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1 minute ago, PJTierney said:

Petty arguments and pot-shots don't benefit anyone, I recommend you all take a breather for a while 🙂

 

@chrisjaf Thanks for the livery feedback. An editor is not in the plans for DiRT Rally 2.0 but if we're doing any future "original liveries" yours and everyone else's feedback is taken into consideration.

thank you pj,a little bit more creativity is all is needed.

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4 minutes ago, chrisjaf said:

i love you,thanks you been looking in my bedroom window ???????? lol

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9 minutes ago, chrisjaf said:

asking politely gets you ignored so screeching seems to be only thing that works look how quickly people have jumped on my posts

providing constructive criticism is what's needed. calling the game a buggy mess and the makers incompetent just means nobody takes you seriously, because it's obviously wrong.

sure, the liveries need work (a lot of it in some cases), but it's not that simple to "just" add an editor into the game hahaha

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1 minute ago, ianism said:

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providing constructive criticism is what's needed. calling the game a buggy mess and the makers incompetent just means nobody takes you seriously, because it's obviously wrong.

sure, the liveries need work (a lot of it in some cases), but it's not that simple to "just" add an editor into the game hahaha

you misunderstand me i don't want a livery editor,just a little more creativity and imagination like other peoples posts on forums,and devs to spend that valuable time on the buggs in the game so the game can be what we all want it to be.the game play is the main part that needs work so let the devs do that instead of liveries that are only a small part of the game.get the basics right then work on the fine details.

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4 minutes ago, chrisjaf said:

so let the devs do that instead of liveries

*sigh*

That's not how game development works. The people making liveries are not the ones who work on game engine stuff. 'Developers' are not an undifferentiated, interchangeable mass, they have specialist skills, and are a limited resource. There are other games that need more attention than DR2 at the moment.

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hows this you inspire your devs with a cool wall like on top gear with peoples liveries that have been posted on forums and come to some sort of compromise with the sponsors and add remove any that infringe copyright.

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4 minutes ago, caerphoto said:

*sigh*

That's not how game development works. The people making liveries are not the ones who work on game engine stuff. 'Developers' are not an undifferentiated, interchangeable mass, they have specialist skills, and are a limited resource. There are other games that need more attention than DR2 at the moment.

just a little more creativity and imagination,your good at selective reading as well as window watching lol

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20 minutes ago, chrisjaf said:

you misunderstand me i don't want a livery editor,just a little more creativity and imagination like other peoples posts on forums,and devs to spend that valuable time on the buggs in the game so the game can be what we all want it to be.the game play is the main part that needs work so let the devs do that instead of liveries that are only a small part of the game.get the basics right then work on the fine details.

you asked for a livery editor 2 hours ago:

2 hours ago, chrisjaf said:

just add livery editor to game instead of wasting devs time so they can get on with fixing the game !!!!!!!!!!!!! liveries more important than fixing the game ?.

and you implied that the people who make liveries are the same as the ones that fix bugs. which is just hilariously wrong.

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i ask for them to fix the game.and your saying those same devs don't have work to do no the game itself as in graphics and scenery art department come on behave yourself sonny.the livery editor was a suggestion in response to the lack of imagination in codies offerings and not de facto you must implement it at once,if only it was that easy the game would be AMAZING,

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Good god. Here's something completely different.

In a bit of self reference...

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I'm not very good with the Forza editor, and I don't know how to make it look more "froggy." I still enjoy it though.

 

Hmm, that last picture is kind of blurry, but I do like the rather annoyed looking Vipers.

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Forza's editor is great (I've used it myself), it's also a remarkable piece of tech that takes tons of work to not only implement but convince licensors is okay to use.

That's outside of the scope of DiRT Rally 2.0, but who knows what the future may bring.

 

What isn't outside the scope of this game are the Group B Rallycross cars; I've got word that they should be live for everyone on all platforms now, so get out there and throw some sideways action 😄 

 

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2 hours ago, PJTierney said:

Forza's editor is great (I've used it myself), it's also a remarkable piece of tech that takes tons of work to not only implement but convince licensors is okay to use.

