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dgeesi0 said:
didnt play dead space i still have the day 1 purchase of the retail copy on my desk :p

sorry but the menu system and immersion is just a waste to me. the immersion starts when im racing / rallying . not when im in a menu trying to find for ten minutes the buttons i want to use. the quicker it is to get in game the more fun you will have . unless they putting tetris in while you swap your options around.

to me some of the games you suggest that had bad UI are the better ones. dirt rally click click rallying.enough of what i need to see in. Dirt 4 was not great still stuff i think where is it after hundreds of hrs of playing it.
Question, do you play in cockpit view? Do you use the floating hud speedometer?

Dirt Rally has lots of unnecessary sub menus that I often forget where things are and yet again, the tile system pretty always proves to be a bad design choice. It just never works well. The hud in Dead Space IS the character which removes screen clutter.
Sorry that you think the Naughty Dog titles have super cluttered and confusing main menus and menu systems, even though it's the simplest easiest thing in the world.
Anything dudebro hoonigan gymkhana related is just cringeworthy in my book.
Agreed. Long Live DiRT 2.


This is a cool title screen too. Could just do silhouettes of cars in the background or something I don't know.
https://youtu.be/5JbvBB2Rjdg

It's a matter of presentation.
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Crazy stuff in a small place. Worth to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9v3-DMFyIs
I did post this a couple of pages back, but I think everyone was too busy arguing about menus to notice! :smiley:
Anything dudebro hoonigan gymkhana related is just cringeworthy in my book.
I can't stand anything dudebro, but the Hoonigans channel is one of my favourite channels on You Tube at the moment. They have some great cars on there and do some pretty looks at the builds. 

The above video doesn't cover the Fiesta in as much detail as I would like but, even if you don't like the speaking segment, it's worth watching just to see the car in action. Rallycross Supercars are utterly savage, and that Fiesta is one of the quickest examples. 
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Clearly you and I have very different ideas of "savage". :P Most modern stuff manages to look so bland regardless of how quick they're going.
600+ ft. lbs. of torque, ridiculous levels of boost and a launch that puts most cars to shame more than justifies the "savage" label in my eyes. The engineering - and capability - of a Supercar is, in my personal opinion, massively underrated. 
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Oh I have huge respect for the engineering behind it all. I just wish it wouldn't look so boring.
Out of interest, have you ever seen rallycross live? TV never seems to convey the speed of the cars well. The spectacle of a grid of rallycross Supercars leaving the grid is one of my all time favourite things in motorsport. (It's also one of the few things that I think the modern cars do better than the classics)
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there is nothing wrong with Ken Block or his style IMHO.I met him few times at rallies and hes super approchable and cool,and displays no pompousness.

Great driver,sportsman and founder of a great shoe line.He just has fun, and some people resent that for some reason.They should worry about their own style............

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there is probably nothing wrong with him at all most people just dont like how the whole hoonigan experience is presented to them. thats why he often gets flack. maybe they should change that image or representation of what Hoonigan is.then he maybe more acceptable. i guess thats more down to the number crunches. who look at growth.



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There is a stream of one of the biggest Folkrace(poor mans rallycross) festivals in Sweden going on right now. Finals are about to begin!

You collect points by position in heats compared to time in RX. 
The main thing about Folkrace is that every car is for sale for the fixed price of 850 Euro after the finals ends. If several people are interested one envelope is simply picked among the lot to decide who gets to buy it.
The price is obviously to keep costs as low as possible, but people are absolutely mental when it comes to the biggest weekends like this. There are lots of Volvos with dogboxes and engines in the 200-300BHP range. You do your own math ;)

https://sbfplay.solidtango.com/live/semesterracet-vimmerby-dag-5-finaldag-junior-senior
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bogani said:
There is a stream of one of the biggest Folkrace(poor mans rallycross) festivals in Sweden going on right now. Finals are about to begin!

