around boring places.  
Maybe the old ones, the new phantoms have a return to home, so if it goes too far or gets too low it flies back. There's also a few boards you can buy for custom ones that do the same or better. Realistically, if they're flying that far, and losing it, their slightly huge idiots and don't know what they're doing. They should have the antennas that have like a 10 mile range and FPV goggles, or a laptop or something. And monitor battery life, it's really not that hard. We've only ever lost a plane because my dad got distracted looking at what I was doing while his went.... somewhere? That was only like a $150 foam sailplane though.
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A lot of VR related changes happening in the DiRT Rally steam configuration in the past few days, according to steamdb.info: https://steamdb.info/app/310560/history/?changeid=2076636

nVidia released a DiRT Rally VR Game ready driver: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/dirt-rally-vr-game-ready-driver-released

while existing PC players will receive the update via Steam this month. 

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Yeah, I think you're right.
"For existing owners of the game on Steam, a free update is headed your way this month, though no exact date was given."

Still, curious as to what's changed if anything. Not that I'd be taking any advantage of this, I probably won't have access to a VR headset for a very long time.
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