That's outside of the scope of DiRT Rally 2.0, but who knows what the future may bring.

I was self referencing to when stutterbstetst said it was an ugly car and I said it looks like a frog. Otherwise it's basically just a project from view. The usable resolution along with total layer count has increased significantly. The original Forza I think was only something like 100 layers per panel and the "texel" resolution was pretty low so things were blurry, especially if they were angled. Now I'm using pixel accuracy on a 4k tv and its got like 3000 layers per panel.

 

Also fun fact, that' my buddys Xbox since I have PC and PS4, and he just walked in when I had the words "Daddy love" done. He doesn't get the reference.

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14 hours ago, caerphoto said:

. There are other games that need more attention than DR2 at the moment.

Yeah, F1 2019 🤣

i think Dirt Rally 2 has improved a hell of a lot since release. The patches since since PJ arrived were also a lot more effective at tackling the higher priority issues with the game. May have been a coincidence. Ffb, blurry ps4 graphics and AI all fixed within close proximity of each other. The first few patches back in march and april fixed minor things like font and in game text.

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50 minutes ago, Pieman99 said:

Yeah, F1 2019 🤣

i think Dirt Rally 2 has improved a hell of a lot since release. The patches since since PJ arrived were also a lot more effective at tackling the higher priority issues with the game. May have been a coincidence. Ffb, blurry ps4 graphics and AI all fixed within close proximity of each other. 

PJ is doing a superb job, but i don't think it was his arrival that got fixed the FFB and blurry ps4 graphics, those issues were fixed before, AFAIK... We have to give credit to the development team, the patches are rolling at a somewhat slow pace, but the team is working on it, and steadily fixing the main issues...

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7 hours ago, chrisjaf said:

i ask for them to fix the game.and your saying those same devs don't have work to do no the game itself as in graphics and scenery art department come on behave yourself sonny.the livery editor was a suggestion in response to the lack of imagination in codies offerings and not de facto you must implement it at once,if only it was that easy the game would be AMAZING,

a) they're working on stuff, chill. most of the big issues are done. go look at the bug reporting threads. off the top of my head:

AI is better.

FFB is better.

graphical issues are fixed.

loading times are faster.

rain effects are better

clubs are in

b) keep in mind most of the people working on the game got moved over to F1 2019 and now (probably) Grid. there probably aren't too many scenery people left for example.

c) the game isn't a mess like you claim.

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i readed on twitter comments on Dirtgame, someone suggestion 2005 Australia livery for Ford Focus 2007, i completely forgot about debut livery for Focus mk2. its Castrol and Michelin, which CODIES and they have good good relationship. and they did use alreadey 2005 WRC livery without problem on Skoda Fabia 

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10 hours ago, Opassac said:

PJ is doing a superb job, but i don't think it was his arrival that got fixed the FFB and blurry ps4 graphics, those issues were fixed before, AFAIK... We have to give credit to the development team, the patches are rolling at a somewhat slow pace, but the team is working on it, and steadily fixing the main issues...

The first update I was involved in relaying community feedback for was 1.6.

I joined just as Season 2 started (205 RX and RS200 RX).

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4 minutes ago, JorritVD said:

Is it me or are the social channels of World RX posting more about DR2.0 again? We will know in August i guess more about the future seasons / DLC.

It is the official game afterall 😉

 

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1 hour ago, JorritVD said:

Is it me or are the social channels of World RX posting more about DR2.0 again? We will know in August i guess more about the future seasons / DLC.

social media channels are basically business advertising. i dont even look at them as contact platforms or even random gossips . just lets sell whatever. did see today a lot of posts on the subject you talking about. it is sometimes frustrating for me especially when i look at social media platforms. see what they doing often for no other reason that to sell a item. or promote it . also for eg with dirt rally 2.0 pictures being the big thing promoting the game with a tool we dont even have in game. its like we dont want to add a photo tool in the game but we will market our game and promote every picture of the game with the tool to make money. :classic_biggrin: having suggested for close to 2 years probably saying this then seeing the pictures used with said tool i do get frustrated.

