My 2017 Real Rallying Plan (Need Opinion)

[FMaiso99 48]

Well 2017 is about to start and what I need is a Rally Car to continue the progress that me and my brother made in real Rallying,  but the first problem  comes, and it is the car, what car should I buy/build, there are 3 options:
Ford Ka: We have already used it, not really competitive in long straight rallys like the ones we are going to race, but really nice to drive, the Ford Ka that we have in the list is a family heritage,  so it would be an easier move, and also this option is the cheapest one. 

VW Gol: Really competitive in this long straight rallys,  easy and boring to drive but with this car you can challenge for the championship, you will say ok it is the best car,  why don't you already bought it? Because the bad part it is that it is not competitive on mountain rallys like in the national championship so,  with this car you can only race in some regional championships. This car isnt too much expensive. 

Ford Fiesta MK7: Mmhh, this car is pretty, but none have built a Fiesta Group N in Argentina (my country), so I don't know if it is fast or not, if you see from the HP it says it have it is really a temptation 140hp (vs 130hp VW Gol vs 120hp Ford Ka) with just a modified ECU and an Exhaust, but it is a bit heavy it is like 100kg heavier, and it will be a risk, maybe I built it and it is a rocket and then I can sell it easier, but if it don't works?

Prices:
Ford Ka: £8000
VW Gol: £11000
Ford Fiesta MK7: £12500

[FMaiso99 48]

Sorry I forgot to post pics of the Cars, the fiesta obviously it isnt the real car, and the VW Gol Wont have that livery because it is disgusting, if anyone want to do a livery I would like to see ones

[BadD0g 0]

I don't have experience with real rally, but I would think parts cost/availability would be my deciding factor. Stuff's going to break, so I'd go with whatever has cheapest or easiest to obtain parts so I can have spares ready just in case.

In the US where I am, the Fiesta is extremely common as a 2WD rally car and Team O'Neil Rally School (who built the one in the picture) knows them inside and out. They even have ones that you can rent, so that's probably what I would do.

[tbtstt 2,416]

I don't know what the availability of spares is like where you are but, in terms of build quality and reliability I would go with the Golf. 

[FloatingGrass 0]

I'd go with the Fiesta too, if you can afford it. It probably is the most competitive out of the three.

And may I ask, how did you go about becoming a rally driver in Argentina? I'm Argentine too and I really want to go rallying as soon as I can.

[FMaiso99 48]

FloatingGrass said:

I'd go with the Fiesta too, if you can afford it. It probably is the most competitive out of the three.

And may I ask, how did you go about becoming a rally driver in Argentina? I'm Argentine too and I really want to go rallying as soon as I can.

My father, uncle, cousin every Family member have Rallied, so when I got 17 years old, my dad hired a car for me and my brother and then we hired the Ka from the Pic (We are the ones of the Pic), and we dos two rallys. Thats how everything started.

[tinmaisonnave 0]

tbtstt said:

I don't know what the availability of spares is like where you are but, in terms of build quality and reliability I would go with the Golf. 

The three cars have no problem with spares, the fords are easier because we sell Ford parts in our car dealership :p

[FMaiso99 48]

tinmaisonnave said:

tbtstt said:

I don't know what the availability of spares is like where you are but, in terms of build quality and reliability I would go with the Golf. 

The three cars have no problem with spares, the fords are easier because we sell Ford parts in our car dealership :p

Sorry I used my brothers PC and logged in with his Codemasters account  :D , if someone can delete the comment with my brothers account would be better LOL

[FloatingGrass 0]

Is rallying expensive here? Also, how did you get a rollcage, a license, etc.? Sorry for my off topic questions, but I'm really interested.

[FMaiso99 48]

FloatingGrass said:

Is rallying expensive here? Also, how did you get a rollcage, a license, etc.? Sorry for my off topic questions, but I'm really interested.

FloatingGrass said:

Is rallying expensive here? Also, how did you get a rollcage, a license, etc.? Sorry for my off topic questions, but I'm really interested.

Well the rollcage the car already hace it, because they were hired, then the licence hoy need to pay 120usd for the Medical Licence and then depending the championship the licence for Rallying a regional one it may cost 130usd then the most expensive la the car hiring/attention and entry fees, you need maybe around 1250usd for everything including 4 tires. Then you need to buy safety racewear Helmet, Hans, Suit, Gloves, Shoes, etc. 