You collect points by position in heats compared to time in RX. 
The main thing about Folkrace is that every car is for sale for the fixed price of 850 Euro after the finals ends. If several people are interested one envelope is simply picked among the lot to decide who gets to buy it.
The price is obviously to keep costs as low as possible, but people are absolutely mental when it comes to the biggest weekends like this. There are lots of Volvos with dogboxes and engines in the 200-300BHP range. You do your own math ;)

https://sbfplay.solidtango.com/live/semesterracet-vimmerby-dag-5-finaldag-junior-senior
I think there was also a rule that if someone wanted to buy the car, you had to sell it and couldn't refuze
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Didzis said:
bogani said:
There is a stream of one of the biggest Folkrace(poor mans rallycross) festivals in Sweden going on right now. Finals are about to begin!

You collect points by position in heats compared to time in RX. 
The main thing about Folkrace is that every car is for sale for the fixed price of 850 Euro after the finals ends. If several people are interested one envelope is simply picked among the lot to decide who gets to buy it.
The price is obviously to keep costs as low as possible, but people are absolutely mental when it comes to the biggest weekends like this. There are lots of Volvos with dogboxes and engines in the 200-300BHP range. You do your own math ;)

https://sbfplay.solidtango.com/live/semesterracet-vimmerby-dag-5-finaldag-junior-senior
I think there was also a rule that if someone wanted to buy the car, you had to sell it and couldn't refuze
Correct, that are the rules. You can't refuse. You can take part in the "lottery" yourself though if you want to try to keep your car.
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dgeesi0 said:
there is probably nothing wrong with him at all most people just dont like how the whole hoonigan experience is presented to them. thats why he often gets flack. maybe they should change that image or representation of what Hoonigan is.then he maybe more acceptable. i guess thats more down to the number crunches. who look at growth.
He doesn't do what he does to be liked, he does what he does because he's made enough money and can afford to do whatever he likes.
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bogani said:
Didzis said:
bogani said:
There is a stream of one of the biggest Folkrace(poor mans rallycross) festivals in Sweden going on right now. Finals are about to begin!

You collect points by position in heats compared to time in RX. 
The main thing about Folkrace is that every car is for sale for the fixed price of 850 Euro after the finals ends. If several people are interested one envelope is simply picked among the lot to decide who gets to buy it.
The price is obviously to keep costs as low as possible, but people are absolutely mental when it comes to the biggest weekends like this. There are lots of Volvos with dogboxes and engines in the 200-300BHP range. You do your own math ;)

https://sbfplay.solidtango.com/live/semesterracet-vimmerby-dag-5-finaldag-junior-senior
I think there was also a rule that if someone wanted to buy the car, you had to sell it and couldn't refuze
Correct, that are the rules. You can't refuse. You can take part in the "lottery" yourself though if you want to try to keep your car.
I remember seeing that on Top Gear, but how does it work? How do you keep someone from lowballing you?
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JZStudios said:
bogani said:
Didzis said:
bogani said:
There is a stream of one of the biggest Folkrace(poor mans rallycross) festivals in Sweden going on right now. Finals are about to begin!

You collect points by position in heats compared to time in RX. 
The main thing about Folkrace is that every car is for sale for the fixed price of 850 Euro after the finals ends. If several people are interested one envelope is simply picked among the lot to decide who gets to buy it.
The price is obviously to keep costs as low as possible, but people are absolutely mental when it comes to the biggest weekends like this. There are lots of Volvos with dogboxes and engines in the 200-300BHP range. You do your own math ;)

https://sbfplay.solidtango.com/live/semesterracet-vimmerby-dag-5-finaldag-junior-senior
I think there was also a rule that if someone wanted to buy the car, you had to sell it and couldn't refuze
Correct, that are the rules. You can't refuse. You can take part in the "lottery" yourself though if you want to try to keep your car.
I remember seeing that on Top Gear, but how does it work? How do you keep someone from lowballing you?
That's where the fixed price of 850 Euro comes in.
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JZStudios said:
bogani said:
Didzis said:
bogani said:
There is a stream of one of the biggest Folkrace(poor mans rallycross) festivals in Sweden going on right now. Finals are about to begin!

