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Alf72 said:
This is only speculation, but one of the cars that we might get in Modern Masters pack is Ford Focus '06, the one that had the BP Ultimate - Castrol - Abu Dhabi Livery ( or similar ). I'm saying this because there's a Ford BP Ultimate "thing", on the DR License/Sponsors page, and there's BP Ultimate banner's/outdoors at the start of some stages. This car would belong to the 2000s Class, no? Maibe when they said it will be a new Class, not all the cars that will come with the pack, will belong to the new Class, might be 3 cars from a new Class and 2 cars from existing ones... Or everything i just said is completly wrong =P
If this info is right, I really hope Codemasters add the 2006 Version and not the Focus from DiRT3 with the ugly 2008 Facelift.  :| 
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I think we will see the R-class make it's appearance in DiRT Rally, particularly the R5 and R2 classes. I, for some reason, don't see Group N cars making it in, due to limited licensing. I also hope to see the Citroën C4, Focus RS 06 and other 2015 WRCs added to the 2010s class. I still think we might see the 206 WRC on the 2000s class and then the Renaults for the 60s and 80s RWD classes. Finito.
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RookieOne said:
bogani said:
I would still trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC S5   :#
I would prefer the S3 (or WRC97) for one reason : it got a 6-speed manual h-shift transmission, instead of a 6-speed sequential
I know I might get flamed for this by the Scooby experts, but is there actually an Impreza S3? To my knowledge the S5 is the the first WRC with an "S" - also WRC99. The earlier are simply WRC97, WRC98, no S3 and S4?

If that's the case I will correct myself. I would trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC97 or WRC98!  o:)
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bogani said:
RookieOne said:
bogani said:
I would still trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC S5   :#
I would prefer the S3 (or WRC97) for one reason : it got a 6-speed manual h-shift transmission, instead of a 6-speed sequential
I know I might get flamed for this by the Scooby experts, but is there actually an Impreza S3? To my knowledge the S5 is the the first WRC with an "S" - also WRC99. The earlier are simply WRC97, WRC98, no S3 and S4?

LOL, aint even going to touch that subject, again

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Milestone (Seb Loeb Rally Evo) were asked about DiRT Rally:

“I liked it a lot," he says. "They made a change compared to the previous titles, focusing more on simulation and leaving aside the arcade style that characterised the series. I must say that is fulfilling and well-finished.”

Nice to see people respecting one another's work. Read more about their game and how they made real life stages too:

http://www.redbull.com/en/games/stories/1331752024607/sébastien-loeb-rally-evo-the-interview
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gfRally said:
bogani said:
RookieOne said:
bogani said:
I would still trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC S5   :#
I would prefer the S3 (or WRC97) for one reason : it got a 6-speed manual h-shift transmission, instead of a 6-speed sequential
I know I might get flamed for this by the Scooby experts, but is there actually an Impreza S3? To my knowledge the S5 is the the first WRC with an "S" - also WRC99. The earlier are simply WRC97, WRC98, no S3 and S4?

LOL, aint even going to touch that subject, again

I DARE you to
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bogani said:
RookieOne said:
bogani said:
I would still trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC S5   :#
I would prefer the S3 (or WRC97) for one reason : it got a 6-speed manual h-shift transmission, instead of a 6-speed sequential
I know I might get flamed for this by the Scooby experts, but is there actually an Impreza S3? To my knowledge the S5 is the the first WRC with an "S" - also WRC99. The earlier are simply WRC97, WRC98, no S3 and S4?

If that's the case I will correct myself. I would trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC97 or WRC98!  o:)
@RookieOne is correct @bogani , there was indeed an S3 Impreza! S3 is the '97 car, S4 the '98. Having said that, I must confess that the subject of the pre-S5 numbers is one I find rather confusing as I have seen some cars referred to as both S3 and S4. I do wonder if the early cars were perhaps upgraded to a later spec, thus changing their designation?

