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PC: Joining Multiplayer Lobby during Quali

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If I join a multiplayer lobby when they have begun the qualifying session, what determines whether I will be allowed to join the race after Quali?
I have joined several lobbies during One Shot Q, but never been able to join the subsequent race.
On joining during a Short Quali session I have been able to join the subsequent race on several occasions, but not on many others.
It's very frustrating not to know whether I will be joining the race or not!!!
Anyone know what the rules are?

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You have to join during the qualifying or the lap (in case of one shot qualis).
You can read this info in the lobby status.
Then you have to join the game and spectate, simply waiting in the lobby is not enough.

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