You collect points by position in heats compared to time in RX. 
The main thing about Folkrace is that every car is for sale for the fixed price of 850 Euro after the finals ends. If several people are interested one envelope is simply picked among the lot to decide who gets to buy it.
The price is obviously to keep costs as low as possible, but people are absolutely mental when it comes to the biggest weekends like this. There are lots of Volvos with dogboxes and engines in the 200-300BHP range. You do your own math ;)

https://sbfplay.solidtango.com/live/semesterracet-vimmerby-dag-5-finaldag-junior-senior
I think there was also a rule that if someone wanted to buy the car, you had to sell it and couldn't refuze
Correct, that are the rules. You can't refuse. You can take part in the "lottery" yourself though if you want to try to keep your car.
I remember seeing that on Top Gear, but how does it work? How do you keep someone from lowballing you?
It's all handeled officially by the organisers post race. When I did compete you had to have the cash in the envelope, if you were 5 quid short your buy was nullified. I'm not sure if that changed though.
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dgeesi0 said:
there is probably nothing wrong with him at all most people just dont like how the whole hoonigan experience is presented to them. thats why he often gets flack. maybe they should change that image or representation of what Hoonigan is.then he maybe more acceptable. i guess thats more down to the number crunches. who look at growth.
He doesn't do what he does to be liked, he does what he does because he's made enough money and can afford to do whatever he likes.
i was just trying to explain why many cant stand him. doesnt matter how much money he has he just comes across as a big of a nob.
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bogani personally the menu is not important the gameplaywith the wheel, the effects of shadows (yes we do not see anything I do the bike in the woods and I can see the road but on dirt we see nothing), the dashboard of the Ford R5 is not good on the real Ford R5 it has the engine speed but not the number of the gearbox, I play without HUD if I take a pin I do not know if I'm in first gear or neutral, that's why I never ride with the Ford R5 (be careful, I'm talking about the Ford R5 because it's a sequential gearbox for cars with the standard gearbox i use the th8a so no problem for me )https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBXIiRNMtJQ
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MrDeap said:
I personally think it's better to not into hatred perspective on an individual, just because of religion or xenophobia, whatever... It's quite immature & amusing to read at the same time. 
in this time in the world where nothing can be said but many think it its easy to just say everything is fine. still stands many cant stand him.
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dgeesi0 said:
MrDeap said:
I personally think it's better to not into hatred perspective on an individual, just because of religion or xenophobia, whatever... It's quite immature & amusing to read at the same time. 
in this time in the world where nothing can be said but many think it its easy to just say everything is fine. still stands many cant stand him.
I don't hate the dude, but imagine how great Dirt 3 would have been without his involvement. ;)
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gk9147 that onboard hurts my eyes. its like tyrian lanister is driving it :D

hate that cam position. dont get how people cant get this right. you want to see as much as possible in the clearest position. not a slit of the screen. looks a great run aswell.
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Ken Block seems to be a cool dude that does what he loves.

He is average driver at best (that makes him quiet competitive on USA's rally scene, and low rank in the Europe and WRC scene).
Gymkhana is a typical american invention with all it's pros and cones. I personally am not impressed with tricks that take multiple attempts to perfect so it looks nice on camera, but I guess it might appeal to some people. 

Long story short- I don't care about him TBH, but I wish he stays away from any game I would be interested in. 
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Ken Block seems to be a cool dude that does what he loves.

He is average driver at best (that makes him quiet competitive on USA's rally scene, and low rank in the Europe and WRC scene).
Gymkhana is a typical american invention with all it's pros and cones. I personally am not impressed with tricks that take multiple attempts to perfect so it looks nice on camera, but I guess it might appeal to some people. 

Long story short- I don't care about him TBH, but I wish he stays away from any game I would be interested in. 
He practices. He rarely ever screws up on early takes. It's just a game of taking the best shot.
To ask you a question, have you ever listened to music or watched a music video? Do you dislike them because they used the best take they had and practiced beforehand?
Do you think the European rally drivers just... don't practice?

