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Can someone maybe tell me what's wrong here?

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First season, Ferrari. Master, only assist is auto gears. Two downforce upgrades, one engine upgrade. PC with Xbox Controller.

I've come to the Barcelona track and there's just no grip at all. Turn in understeer, corner exit oversteer. I tried time trial and I have the same issue there too.

The video shows how bad the car is handling all of a sudden. I won the previous three races so I know I can keep up with the AI once I get up to speed, but suddenly there's no grip at all, just wild unpredictable understeer/oversteer everywhere. I have to crawl around 4 seconds a lap slower than the AI just to get around the track.

I skipped FP1 to see if it was just the session, but it made no difference. This is with the highest rated setup on Steam, I've used about a dozen others, some from a few websites, and the default high downforce setting to see if it makes a difference, but no luck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8CbXAc9ic

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What you want the car to do and what it is doing are clashing - you said you use auto gears - I would turn them off. You can't control your speed or your cornering with auto gears. Entering and exiting a corner needs a balance of accelerator, brake and gear choice.

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I've had no problems with auto gears for the past four races, i believe the problem is specific to this circuit somehow.

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hiimdm said:
I've had no problems with auto gears for the past four races, i believe the problem is specific to this circuit somehow.
That's definately possible, atleast from my point of view. Spain is the only track where I can't keep up with the AI. I lose over a second in the last sector alone, and I have no idea why. My only assists are anti-lock and full TC.

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Odemdemz said:
I think - and this is legit - not using that God awful camera view might help.
Not relevant at all to track grip levels, but thank for your input!

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No. I mean it would make the car a lot less unpredictable if you could see the steering wheel, you know?

But f**k me right?

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Odemdemz said:
No. I mean it would make the car a lot less unpredictable if you could see the steering wheel, you know?

But f**k me right?
Or maybe its easier for me to be able to see all four wheels, so i know where they are? take your elitism somewhere else, thanks.

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hiimdm said:
Odemdemz said:
No. I mean it would make the car a lot less unpredictable if you could see the steering wheel, you know?

But f**k me right?
Or maybe its easier for me to be able to see all four wheels, so i know where they are? take your elitism somewhere else, thanks.
How is it elitism to state the obvious?
you come here asking for help, some one offers it and you throw it back in their face,
Maybe you can take your stupidly somewhere else, thanks?

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How is it elitism to state the obvious?
you come here asking for help, some one offers it and you throw it back in their face,
Maybe you can take your stupidly somewhere else, thanks?
They weren't offering help, they were taking an opportunity to belittle someone who doesn't play the game like they think I should. It's quite obvious that camera view has nothing to do with a sudden drop in track grip levels, but here we are, kids crawl out of the woodwork with their superior sneers because i don't play with a wheel and pedals in cockpit view with manual gears on a simulator rig. It's just not relevant to the discussion, its knobs like you looking for an excuse to wave your huge driving authenticity dicks around.

I was looking for suggestions for set-up or if someone else had a similar issue and if they rectified it, but nope, cunts like you just have to swagger in trumpeting how great they are due to the aforementioned. Maybe I will take my "stupidly" somewhere else, where kids like you don't feel the need to barge in and offer irrelevant opinions about how they're superior drivers in a video game.

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hiimdm said:
How is it elitism to state the obvious?
you come here asking for help, some one offers it and you throw it back in their face,
Maybe you can take your stupidly somewhere else, thanks?
They weren't offering help, they were taking an opportunity to belittle someone who doesn't play the game like they think I should. It's quite obvious that camera view has nothing to do with a sudden drop in track grip levels, but here we are, kids crawl out of the woodwork with their superior sneers because i don't play with a wheel and pedals in cockpit view with manual gears on a simulator rig. It's just not relevant to the discussion, its knobs like you looking for an excuse to wave your huge driving authenticity dicks around.

I was looking for suggestions for set-up or if someone else had a similar issue and if they rectified it, but nope, cunts like you just have to swagger in trumpeting how great they are due to the aforementioned. Maybe I will take my "stupidly" somewhere else, where kids like you don't feel the need to barge in and offer irrelevant opinions about how they're superior drivers in a video game.
What a muppet

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Wow. Me and my friends always used triggered as a joke but I've never actually witnessed someone get genuinely triggered till now. Especially not to the point where they have to write two paragraphs about what they presumed somebody meant. When did we tell to use a racing sim rig? Who asked you to play with no assists? I was genuinely trying to help, watching your steering wheel would make the car less unpredictable IMO which was one of the problems you mentioned but I guess since I'm being an elitist for offering my two cents I should just keep my yap shut.

You know what? I looked at your video more and your just not good enough. Its not a glitch or lack of grip, your lines and entry speed are all wrong and your lifting off at places you needn't lift off. Learning auto gears does Infact make you quicker but I don't want to oppress you with my elitist agenda. I'll just enjoy myself watch you suffer in this thread while you desperately try to skirt around the fact that you're not quick enough.

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It's not the game, it's you. Grip level is fine around Spain. Keep practicing. T-cam view does give you a better feel for the understeer/oversteer.  It's not elitism, just fact.

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If the OP was using this camera view for all other tracks than I would imagine he is accustomed to how the car feels. 

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Well he should stop spending his time complaining about being slow and just 'Git Gud' then.

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Personally, Barcelona can be a tricky track for me in every motorsport game that I've driven it, especially in sensitive/twitchy cars. Judging by what I think I see in your video, I might suggest braking a little earlier going into turn 1, and going a bit lighter and/or later on the throttle coming out of turns. Just as a diagnostic test, if you run some laps with Traction Control enabled and you have fewer problems losing car control on corner exits, that can indicate that your throttle management without Traction Control could use improvement. Good luck.