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8 minutes ago, dgeesi0 said:

with dirt rally 2.0 pictures being the big thing promoting the game with a tool we dont even have in game. its like we dont want to add a photo tool in the game but we will market our game and promote every picture of the game with the tool to make money. :classic_biggrin: having suggested for close to 2 years probably saying this then seeing the pictures used with said tool i do get frustrated.

I'm not trying to sell anything with the community photos in particular. I just think they're awesome and want to put the "social" back into our Social Media channels 😉 

People on the team are certainly taking notice of those screens though, in various ways that may or may not have future game implications 🙂 

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Don't you guys forget there may be a big batch of the DiRT Team busy with the VR implementation. Everyone forgets that little big detail when complaining about late patch rollouts.

I may be wrong on this statement, as in it's whatever sponsor that is developing the VR implementation instead of the DiRT Team. But combine that with the fact that F1 2019 just got released, plus GRID development is at full gas to get released and there you get the answer for the delays on some bug fixes.

A fact is, patches have been rolling out in a constant pace and they've been ironing out the game considerably so far. There's still a lot to fix but I'm sure we'll get there. More importantly: it's being done. It's not like there's radio silence about it anymore.

DiRT4 didn't get half of the attention, and apparently it's the main title (although the Rally spin-offs have been destroying the main series).

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1 hour ago, Riggs said:

Don't you guys forget there may be a big batch of the DiRT Team busy with the VR implementation. Everyone forgets that little big detail when complaining about late patch rollouts.

I may be wrong on this statement, as in it's whatever sponsor that is developing the VR implementation instead of the DiRT Team. But combine that with the fact that F1 2019 just got released, plus GRID development is at full gas to get released and there you get the answer for the delays on some bug fixes.

A fact is, patches have been rolling out in a constant pace and they've been ironing out the game considerably so far. There's still a lot to fix but I'm sure we'll get there. More importantly: it's being done. It's not like there's radio silence about it anymore.

DiRT4 didn't get half of the attention, and apparently it's the main title (although the Rally spin-offs have been destroying the main series).

yeah, isn't it an outside company? I'm like 95% sure about this.

I wouldn't say there's a 'main' Dirt series any more. there's just two concurrent types of Dirt games that exist now (three if you count Showdown, but let's not). also... keep in mind that Dirt 2 and 3 are still the best-selling games in the franchise, I think.

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Handing the VR lift off to a new team, even if it external, definitely does not mean that CM magically frees up all the resources that would have been working on it. You still are going to be required to keep some % of those resources on VR communication and integration with the vendor, and that % can vary drastically depending on how easily the work is flowing that sprint.

 

It definitely would help, but I'm sure CM has a few people working closely with any outside team on the VR implementation. 

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I know many will disagree with me, but: I hope that august-teasing is not/or not only referencing to VR.

I don't care about VR.

VR is expensive and I play on xbox one s anyway, so no VR for me for sure.

Don't get me wrong, I would use it, if I had the money for special luxury like that, but I would rather spend that for a good wheel and pedals before this anyway.

 

Same for eSports. If it's only eSports announcement without really new content, it would be disappointing, too.

I just want more fixes, locations, stages for existing locations and cars. In this order.

Even more RX would be ok. Did the My Team RX-career yesterday for the first time, was quite fun with the delta (but pretty boring, because open class is ridiculously slow).

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Am I the only one bothered by how the AI RX cars aren't either washed or repaired between races? A few updates ago it was said that they were being washed between races, but it doesn't seem to be the case for me, at least on Group B RX.

VR is the most superflous thing ever. I'm so tired of elitist people saying on the comments of everything "NO VR NO BUY LOL". Meanwhile my gaming PC is turning 4 years old, starting to show its age (Can't play DR2.0 fully maxed out) but I can't afford a full replacement right now. Can't even afford a wheel.

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6 hours ago, PJTierney said:

I'm not trying to sell anything with the community photos in particular. I just think they're awesome and want to put the "social" back into our Social Media channels 😉 

People on the team are certainly taking notice of those screens though, in various ways that may or may not have future game implications 🙂 

didnt mean you personally i meant social media in general. its a business platform that started out as people chatting. i do hope we get picture photo mode included at some point.