BTW, his Climbkhana video where he drifts around a corner and hits a rock pile was his first attempt. Don't act like the dude doesn't have skill.
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Skill or not, it's still a weird concept that I personally just can't enjoy for the life of me. I simply fail to see the point.

And, like SamRWD, I too hope Ken Block stays very far away from future rally games, and leave them to actual rallying.
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He’s tied up with forza right now anyway. His relationship with them and ford, combined with ford’s new increased commitment to m sport is probably why the fiesta wrc is appareaing in the new horizon. With that and the C3 in The Crew, it’s quite possible we could see wrc cars back in the next dirt
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I actually think there never was a real issue with WRCars in racing games. I think Codemasters most likely didn't want to put them in DiRT 4 to be totally safe. Microsoft and Ubisoft can afford a lawsuit, Codemasters probably can't.
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JZStudios said:
Wow, so many things.
"He practices. He rarely ever screws up on early takes. It's just a game of taking the best shot."- (except from WRC where he made so many mistakes on stages he didn't know by every inch like he does in his videos) every rally driver could do that in a first shot, but that's not the point. 

"To ask you a question, have you ever listened to music or watched a music video? Do you dislike them because they used the best take they had and practiced beforehand?"
LOL. No, I don't. If I go to the restaurant, I also make sure chef practiced for years before I choose to dine at said place. But that was not the point.

"Do you think the European rally drivers just... don't practice?"
They do (in fact they wish they could practice more, but FIA limits tests days). But that was not the point.

"BTW, his Climbkhana video where he drifts around a corner and hits a rock pile was his first attempt. Don't act like the dude doesn't have skill."
So he has the skill because he hits a rock pile? LOL. 
Of course he has a skill, but he is nowhere near European drivers. WRC is cruel and even Dani Sordo struggles despite being amazing driver! BUT THAT WAS NOT THE POINT!
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Ken Block seems to be a cool dude that does what he loves.

He is average driver at best (that makes him quiet competitive on USA's rally scene, and low rank in the Europe and WRC scene).
Gymkhana is a typical american invention with all it's pros and cones. I personally am not impressed with tricks that take multiple attempts to perfect so it looks nice on camera, but I guess it might appeal to some people. 

Long story short- I don't care about him TBH, but I wish he stays away from any game I would be interested in. 
I'm fine with your opinion, but I must defend American Rally.  

Yes Ken Block does finish in the top 2-3 in rally's he enters here, David Higgins is his closest competitor who finished in the top 20 over all at the 2015 Wales rally GB - in a near production Subaru!  Just to put some perspective, if someone can do that in Europe at a WRC rally that is neck and neck with Block over here, then I do not see him (Block) as average.  Yes, he does poorly in WRC events, but he occasionally shows up at an event, so there is a lot of dust to shake off when he competes there and he is 10-15 years older than the top tier drivers.  I think he is better than average, stats don't always show the whole picture.  

Gymkhana never was intended to be a one take stunt video.  It was something that took off unexpectedly.  It got a lot of views and he saw it as a way to promote his brand and bring in sponsorship to pay for rally and whatever else.

Gymkhana ending up in a DiRT game was ok, but the way it was implemented (forced to play it to complete game) was not the right.  Personally I liked the fact that he was in it, but hated Gymkhana parts.

I think there a better people in the world but American rally needs anyone it can get to help promote the sport.  If Ken shows up at a rally here, he draws a huge crowd, and hopefully brings people back and they get the rally bug.  


Sorry, not meaning to cause an argument, hope you understand my comments.  :)
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Myself  I bought Dirt 4 last week for £19, which was more than enough for it and £19 more than Dirt Rally was ever worth.... Now what an appalling game that was.