Irrespective of the numbering, I agree with you @bogani: the S3 and S4 cars, in my eyes, the most iconic looking rally cars of the modern era, I desperately want to see them back in a Codemasters rally game again!
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Why people even bother trying to separate the Subaru's in such an odd manner is beyond me. Do what I do - say the 97 Impreza, 98, 99, 00 ... etc. It would save just about everyone a headache and let them focus on more important things... like playing Dirt Rally.
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Why people even bother trying to separate the Subaru's in such an odd manner is beyond me. Do what I do - say the 97 Impreza, 98, 99, 00 ... etc. It would save just about everyone a headache and let them focus on more important things... like playing Dirt Rally.
Porky, your just not a Subie fanatic like us.  :smiley: 
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gfRally said:
Why people even bother trying to separate the Subaru's in such an odd manner is beyond me. Do what I do - say the 97 Impreza, 98, 99, 00 ... etc. It would save just about everyone a headache and let them focus on more important things... like playing Dirt Rally.
Porky, your just not a Subie fanatic like us.  :smiley: 
I'm more of a Prodrive fan, but yea, just ^^THIS^^  :D 
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tbtstt said:

Mitsubishi owns Subaru anyway

  • Body is 11 characters too short.
I may have fallen for a troll, but on the assumption the above is a serious statement: Subaru is a division of FHI. FHI is partially owned by Toyota. Mitsubishi is a standalone entity. Where is the connection?
I think Doc is using another definition of "owning" as you are.
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tbtstt said:

Mitsubishi owns Subaru anyway

  • Body is 11 characters too short.
I may have fallen for a troll, but on the assumption the above is a serious statement: Subaru is a division of FHI. FHI is partially owned by Toyota. Mitsubishi is a standalone entity. Where is the connection?
Owns as in internet lingo?
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tbtstt said:

Mitsubishi owns Subaru anyway

  • Body is 11 characters too short.
I may have fallen for a troll, but on the assumption the above is a serious statement: Subaru is a division of FHI. FHI is partially owned by Toyota. Mitsubishi is a standalone entity. Where is the connection?
I think Doc is using another definition of "owning" as you are.
When they are both in the game, we'll settle that!  :)

mitsubishi knew it was beat so bad they're focusing on electric Prius type cars :P  

(I hope this is takin as fun and not war)
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gfRally said:

When they are both in the game, we'll settle that!  :)

mitsubishi knew it was beat so bad they're focusing on electric Prius type cars :P  

(I hope this is takin as fun and not war)
Sod that @gfRally, now I have realized the true intentions of  the post (thanks for clarifying @TURBODEVIN19, I read that completely the wrong way first time!) and as @DocStrangelove has fired the first shot I am declaring Impreza/Evo war! 


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the funny thing is my family have owned 8 different subarus since 1980s.

the difference in most is almost nothing ! :p last model was a RBR 320 which was 400bhp.

as for mitsu owning subarus lol you should try racing gobstopper 2 in any mitsu then tell me who wins :D
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Why people even bother trying to separate the Subaru's in such an odd manner is beyond me. Do what I do - say the 97 Impreza, 98, 99, 00 ... etc. It would save just about everyone a headache and let them focus on more important things... like playing Dirt Rally.
I honestly thought they were talking about Audis. Scratching my head as to why someone would want to rally an Audi S5.
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dgeesi0 said:
the funny thing is my family have owned 8 different subarus since 1980s.

the difference in most is almost nothing ! :p last model was a RBR 320 which was 400bhp.

as for mitsu owning subarus lol you should try racing gobstopper 2 in any mitsu then tell me who wins :D
I drive a Japanese import Subaru Forester STi (2004) currently :-) before that had a UK Celica GT VVTL-i, and before that a Japanese Supra twin turbo. The Forester (running a detuned Impreza STi engine) is almost as quick as the Supra!
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dgeesi0 said:
the funny thing is my family have owned 8 different subarus since 1980s.

