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BrySkye said:

OzoreXS said:
BrySkye said:
OzoreXS said:
KevM said:
The car even looks like it handles better now.  There was virtually no way before that you could have carried as much speed and 4 wheel slide through a corner.  This will be a re-learning curve for sure!
When I carried a lot of speed into a corner, the car went up on two wheels... this made me not trust it.
Can that be possible (on gravel)? Physics issue?
Sure it's possible. Rally cars are more susceptible than most racing cars as well between a higher CoG, softer suspension and less downforce.
Compared to a circuit racer, a rally car is like a Land Rover.
That's the fine line between driving to the limits and exceeding them.
I can clearly see what you mean on tarmac... but its not so clear when we´re talking about gravel/mud. Reaching such level of grip on gravel I think its impossible... even in turns with bad camber.

Dont know... I´m not an expert and never driven a rally car.
It's not just about grip. In fact, lack of grip can potentially make it worse as it allows you to get more sideways with more speed. 
Suspension on one side fully compressed, and fully uncompressed on the other side.
Throw in a higher CoG and you have all the components of a roll. If you're going fast enough, it's not going to take too much in the way of a bump or undulation to push it over the edge.
https://youtu.be/YLzu2LT6gHI

Do you find this plausible? at the top of that litle crest? Its hard to believe it can happen that way.
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KevM said:
@OzoreXS Pretty sure that they're working on this as I have pointed it out before.
It doesn't look like something that couldn't happen though.  
Yea and you gotta keep in mind, we're probably doing crazier stuff with those cars than those rally drivers would do in real life. Because we've got a restart button anyways, and it's not like we'll die if we crash into a tree as fast as we can.
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...and all without an elite team of expert engineers strongly advising us that we really shouldn't be leaving the service park, never mind doing 100mph over a crest with our suspension setup the way it is! :)


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Hey , for everybody still at work, I'll leave this here too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eyvr7oGv5U
This looks so good. Love that SWRT livery!

My only gripe (and I feel like a bit of a dick posting critique on new content) is the engine sound: doesn't sound like an Impreza WRC? 
How many different sounds do these scooby's make!? ;)
Oh you'd be surprised!

The S12b is the best sounding WRC imo

https://youtu.be/s0Ehhu5NzD8
I struggle to decide on the best sounding Impreza WRC! The S12b sounds sublime on full chat, but the S7 - S11 all made loads of turbo noise and had very aggressive sounding anti-lag...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDt432CsAk

...(still jealous that you got to spend a day watching someone play with an Impreza WRC @Rallycameraman )
The Group A car but it's been tweaked a little. 
Ah, that explains why it's the sound of an Impreza with unequal length headers then. Another Impreza for you to master the audio for @soundfx !

I guess you missed this video where I spent the day with an S11 and S12b 

https://youtu.be/IObTOwLVYHA
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tbtstt said:
SkyRex said:
Hey , for everybody still at work, I'll leave this here too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eyvr7oGv5U
This looks so good. Love that SWRT livery!

My only gripe (and I feel like a bit of a dick posting critique on new content) is the engine sound: doesn't sound like an Impreza WRC? 
How many different sounds do these scooby's make!? ;)
Oh you'd be surprised!

The S12b is the best sounding WRC imo

https://youtu.be/s0Ehhu5NzD8
I struggle to decide on the best sounding Impreza WRC! The S12b sounds sublime on full chat, but the S7 - S11 all made loads of turbo noise and had very aggressive sounding anti-lag...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDt432CsAk

...(still jealous that you got to spend a day watching someone play with an Impreza WRC @Rallycameraman )
The Group A car but it's been tweaked a little. 
Ah, that explains why it's the sound of an Impreza with unequal length headers then. Another Impreza for you to master the audio for @soundfx !

I guess you missed this video where I spent the day with an S11 and S12b 

https://youtu.be/IObTOwLVYHA
You got to spend a day with my two fave generations of Impreza WRC and I wasn't invited...




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Are there any infos or hint's what the Modern Masters Pack will contain?
What are your thoughts?  :)
I need to watch that section of the stream back again, but I seem to remember a couple of very vague clues. Personally, I'm hoping we don't have too many new classes added and current ones are padded out a little. Group A, 2000s and 2010s are all 'modern' classes that could do with an extra car or two.