But then that is the word here; game... In the day I was a very fortunate boy (and still am), my father owned several garages and at 17 I had full comp traders insurance, so I could drive anything I liked.....  Therefore at age 17 I used to own a Mini Cooper 1071 with an all steel engine/straight cut g/b ...... at age 18, an Avenger Tiger and Mk1 RS Mex, age 20 a Mk2 RS2000 and I raced them all, rallying them. My friends raced cars such as Audi Quattro, an ex-works Dolomite Sprint (awful!) even an ex-works Nissan and a Porsche 911.

Dirt like all other games however, is a game. One hears all this waffle about 'realism', realism is sitting in an actual car, actually racing.... If one can crash out hard and not risk death or at least a deeply broken bank balance, then it is a game..... That counts from an F1 Sim owned by an F1 team, right down to home user Xbox, PS and PC.

Once, to my consternation, I conversed with a Dirt dev and explained it was a game and required more control for the purchaser, that indeed Dirt Rally desperately required a rewind function  .... It is a single player game essentially, if one rewound it when crashing out of say a 12 minute stage @ 11.45 seconds, it would affect no ones life but that singular person's ... What do I get? "It would interfere with the integrity of the game" .... LOL, what? What integrity? It is a game man for pities sake... Talk about narcissistic self aggrandisement... I am still laughing now at that ludicrous statement.

Personally I have already pre-purchased RD2 and H4 Ultra .... Myself  I don't do Battlefield and whilst Fallout 4 was a very clever game as Fall Out 76 may well be, if I want to be deeply depressed I'll talk to my mother in law. The best any Dirt title will ever get from me however, is my pulling their stuff out of the 'remaindered' bin.

Dirt could be very good, could sell a great many more copies but somewhere it went badly wrong for them.... Dirt 2 & 3 were extremely good games but they have imo become lost since then... They have forgotten it is nothing more than a game, which people buy with their money and should therefore be able to enjoy without the interference of the dev's and their supposed 'integrity' .




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Myself  I bought Dirt 4 last week for £19, which was more than enough for it and £19 more than Dirt Rally was ever worth.... Now what an appalling game that was.

But then that is the word here; game... In the day I was a very fortunate boy (and still am), my father owned several garages and at 17 I had full comp traders insurance, so I could drive anything I liked.....  Therefore at age 17 I used to own a Mini Cooper 1071 with an all steel engine/straight cut g/b ...... at age 18, an Avenger Tiger and Mk1 RS Mex, age 20 a Mk2 RS2000 and I raced them all, rallying them. My friends raced cars such as Audi Quattro, an ex-works Dolomite Sprint (awful!) even an ex-works Nissan and a Porsche 911.

Dirt like all other games however, is a game. One hears all this waffle about 'realism', realism is sitting in an actual car, actually racing.... If one can crash out hard and not risk death or at least a deeply broken bank balance, then it is a game..... That counts from an F1 Sim owned by an F1 team, right down to home user Xbox, PS and PC.

Once, to my consternation, I conversed with a Dirt dev and explained it was a game and required more control for the purchaser, that indeed Dirt Rally desperately required a rewind function  .... It is a single player game essentially, if one rewound it when crashing out of say a 12 minute stage @ 11.45 seconds, it would affect no ones life but that singular person's ... What do I get? "It would interfere with the integrity of the game" .... LOL, what? What integrity? It is a game man for pities sake... Talk about narcissistic self aggrandisement... I am still laughing now at that ludicrous statement.

Personally I have already pre-purchased RD2 and H4 Ultra .... Myself  I don't do Battlefield and whilst Fallout 4 was a very clever game as Fall Out 76 may well be, if I want to be deeply depressed I'll talk to my mother in law. The best any Dirt title will ever get from me however, is my pulling their stuff out of the 'remaindered' bin.

Dirt could be very good, could sell a great many more copies but somewhere it went badly wrong for them.... Dirt 2 & 3 were extremely good games but they have imo become lost since then... They have forgotten it is nothing more than a game, which people buy with their money and should therefore be able to enjoy without the interference of the dev's and their supposed 'integrity' .