the difference in most is almost nothing ! :p last model was a RBR 320 which was 400bhp.

as for mitsu owning subarus lol you should try racing gobstopper 2 in any mitsu then tell me who wins :D
I drive a Japanese import Subaru Forester STi (2004) currently :-) before that had a UK Celica GT VVTL-i, and before that a Japanese Supra twin turbo. The Forester (running a detuned Impreza STi engine) is almost as quick as the Supra!
put pix up in the 
http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/25272/what-are-your-real-cars#latest
thread, love to see it.
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gfRally said:
dgeesi0 said:
the funny thing is my family have owned 8 different subarus since 1980s.

the difference in most is almost nothing ! :p last model was a RBR 320 which was 400bhp.

as for mitsu owning subarus lol you should try racing gobstopper 2 in any mitsu then tell me who wins :D
I drive a Japanese import Subaru Forester STi (2004) currently :-) before that had a UK Celica GT VVTL-i, and before that a Japanese Supra twin turbo. The Forester (running a detuned Impreza STi engine) is almost as quick as the Supra!
put pix up in the 
http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/25272/what-are-your-real-cars#latest
thread, love to see it.
^ What he said!
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gfRally said:
dgeesi0 said:
the funny thing is my family have owned 8 different subarus since 1980s.

the difference in most is almost nothing ! :p last model was a RBR 320 which was 400bhp.

as for mitsu owning subarus lol you should try racing gobstopper 2 in any mitsu then tell me who wins :D
I drive a Japanese import Subaru Forester STi (2004) currently :-) before that had a UK Celica GT VVTL-i, and before that a Japanese Supra twin turbo. The Forester (running a detuned Impreza STi engine) is almost as quick as the Supra!
put pix up in the 
http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/25272/what-are-your-real-cars#latest
thread, love to see it.
Done: http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/comment/128460/#Comment_128460
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tbtstt said:
bogani said:
RookieOne said:
bogani said:
I would still trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC S5   :#
I would prefer the S3 (or WRC97) for one reason : it got a 6-speed manual h-shift transmission, instead of a 6-speed sequential
I know I might get flamed for this by the Scooby experts, but is there actually an Impreza S3? To my knowledge the S5 is the the first WRC with an "S" - also WRC99. The earlier are simply WRC97, WRC98, no S3 and S4?

If that's the case I will correct myself. I would trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC97 or WRC98!  o:)
@RookieOne is correct @bogani , there was indeed an S3 Impreza! S3 is the '97 car, S4 the '98. Having said that, I must confess that the subject of the pre-S5 numbers is one I find rather confusing as I have seen some cars referred to as both S3 and S4. I do wonder if the early cars were perhaps upgraded to a later spec, thus changing their designation?

Irrespective of the numbering, I agree with you @bogani: the S3 and S4 cars, in my eyes, the most iconic looking rally cars of the modern era, I desperately want to see them back in a Codemasters rally game again!
I think that early 98 car was a S3 car. The change to the S4 designation was probably following the change to the gearbox (using a sequential with a single paddle instead of a H-Shifter gearbox)
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RookieOne said:
tbtstt said:
bogani said:
RookieOne said:
bogani said:
I would still trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC S5   :#
I would prefer the S3 (or WRC97) for one reason : it got a 6-speed manual h-shift transmission, instead of a 6-speed sequential
I know I might get flamed for this by the Scooby experts, but is there actually an Impreza S3? To my knowledge the S5 is the the first WRC with an "S" - also WRC99. The earlier are simply WRC97, WRC98, no S3 and S4?

If that's the case I will correct myself. I would trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC97 or WRC98!  o:)
@RookieOne is correct @bogani , there was indeed an S3 Impreza! S3 is the '97 car, S4 the '98. Having said that, I must confess that the subject of the pre-S5 numbers is one I find rather confusing as I have seen some cars referred to as both S3 and S4. I do wonder if the early cars were perhaps upgraded to a later spec, thus changing their designation?