Sent thoughts of mine:
- We were told 'over 15' cars were in production and 8 have been released since. Assuming all have licensing approval, that means there are potentially 8 or so still in planning. I'd guess that means 5 or so are likely to be in this pack.

- The latest two cars being "2000s" and not "2001" would suggest there won't also be a late 2000s group for the other Focus and C4 (and if no C4 will there be any rallying Citroens at all?).

- We know there'll be a new class though, so what could this be? According to the stream they won't be the most iconic, but 'fan favourites'. S


S2000 stands out for me; the cars were superb leaders of the IRC days, they have sound recordings for 2 already, they have several Peugeots and Fiats already as well as the two models. Add a Skoda or Fiesta there and you've got a great class with modern cars with a little less power than the WRC cars. I'm sure we'll get a few more clues, so that guess will most likely evolve over the month. Hope there is a new 2000 or 2010 car in there somewhere too.
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Myrvold said:
Lancer 6.5? Seat Cordoba? Skoda Octavia? Nah, those are my personal favorites.

I do however struggle to get the "modern masters" though, as we already have two 2010's, unless they've managed to get the DS3 and Polo in.
They could add one car to both 2010s and 2000s(Polo and Lancer?) and  one new class with three cars(S2000?). Well that's my theory anyway as we would have 3 cars per modern class. Thoughts?
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HereStephanSRT said:
Are there any infos or hint's what the Modern Masters Pack will contain?
What are your thoughts?  :)
Here what we won't get because toyota are made of assholes right now


It may be a budget issue to, Toyota may want too much for the license, and they can't afford it with the CURRENT budget.  Maybe the next game will have a larger budget since Codies sees the success that DiRT Rally is.  
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gfRally said:
RookieOne said:
HereStephanSRT said:
Are there any infos or hint's what the Modern Masters Pack will contain?
What are your thoughts?  :)
Here what we won't get because toyota are made of assholes right now


It may be a budget issue to, Toyota may want too much for the license, and they can't afford it with the CURRENT budget.  Maybe the next game will have a larger budget since Codies sees the success that DiRT Rally is.  

I spoke about this with Lee a while back when we first visited, not sure if I can say the reason, but I think it was basically that Toyota just wouldn't give it to them
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gfRally said:
RookieOne said:
HereStephanSRT said:
Are there any infos or hint's what the Modern Masters Pack will contain?
What are your thoughts?  :)
Here what we won't get because toyota are made of assholes right now


It may be a budget issue to, Toyota may want too much for the license, and they can't afford it with the CURRENT budget.  Maybe the next game will have a larger budget since Codies sees the success that DiRT Rally is.  

I spoke about this with Lee a while back when we first visited, not sure if I can say the reason, but I think it was basically that Toyota just wouldn't give it to them
We'll never know the full story. TRD said they'd never been approached about DiRT Rally, but they had been by Milestone for SLRE. In fact, it was TRD that basically revealed Toyota would be in SLRE before an actual announcement was made.
One of the problems with a huge company like Toyota is something as mundane as your point of contact might make a huge difference.
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Sidenote:TRD (Toyota Racing Developments) have none say into rallycars as they have not made one(well except Pikes Peak vehicles).The Toyota branch responsible for rallying are the TMG(Toyota Motorsport Group) formerly known as TTE (Toyota Team Europe).Those are the people behind the Celicas,the Corollas and the proto of the new Yaris WRC.
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Doesn't mean they licence them though. That could be corporate, TMG (former TTE) or a separate entity. It's really hard to fathom is the Toyota situation; makes so little sense (though no fault of that with Codemasters) that they'd allow one game to use it and not another, without a clear difference between them or an exclusivity deal.