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I've actually just noticed the same issue in Barcelona with a Ferrari. The sudden understeer into oversteer. Wasn't a problem until the latest patch. I use aaravas setup and I'm in a halfway upgraded Ferrari. Made me struggle a lot compared to earlier races in the season. Using master difficulty also.

And obviously the camera angle isn't the problem, personally I use the T-cam. But all of you who whined about the chase cam just use your brain for at least half a second. If OP has no issues on other circuits then obviously the problem is elsewhrere.

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hiimdm said:
How is it elitism to state the obvious?
you come here asking for help, some one offers it and you throw it back in their face,
Maybe you can take your stupidly somewhere else, thanks?
They weren't offering help, they were taking an opportunity to belittle someone who doesn't play the game like they think I should. It's quite obvious that camera view has nothing to do with a sudden drop in track grip levels, but here we are, kids crawl out of the woodwork with their superior sneers because i don't play with a wheel and pedals in cockpit view with manual gears on a simulator rig. It's just not relevant to the discussion, its knobs like you looking for an excuse to wave your huge driving authenticity dicks around.

I was looking for suggestions for set-up or if someone else had a similar issue and if they rectified it, but nope, cunts like you just have to swagger in trumpeting how great they are due to the aforementioned. Maybe I will take my "stupidly" somewhere else, where kids like you don't feel the need to barge in and offer irrelevant opinions about how they're superior drivers in a video game.

Wow, that's a lot of salt.
First of all, your line through most of the lap is atrocious, probably not helped by the mario kart view your using, also all your corner entries and apex gear selections are way off, probably due to your using gear assists.
All your salt won't change the fact youre just bad at the game, and there is no magic set up to solve your lack of skill.

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hiimdm said:
How is it elitism to state the obvious?
you come here asking for help, some one offers it and you throw it back in their face,
Maybe you can take your stupidly somewhere else, thanks?
They weren't offering help, they were taking an opportunity to belittle someone who doesn't play the game like they think I should. It's quite obvious that camera view has nothing to do with a sudden drop in track grip levels, but here we are, kids crawl out of the woodwork with their superior sneers because i don't play with a wheel and pedals in cockpit view with manual gears on a simulator rig. It's just not relevant to the discussion, its knobs like you looking for an excuse to wave your huge driving authenticity dicks around.

I was looking for suggestions for set-up or if someone else had a similar issue and if they rectified it, but nope, cunts like you just have to swagger in trumpeting how great they are due to the aforementioned. Maybe I will take my "stupidly" somewhere else, where kids like you don't feel the need to barge in and offer irrelevant opinions about how they're superior drivers in a video game.

Wow, that's a lot of salt.
First of all, your line through most of the lap is atrocious, probably not helped by the mario kart view your using, also all your corner entries and apex gear selections are way off, probably due to your using gear assists.
All your salt won't change the fact youre just bad at the game, and there is no magic set up to solve your lack of skill.
Reading one of your previous posts baffles me why you'd lace your general replies with insults to the OP. You've said yourself in past posts that you are no racing god but put the effort in, of which the OP is doing the exact same. So his line isn't perfect in your view suggest how it can be improved to counter his over / under steer don't just keep falling back on the camera angle. The same comment can be applied to your other suggestion, in no way have you provided any constructive info for him to build on. 

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Finn said:
hiimdm said:
How is it elitism to state the obvious?
you come here asking for help, some one offers it and you throw it back in their face,
Maybe you can take your stupidly somewhere else, thanks?
They weren't offering help, they were taking an opportunity to belittle someone who doesn't play the game like they think I should. It's quite obvious that camera view has nothing to do with a sudden drop in track grip levels, but here we are, kids crawl out of the woodwork with their superior sneers because i don't play with a wheel and pedals in cockpit view with manual gears on a simulator rig. It's just not relevant to the discussion, its knobs like you looking for an excuse to wave your huge driving authenticity dicks around.

I was looking for suggestions for set-up or if someone else had a similar issue and if they rectified it, but nope, cunts like you just have to swagger in trumpeting how great they are due to the aforementioned. Maybe I will take my "stupidly" somewhere else, where kids like you don't feel the need to barge in and offer irrelevant opinions about how they're superior drivers in a video game.

Wow, that's a lot of salt.
First of all, your line through most of the lap is atrocious, probably not helped by the mario kart view your using, also all your corner entries and apex gear selections are way off, probably due to your using gear assists.
All your salt won't change the fact youre just bad at the game, and there is no magic set up to solve your lack of skill.
Reading one of your previous posts baffles me why you'd lace your general replies with insults to the OP. You've said yourself in past posts that you are no racing god but put the effort in, of which the OP is doing the exact same. So his line isn't perfect in your view suggest how it can be improved to counter his over / under steer don't just keep falling back on the camera angle. The same comment can be applied to your other suggestion, in no way have you provided any constructive info for him to build on. 

If you had actually read my previous post in full, instead of cherry picking segments to suit your argument I went on to state that "I can understand when people who love this game and have supported the concept from the start get a bit short with people coming on to the forums and complaining that the game needs to change to suit their lack of skill." which despite being about a totaly dfferent game (Dirt Rally), is exactly what the OP is doing.
Youre welcome to disagree, but he asked for an opinion and people gave it, he then got salty and abused me because he didn't like the fact it was his lack of skill and not the game at fault for his problems.

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