[tbtstt 2,416]

tinmaisonnave said:

tbtstt said:

I don't know what the availability of spares is like where you are but, in terms of build quality and reliability I would go with the Golf. 

The three cars have no problem with spares, the fords are easier because we sell Ford parts in our car dealership :p

In that case, the Fiesta is the winner! 

[KevM 44]

Go for the Ka, it'll be more fun as you'll have less wallet-anxiety when pushing really hard!  & it's more fun to be pushing a slower car at 110% than driving a faster car at only 90%

[Evilsmurf 90]

You sell ford parts in your dealership, so I say Fiesta. More readily available parts than the Ka. 

I think the Ka would be more fun! but if you bin it, getting a new shell for it could be a problem, they are getting old now :p

[KevM 44]

Ka bits are easy, complete cars are £100 now

[FMaiso99 48]

KevM said:

Ka bits are easy, complete cars are £100 now

Not un my s**t country an old Ka costs easy £5000, and the Ka's difference it isnt something that going 110% you can fix it, you need to bin it in every race to be competitive  :D , but I think that atleast the First rally of the year would be in the Ka or a Gol, the Fiesta is pretty difficult to get it ready for the 5th of March.
I'll keep you all in touch with any update

[FloatingGrass 0]

Fedemaisonnave said:

KevM said:

Ka bits are easy, complete cars are £100 now

Not un my s**t country an old Ka costs easy £5000, and the Ka's difference it isnt something that going 110% you can fix it, you need to bin it in every race to be competitive  :D , but I think that atleast the First rally of the year would be in the Ka or a Gol, the Fiesta is pretty difficult to get it ready for the 5th of March.
I'll keep you all in touch with any update

Have you considered anything else, like an old Fit, a Corsa (Celta, no Classic), an older Fiesta or an older Clio?

[FloatingGrass 0]

Sorry for the double post. @Fedemaisonnave I found a few cars online you might be interested in. Couldn't find Fiestas, but...

A cheap, good looking Corsa
http://www.rallymarysierras.com.ar/venta-chevrolet-corsa-n1/

A great looking Clio
http://www.rallymarysierras.com.ar/se-vende-renault-clio-junior-campeon-2016/

A worthy Gol
http://www.rallymarysierras.com.ar/se-vende-vw-gol-subcampeon-de-la-n1/

A couple pretty expensive R3 cars if you're willing to go there.
http://www.rallymarysierras.com.ar/vendo-mini-cooper-r3t-auto-campeon-2016/
http://auto.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-646307200-peugeot-307-rally-20-16-valvulas-categoria-n3-_JM

(El Corsa ese parece medio engaña pichanga pero que se yo)

[Evilsmurf 90]

KevM said:

Ka bits are easy, complete cars are £100 now

Yeah, but as a mechanic in the UK, they are mostly, Fudged Ornamental Roadside Decorations :p that leak more oil than an old Austin Metro, with more holes in them than a Tetley tea bag! :D

[FMaiso99 48]

FloatingGrass said:

Sorry for the double post. @Fedemaisonnave I found a few cars online you might be interested in. Couldn't find Fiestas, but...

A cheap, good looking Corsa
http://www.rallymarysierras.com.ar/venta-chevrolet-corsa-n1/

A great looking Clio
http://www.rallymarysierras.com.ar/se-vende-renault-clio-junior-campeon-2016/

A worthy Gol
http://www.rallymarysierras.com.ar/se-vende-vw-gol-subcampeon-de-la-n1/

A couple pretty expensive R3 cars if you're willing to go there.
http://www.rallymarysierras.com.ar/vendo-mini-cooper-r3t-auto-campeon-2016/
http://auto.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-646307200-peugeot-307-rally-20-16-valvulas-categoria-n3-_JM

(El Corsa ese parece medio engaña pichanga pero que se yo)

I know all of those, the Clio you attached is from a friend and it is a bit out of budget £60000 isnt really cheap, the Peugeot 307 it is not very agile for rallying, and and the fake R3T (Argentinean fake R3T class) are famous to blow the engine before starting the rallys LOL, then Corsa is rubbish, and the Gol is OK, is from a lower category but is ok