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Didzis said:
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BTW, his Climbkhana video where he drifts around a corner and hits a rock pile was his first attempt. Don't act like the dude doesn't have skill.
It was his second attempt. In one of The Hoonigans DTT episodes they talked about it
Maybe it was the first one filmed. It was a first for something. I think he did a lower speed run first.
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Mazier, i think you clearly misunderstand what kind of game Dirt Rally is, you clearly stated what kind of game you like, and that's ok too.

*Your* pompous feeling over the reason why they didn't have a rewind feature speaks more to what you want from a game than what DR is trying to be; that you couldn't see why it didn't exist, again speaks to what you don't understand about DR.

To be clear, the reason it didn't have one, is because the game had a high skill ceiling, it was designed for you to take more care and consideration in your racing, rather than not caring at all because you could just hit rewind.


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Myself  I bought Dirt 4 last week for £19, which was more than enough for it and £19 more than Dirt Rally was ever worth.... Now what an appalling game that was.

But then that is the word here; game... In the day I was a very fortunate boy (and still am), my father owned several garages and at 17 I had full comp traders insurance, so I could drive anything I liked.....  Therefore at age 17 I used to own a Mini Cooper 1071 with an all steel engine/straight cut g/b ...... at age 18, an Avenger Tiger and Mk1 RS Mex, age 20 a Mk2 RS2000 and I raced them all, rallying them. My friends raced cars such as Audi Quattro, an ex-works Dolomite Sprint (awful!) even an ex-works Nissan and a Porsche 911.

Dirt like all other games however, is a game. One hears all this waffle about 'realism', realism is sitting in an actual car, actually racing.... If one can crash out hard and not risk death or at least a deeply broken bank balance, then it is a game..... That counts from an F1 Sim owned by an F1 team, right down to home user Xbox, PS and PC.

Once, to my consternation, I conversed with a Dirt dev and explained it was a game and required more control for the purchaser, that indeed Dirt Rally desperately required a rewind function  .... It is a single player game essentially, if one rewound it when crashing out of say a 12 minute stage @ 11.45 seconds, it would affect no ones life but that singular person's ... What do I get? "It would interfere with the integrity of the game" .... LOL, what? What integrity? It is a game man for pities sake... Talk about narcissistic self aggrandisement... I am still laughing now at that ludicrous statement.

Personally I have already pre-purchased RD2 and H4 Ultra .... Myself  I don't do Battlefield and whilst Fallout 4 was a very clever game as Fall Out 76 may well be, if I want to be deeply depressed I'll talk to my mother in law. The best any Dirt title will ever get from me however, is my pulling their stuff out of the 'remaindered' bin.

Dirt could be very good, could sell a great many more copies but somewhere it went badly wrong for them.... Dirt 2 & 3 were extremely good games but they have imo become lost since then... They have forgotten it is nothing more than a game, which people buy with their money and should therefore be able to enjoy without the interference of the dev's and their supposed 'integrity' .




So what your saying is, to make it better, Dirt Rally needs either a rewind feature, or some kind of weapon that is capable of hurting or even killing you in real life if you crash hard enough? 

If any devs are reading this, for God’s sake put flashbacks in dirt 5!
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Mazier777 said:
Myself  I bought Dirt 4 last week for £19, which was more than enough for it and £19 more than Dirt Rally was ever worth.... Now what an appalling game that was.

But then that is the word here; game... In the day I was a very fortunate boy (and still am), my father owned several garages and at 17 I had full comp traders insurance, so I could drive anything I liked.....  Therefore at age 17 I used to own a Mini Cooper 1071 with an all steel engine/straight cut g/b ...... at age 18, an Avenger Tiger and Mk1 RS Mex, age 20 a Mk2 RS2000 and I raced them all, rallying them. My friends raced cars such as Audi Quattro, an ex-works Dolomite Sprint (awful!) even an ex-works Nissan and a Porsche 911.

Dirt like all other games however, is a game. One hears all this waffle about 'realism', realism is sitting in an actual car, actually racing.... If one can crash out hard and not risk death or at least a deeply broken bank balance, then it is a game..... That counts from an F1 Sim owned by an F1 team, right down to home user Xbox, PS and PC.

