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griev0r said:
Do NOT buy WRC5, not even worth a pirate.  I watched a stream of a steam friend of mine for awhile last night, it's horrid. 
Agree about it not even being worth to pirate it, because that's what I did (I also did that with DiRT Rally (because, you know, demos aren't a thing anymore, sadly), but I bought it afterwards, after seeing how good it was).
But WRC is horrible. Starting from the barren settings menu, to the lack of support for Logitech wheels (don't know about the G27, but neither my DFGT or the Formula Force EX worked, you could only map buttons, but not the axis). The sounds are bad. The car noises maybe not so much, but the co-driver is like a robot. You could tell right away that each pacenote is recorded once and played back one every corresponding corner. Gets annoying quite fast. The performance is also quite bad. It doesn't run smooth at all, even on medium settings, and my computer isn't that bad (i5 and 7870). 
I didn't expect anything good, but maybe a litte better than this
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It's such a shame. They made a fantastic recreation of Senna's F1 car in GT6, but it can't have the JPS livery. They made a fairly good "Team Lotus Special" substitute livery, but I want fucking JPS on that car.
Yea and it's such nonsense, it's not like I knew Martini was an alcoholic beverage when I was a kid, I just loved the livery. And in the time I've been using the livery mods in DiRT 3 I never thought, hm I need to get me some Martini. It's just the governments trying to fix (non existing) problems in the wrong way. And we're the victims. 
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So someone who sees the Martini livery in a game most likely won't go "oh, I could use a drink"
Quite right. Having this happen to me at the end of a weekly makes me go "oh, I could use a drink":


I thinka that same thing happent to me. I think it was the same track. I crashed in to the trees on the left 1 or 2 meters away from finish. But stil it wasn't bad because i enjoy the run.
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It's such a shame. They made a fantastic recreation of Senna's F1 car in GT6, but it can't have the JPS livery. They made a fairly good "Team Lotus Special" substitute livery, but I want fucking JPS on that car.
Yea and it's such nonsense, it's not like I knew Martini was an alcoholic beverage when I was a kid, I just loved the livery. And in the time I've been using the livery mods in DiRT 3 I never thought, hm I need to get me some Martini. It's just the governments trying to fix (non existing) problems in the wrong way. And we're the victims. 
Think we're getting just a bit carried away to start calling ourselves 'victims' because we can't have an (official), 100% historically accurate livery on a virtual car.
Especially in comparison not only to people who are addicted to either alcohol or tobacco, but also the taxpayers in countries with 'free' healthcare or have to foot the bill to treat the results.

There are two separate things at work here.
Firstly, that an agreement hasn't been reached with Martini regarding using a part of their brand identity.
Secondly, laws preventing the actual complete Martini logo.

Let's not pretend video games are being singled out here. Alcohol and tobacco companies are not allowed to advertise on kids TV channels or comic books and in many places where TV adverts are still allowed, it's only after a certain time. 9pm in the UK (alcohol only. Tobacco isn't at all).
With the number of smokers at an all time low, who's to say it's not helping?
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With the number of smokers at an all time low, who's to say it's not helping?
I can assure you, that low has nothing to do with lack of ads. It's due to drastically rising prices. People stop smoking because it gets too expensive.
Please don't just pull something like that out of thin air. 
Absolutely it's a factor, a huge one amongst many, but you can't state as if it's a fact that advertising restrictions have not had any impact at all, just because you think they don't. 
Same for how 30% of all ads and about 50% of the packaging must also have government health warnings, or how a number of countries have now banned smoking in public places.
It's a combination of many factors.

Moving on now, dead horse is dead. It's such an old subject that even affected the first Colin McRae Rally on the Playstation (Lancia Delta).
Hopefully an agreement can be reached to feature a censored version of the Martini Racing focus, ala every previous Martini Racing livery in a Codemasters game.
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As much as this is all interesting about Alcohol/Smoking and whys and whynots, we all have an opinion about this.  I think we can all agree that licensing sucks, too many lawyers involved both politically and those that make the agreements as to what we can have in 'our' game.  We kind of need to move on from this, its not completely irrelevant, but not productive and going to lead down a dark path.