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4 hours ago, Nico said:

Am I the only one bothered by how the AI RX cars aren't either washed or repaired between races? A few updates ago it was said that they were being washed between races, but it doesn't seem to be the case for me, at least on Group B RX.

VR is the most superflous thing ever. I'm so tired of elitist people saying on the comments of everything "NO VR NO BUY LOL". Meanwhile my gaming PC is turning 4 years old, starting to show its age (Can't play DR2.0 fully maxed out) but I can't afford a full replacement right now. Can't even afford a wheel.

I’m also bothered about. I thought I posted it as a bug. What I noticed is that the RX car will only be washed when it gets repaired. So if you have no damage, it will also not be cleaned... but it should be automatically be cleaned when return to the paddock... irl they have a kärcher teams at WRX events.

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I mean, I know rallycross is one of the few types of motorsport were contact is allowed, but precisely due to that I suppose cars must get repaired and washed very, very frequently. Especially if you have tons of sponsors displayed. In this game your car is only washed if you repair it, and you can repair it only if you have any sort of damage. AI cars just go into racing regardless of their damage / dirt. It's a bit annoying.

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14 hours ago, UnderclassGDfan said:

I know many will disagree with me, but: I hope that august-teasing is not/or not only referencing to VR. I don't care about VR. VR is expensive and I play on xbox one s anyway, so no VR for me for sure. Don't get me wrong, I would use it, if I had the money for special luxury like that, but I would rather spend that for a good wheel and pedals before th anyway.

Same for eSports. If it's only eSports announcement without really new content, it would be disappointing, too.

I just want more fixes, locations, stages for existing locations and cars. In this order. Even more RX would be ok. Did the My Team RX-career yesterday for the first time, was quite fun with the delta (but pretty boring, because open class is ridiculously slow).

I kind of agree, in that I have no interest (yet) in VR – I can't afford either a headset or a PC fast enough to meet the likely requirements for DR2. On the other hand, I do think VR is a good thing for the game: it's good publicity, it encourages word of mouth, and let's not forget, DR2 is basically the only good modern rally game right now, and it's not looking like WRC8 will have VR.

I, too, want more locations and all the bugs fixed (more optimistic about the latter than the former) but again, if the esports stuff brings in more money then we all win. More money = potentially more resources for the things higher up on our personal priority lists.

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8 hours ago, Nico said:

I mean, I know rallycross is one of the few types of motorsport were contact is allowed, but precisely due to that I suppose cars must get repaired and washed very, very frequently. Especially if you have tons of sponsors displayed. In this game your car is only washed if you repair it, and you can repair it only if you have any sort of damage. AI cars just go into racing regardless of their damage / dirt. It's a bit annoying.

Its a "bug" how it now works 😉

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I don't want this talent-less dude to destroy any more valuable classic rally cars. Keep any Lancia far away from him, please.

So glad DiRT got rid of him. DiRT 2 and 3 hold good memories but certainly haven't aged well. Showdown was a massive, buggy flop.

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1 hour ago, Nico said:

I don't want this talent-less dude to destroy any more valuable classic rally cars. Keep any Lancia far away from him, please.

So glad DiRT got rid of him. DiRT 2 and 3 hold good memories but certainly haven't aged well. Showdown was a massive, buggy flop.

I wish you had at least 10% of his skills. I don't really get why people are so mad about him. He is just doing what 95% of population can't do. He is just ENJOYING his life and sharing passion for rallying and great cars with bigger audience. Thats it. 

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1 hour ago, Nico said:

I don't want this talent-less dude to destroy any more valuable classic rally cars. Keep any Lancia far away from him, please.

So glad DiRT got rid of him. DiRT 2 and 3 hold good memories but certainly haven't aged well. Showdown was a massive, buggy flop.

Dirt 2 and 3 have aged very well, what are you talking about?

And you don't need Mr. Talent-less to destroy a Lancia, the Italian engineering will do that all on it's own.

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