Would love an ST185 myself, but if it doesn't happen it doesn't; they've done a great job on the car list so far and looking forward to finding out what's to come.
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macebig said:
Sidenote:TRD (Toyota Racing Developments) have none say into rallycars as they have not made one(well except Pikes Peak vehicles).The Toyota branch responsible for rallying are the TMG(Toyota Motorsport Group) formerly known as TTE (Toyota Team Europe).Those are the people behind the Celicas,the Corollas and the proto of the new Yaris WRC.
I was going by memory. It was TMG who talked about SLRE and said they hadn't been contacted by Codemasters and were unaware of DiRT Rally (also that its not their responsibility to be aware of all racing games in the works).
What I meant stands though: point of contact.
Milestone seem to have gone to Toyota via TMG, who may have helped encourage corporate or those responsible within the company.
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Looks like Seb Loeb Rally Evo will have Loheac RX track, see their recent postings on https://www.facebook.com/SLRallyEvo

Also, this car: https://twitter.com/redbullITA/status/649890641309237248/photo/1 
Great to see Loheac will be represented in game... pity the screenshots they have posted on Facebook don't look more like the real thing!
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https://m.reddit.com/r/dirtgame/comments/36j0e4/periodic_table_of_dirt_car_list_at_codemasters/
The periodic table have predicted every car so far, so maybe it will be more or less the final car list, i think that it will be near complete :p cant wait for r5 or n4. Dont expect evo 6.5 wrc in dirt rally, i think
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He was talking about a possible entry-level rallycross class... finger crossed for folkrace/bilcross.
I would imagine RX Lites would make most sense, being a one-make and based on a Fiesta (and clearly a good relationship with Ford already). Personally I don't see the need, the basic RX cars are set up easily enough to control, but that would make most sense to me.
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Yes, but no cars out from that list will be in game
Do you mean no cars not on that list will be in the game? Because there are already three in Dirt Rally that aren't on it: Fiesta RS Rally (2010s), 205 T16 Pikes Peak, and the Polo Rallycross.

It's a fun list, but I wouldn't put a lot of faith in it—and I'm the one who spent all his time compiling it!
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Yes, but no cars out from that list will be in game
Do you mean no cars not on that list will be in the game? Because there are already three in Dirt Rally that aren't on it: Fiesta RS Rally (2010s), 205 T16 Pikes Peak, and the Polo Rallycross.

It's a fun list, but I wouldn't put a lot of faith in it—and I'm the one who spent all his time compiling it!
Polo was drafted in after the RX license and the fact that Beeetle was tied up by Microsoft(see sponsorship deal and Forza Horizon 2).Fiesta is essentially the same car and we hope to see it updated to 2014 or 2015 specs.So,the only car out of tht list is the 205 T16 Pikes Peak.
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He was talking about a possible entry-level rallycross class... finger crossed for folkrace/bilcross.
I would imagine RX Lites would make most sense, being a one-make and based on a Fiesta (and clearly a good relationship with Ford already). Personally I don't see the need, the basic RX cars are set up easily enough to control, but that would make most sense to me.
They're reasoning, and it's a good one, would be because you cannot buy a wrx car when you start the game, it's amongst the most expensive and if a user wants to play wrx, they cannot without grinding rally.
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He was talking about a possible entry-level rallycross class... finger crossed for folkrace/bilcross.
I would imagine RX Lites would make most sense, being a one-make and based on a Fiesta (and clearly a good relationship with Ford already). Personally I don't see the need, the basic RX cars are set up easily enough to control, but that would make most sense to me.
They're reasoning, and it's a good one, would be because you cannot buy a wrx car when you start the game, it's amongst the most expensive and if a user wants to play wrx, they cannot without grinding rally.
Touché.
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Dytut said:
Go for folk race! That'll get people started :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1821u8gSZ0s
Well, Rallycross is million dollar folkrace, but at the same time the event structure is different. No timings involved, just points awarded after what position you end up in your heat. Great fun though :)
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This is only speculation, but one of the cars that we might get in Modern Masters pack is Ford Focus '06, the one that had the BP Ultimate - Castrol - Abu Dhabi Livery ( or similar ). I'm saying this because there's a Ford BP Ultimate "thing", on the DR License/Sponsors page, and there's BP Ultimate banner's/outdoors at the start of some stages. This car would belong to the 2000s Class, no? Maibe when they said it will be a new Class, not all the cars that will come with the pack, will belong to the new Class, might be 3 cars from a new Class and 2 cars from existing ones... Or everything i just said is completly wrong =P
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