Once, to my consternation, I conversed with a Dirt dev and explained it was a game and required more control for the purchaser, that indeed Dirt Rally desperately required a rewind function  .... It is a single player game essentially, if one rewound it when crashing out of say a 12 minute stage @ 11.45 seconds, it would affect no ones life but that singular person's ... What do I get? "It would interfere with the integrity of the game" .... LOL, what? What integrity? It is a game man for pities sake... Talk about narcissistic self aggrandisement... I am still laughing now at that ludicrous statement.

Personally I have already pre-purchased RD2 and H4 Ultra .... Myself  I don't do Battlefield and whilst Fallout 4 was a very clever game as Fall Out 76 may well be, if I want to be deeply depressed I'll talk to my mother in law. The best any Dirt title will ever get from me however, is my pulling their stuff out of the 'remaindered' bin.

Dirt could be very good, could sell a great many more copies but somewhere it went badly wrong for them.... Dirt 2 & 3 were extremely good games but they have imo become lost since then... They have forgotten it is nothing more than a game, which people buy with their money and should therefore be able to enjoy without the interference of the dev's and their supposed 'integrity' .




"Talk about narcissistic self aggrandisement..." While I admire and applaud you for having the fortune and ability to rally in real life and drive whatever you want from a young age, that does not apply to everyone. Some of us have to do with a game. Dirt Rally has been lauded as a great rally game. Unforgiving and challenging, yes, but a lot of people like the fact that it provides such a challenge without relying on the safety net of flashbacks. Sometimes in life, as you point out, things go wrong and there are consequences. That should happen in a game as well. Is it frustrating? Certainly. Is it rewarding when you get a perfect or near-perfect run without having to go back 10 seconds to fix something? Especially so. While it's obvious that we have different tastes in what makes an extremely good game vs. an appalling one, I think it's silly to say that Dirt Rally is flawed because it's challenging and you aren't allowed to rewind, and therefore cannot be fun.
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https://twitter.com/alexalonso1987/status/1009855949761318913

As you know, the Kylotonn Team has grown a lot in the past few years. They are able to handle different projects at the same time, but for 2018, let's celebrate the come-back of V-Rally 4. More information regarding any potential WRC sequel will be given at a later date.
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gk9147 said:
 deegsi0 i love driving in onboard views  
There are different type of interest. Some prefer to seek the ultimate lap while totally exploit the game physic based on the input & whatever can be achieved, some just prefer for immersion.

I'm the type to favor interaction over immersion. I won't judge anybody from their preference. Obviously the difficulty is higher, which lead to an handicap. There's multiple way to enjoy the game.

Although when you present onboard view, it's hard to access the result of the performance execution behind it. But in most cases, the execution isn't so pretty & may not bring excitement for everyone due to the handicap.
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 MrDeap  maybe but me what makes me laugh is when I hear simracer who want to become pilots while they do not drive in good view personally I would like to see competitions e-sport official (GT, pcars ..... ) with the view cokpit it would be more interesting to watch and especially more serious ( I sometimes watch races on iracing except racing nascar turn round is annoying)

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 MrDeap  maybe but me what makes me laugh is when I hear simracer who want to become pilots while they do not drive in good view personally I would like to see competitions e-sport official (GT, pcars ..... ) with the view cokpit it would be more interesting to watch and especially more serious ( I sometimes watch races on iracing except racing nascar turn round is annoying)

Sebastien Loeb uses hood view in his own rally game. How does that make you feel?
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gk9147 said:
 MrDeap  maybe but me what makes me laugh is when I hear simracer who want to become pilots while they do not drive in good view personally I would like to see competitions e-sport official (GT, pcars ..... ) with the view cokpit it would be more interesting to watch and especially more serious ( I sometimes watch races on iracing except racing nascar turn round is annoying)

The normal cockpit view where you see the interior, wheel etc is far too restricted to represent what your vision would see in real life. The dash cam is better in that regard.
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