Irrespective of the numbering, I agree with you @bogani: the S3 and S4 cars, in my eyes, the most iconic looking rally cars of the modern era, I desperately want to see them back in a Codemasters rally game again!
I think that early 98 car was a S3 car. The change to the S4 designation was probably following the change to the gearbox (using a sequential with a single paddle instead of a H-Shifter gearbox)
I didn't think the paddle shift came until '99? The S5 was the first car with paddle shift, wasn't it? 
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tbtstt said:
RookieOne said:
tbtstt said:
bogani said:
RookieOne said:
bogani said:
I would still trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC S5   :#
I would prefer the S3 (or WRC97) for one reason : it got a 6-speed manual h-shift transmission, instead of a 6-speed sequential
I know I might get flamed for this by the Scooby experts, but is there actually an Impreza S3? To my knowledge the S5 is the the first WRC with an "S" - also WRC99. The earlier are simply WRC97, WRC98, no S3 and S4?

If that's the case I will correct myself. I would trade all upcoming cars for a Impreza WRC97 or WRC98!  o:)
@RookieOne is correct @bogani , there was indeed an S3 Impreza! S3 is the '97 car, S4 the '98. Having said that, I must confess that the subject of the pre-S5 numbers is one I find rather confusing as I have seen some cars referred to as both S3 and S4. I do wonder if the early cars were perhaps upgraded to a later spec, thus changing their designation?

Irrespective of the numbering, I agree with you @bogani: the S3 and S4 cars, in my eyes, the most iconic looking rally cars of the modern era, I desperately want to see them back in a Codemasters rally game again!
I think that early 98 car was a S3 car. The change to the S4 designation was probably following the change to the gearbox (using a sequential with a single paddle instead of a H-Shifter gearbox)
I didn't think the paddle shift came until '99? The S5 was the first car with paddle shift, wasn't it? 
And was it really a single paddle?!
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http://steamcommunity.com/id/KirvesmakiJJ/screenshot/384287971857451016
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=531750125
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=531750000

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bogani said:
tbtstt said:
RookieOne said:
I think that early 98 car was a S3 car. The change to the S4 designation was probably following the change to the gearbox (using a sequential with a single paddle instead of a H-Shifter gearbox)
I didn't think the paddle shift came until '99? The S5 was the first car with paddle shift, wasn't it? 
And was it really a single paddle?!
You are right @tbtstt , my bad

@bogani yes it was, I don't think they used dual-paddle like formula 1 in WRC competition (they might have tested it, but in a full rally ? not sure) for the simple reason that the steering lock is higher than in formula 1 (I think that F1 have at most 240 ? not sure but it's low enough to make it work with the paddles on the steering wheel.)
While it's 540 for most modern rallycars, although it might be a bit higher for the S5).

It was easier to make a single fixed paddle and use it like a sequential shifter, only way closer to the wheel
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RookieOne said:

bogani said:
tbtstt said:
RookieOne said:
I think that early 98 car was a S3 car. The change to the S4 designation was probably following the change to the gearbox (using a sequential with a single paddle instead of a H-Shifter gearbox)
I didn't think the paddle shift came until '99? The S5 was the first car with paddle shift, wasn't it? 
And was it really a single paddle?!
You are right @tbtstt , my bad

@bogani yes it was, I don't think they used dual-paddle like formula 1 in WRC competition (they might have tested it, but in a full rally ? not sure) for the simple reason that the steering lock is higher than in formula 1 (I think that F1 have at most 240 ? not sure but it's low enough to make it work with the paddles on the steering wheel.)
While it's 540 for most modern rallycars, although it might be a bit higher for the S5).

It was easier to make a single fixed paddle and use it like a sequential shifter, only way closer to the wheel
My life's been a lie for all those years! :open_mouth: 
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