Lets get back to Gossip, what cars are we going to get next, if we dont consider licensing.   I think Mitsubishi would be nice, and a modern Subaru, 2008+ year. 
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BrySkye said:
G37L057 said:
BrySkye said:
With the number of smokers at an all time low, who's to say it's not helping?
I can assure you, that low has nothing to do with lack of ads. It's due to drastically rising prices. People stop smoking because it gets too expensive.
Please don't just pull something like that out of thin air. 
Absolutely it's a factor, a huge one amongst many, but you can't state as if it's a fact that advertising restrictions have not had any impact at all, just because you think they don't.
Not sure if every single person I know (and their friends) in the last 2 years either stopped smoking or drastically reduced it because of the prices alone is a thin air, but ok. Let's go with #MovingOn


gfRally said:
Lets get back to Gossip, what cars are we going to get next, if we dont consider licensing.   I think Mitsubishi would be nice, and a modern Subaru, 2008+ year. 
Hmmm, Quattro S1 E2 can't be considered as modern, can it?
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Well, they say in the timeline that the Modern Masters are a new class of car. This Focus is a 2010s car so not really a new class. Could it be 2 liter WRC? No, that can't be it. We already have 2 liter WRCs in-game. The new class has to be R5.
I doubt if they ALL have to be a new class of car. I would imagine class also refers to the categories in the game rather than IRL.
Expanding on the 2000 and 2010 categories would seem likely.
Think that's a 2008/09 Focus WRC?
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I think they'll be fleshing out the 2000's and the 2010's categories, but i don't know how that picture above fits it, it would be very strange from a gameplay point of view to have the same model (technically) in the same category (2000's)
You and me both, would seem a bit strange. Might explain why the 2001 cars have '2001' in their name though. Perez's Focus is a 2007 model if I remember various entry lists correctly. Makes a lot of sense and presumably will have the works livery with all the BP logos in game.

I feel harsh for saying this, but a little disappointed that one of the other cars for the class will be another Focus as it sort of implies to me that they're having difficulty with a few more manufacturers.

Does make me wonder if we could also be looking at the Subaru equivalent:

http://www.worldrallyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Subaru-Impreza-WRC2007_11.jpg
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I think they'll be fleshing out the 2000's and the 2010's categories, but i don't know how that picture above fits it, it would be very strange from a gameplay point of view to have the same model (technically) in the same category (2000's)
You and me both, would seem a bit strange. Might explain why the 2001 cars have '2001' in their name though.
Hmm, possibly, however, i'm more inclined to think that's due to their drive specific nature/celebration.
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I feel harsh for saying this, but a little disappointed that one of the other cars for the class will be another Focus as it sort of implies to me that they're having difficulty with a few more manufacturers.
Or it could also be that their relationship with Ford is so good that they might have no trouble at all getting extra cars from them to add to the game.
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sqdstr said:
I feel harsh for saying this, but a little disappointed that one of the other cars for the class will be another Focus as it sort of implies to me that they're having difficulty with a few more manufacturers.
Or it could also be that their relationship with Ford is so good that they might have no trouble at all getting extra cars from them to add to the game.
Yep, and that's great - in fact, I look at Ford a lot more favourably as a result and will go take a look around their showroom next chance I get - but we have a a [very] vague idea of how many cars are in works (~6-8) for upcoming patches, unless that has changed, so everyone here has a few personal favourites they were hoping for (Skoda S2000 in my case) - so when we find out one is another Ford, it lowers the chances that the remaining cars are Mitsubishis, Skodas, Peugeots, Citroens, Renaults, etc.

That's not a slight or an attack on Codemasters - I'm as sick as anyone as reading "No Evo yet, CM hatez uz" threads on Steam - just a personal slight disappointment. Don't fret though, I'm still going to drive that new Focus until I've written it off more times than Latvala!
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There we can see some great cars that we have already in game and some that might me added later such as Focus 06,206,Xsara,Celica[*],Lancer Evo IV,Fabia . I want some of them baaadly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOh9UZfIvmU
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Job3k said:
There we can see some great cars that we have already in game and some that might me added later such as Focus 06,206,Xsara,Celica[*],Lancer Evo IV,Fabia . I want some of them baaadly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOh9UZfIvmU
 I championed the Quattro Evo 2 right at the start since it's probably the most iconic representation of Group B, was in the original CMR, hasn't been in a Codies came since 2005 and is a better fit to be up against the RS200, 205 Evo 2 and Delta S4.
All but certain its not going to happen though.
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BrySkye said:
I championed the Quattro Evo 2 right at the start since it's probably the most iconic representation of Group B, was in the original CMR, hasn't been in a Codies came since 2005 and is a better fit to be up against the RS200, 205 Evo 2 and Delta S4.
I also want that Quattro S1 E2 so BAD in the Group B. That Pug needs to have some serious competition after all, no better car to do it than the almighty Quattro in it's prime :D
Codemasters, please, pwetty pwease. I'll give my kidney or even both of them if it helps :D
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