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Chase Carey has announced it all in the evening yesterday the sad departure of Bernie Ecclestone after his 40 year reign is up, and now it is onwards and upwards for the whole sport of F1 and these are the things that will change/add in the coming years:

BRAND NEW!
25 Races on the F1 Calendar (New York and Miami in discussion to host F1 Races)
1 Whole Week build up for each race
More Characters in F1 Drivers
21 Super Bowls like Races
More Teams on the F1 Grid
Support for the Smaller Teams 
Simple Rules in F1
Silverstone to STAY 
London Grand Prix
Closer Racing
WHEN IS THIS ALL GOING TO HAPPEN - 2020

So what do fans think of this leave YOUR comments below!
Any and Every opinion is welcome as always.

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Its impossible to make most of the races a week apart. Even if weather didn't dictate where they are on the calender.

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I hope they don't reduce the sport to a reality-TV-like or WWF-like circus with obnoxious personalities & ridiculous theatrics just to try to bring more attention to it. If they try to appeal to the NASCAR audience, F1 as a sport is finished, though F1 as a garish money monster may go on for a while.


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Support for smaller teams is the greatest thing for F1. It will attract new teams to F1 which is what the grid needs, maybe a Penske F1 team. Or, the return of works teams like Toyota, BMW, maybe even Chevy/Ford/Lamborghini as engine suppliers.  25 races is possible if they race in the same country twice, like Monza and Imola in Italy, Silverstone and Brands Hatch in the UK, Canada then to New York GP at Watkins Glen then to COTA is possible, etc...Personally I don't see a reason why they can't race multiple times in one country in one season. 

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Operator1 said:

I hope they don't reduce the sport to a reality-TV-like or WWF-like circus with obnoxious personalities & ridiculous theatrics just to try to bring more attention to it. If they try to appeal to the NASCAR audience, F1 as a sport is finished, though F1 as a garish money monster may go on for a while.


short of just saying like nascar, what are specific examples of what that would be in the F1 series itself? As far as American racing fans, they have proven on social media that they are feed up with the shape nascar is in and are also the most vocal about wanting racing in the races as you will find in any series. So much so that they are simply refusing to go to the nascar races or even watch nascar races on tv.  American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing. The events that don't even get televised at our classic, and lesser known tracks and so on. As I mentioned you will find the majority of racing fans in America hate nascar.  The ones that do watch and follow nascar are simply following their favorite driver even if they have to watch races they don't want to watch to follow them. As far as a F1 weekend,its already a huge theatric event with fireworks, concerts and so on. It would be hard to add any more show and theatrics to what a F1 weekend is and allways has been. As far as reality tv and WWE like circus? Consider F1 is allready the series that has a guy drinking from his shoe on the podiums.

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...American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing...

I've personally attended many IMSA WeatherTech (previously Tudor, previously ALMS, etc.) & Pirelli World Challenge races, and track-side attendance on race day is almost non-existent - especially compared to the overflowing stands commonly seen on NASCAR television broadcasts.


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And naturally aspirated V8 engines that use KERS and out with the mutt sounding hybrid power plant and fuel restrictions - please !!!

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SamReaN said:
Chase Carey has announced it all in the evening yesterday the sad departure of Bernie Ecclestone after his 40 year reign is up, and now it is onwards and upwards for the whole sport of F1 and these are the things that will change/add in the coming years:

BRAND NEW!
25 Races on the F1 Calendar (New York and Miami in discussion to host F1 Races)
1 Whole Week build up for each race
More Characters in F1 Drivers
21 Super Bowls like Races
More Teams on the F1 Grid
Support for the Smaller Teams 
Simple Rules in F1
Silverstone to STAY 
London Grand Prix
Closer Racing
WHEN IS THIS ALL GOING TO HAPPEN - 2020

So what do fans think of this leave YOUR comments below!
Any and Every opinion is welcome as always.

Hopefully back to Watkins Glen - now that would be rad!!!!!

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I'm more worried about the commercial brakes. just have a look at the Superbowl. It's already expensive to get the race without commercials. it's gonna be more expensive this way if we can get it without anyway. More teams on the grid? What's the use if there are only three teams competing for the title. I'm very curious in that perspective how they think to realize closer racing. Nascar rules if the field gets spread too much? For now the only good thing I can see in this list is the support for smaller teams and simple rules. All the rest is crap.

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And naturally aspirated V8 engines that use KERS and out with the mutt sounding hybrid power plant and fuel restrictions - please !!!
If anything it should go back to the good old V10 engines. That being said, good luck finding a manufacturer willing to pour resources into outdated technology.

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And naturally aspirated V8 engines that use KERS and out with the mutt sounding hybrid power plant and fuel restrictions - please !!!
If anything it should go back to the good old V10 engines. That being said, good luck finding a manufacturer willing to pour resources into outdated technology.
They kept pooring resources into Bernie...

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Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
...American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing...

I've personally attended many IMSA WeatherTech (previously Tudor, previously ALMS, etc.) & Pirelli World Challenge races, and track-side attendance on race day is almost non-existent - especially compared to the overflowing stands commonly seen on NASCAR television broadcasts.


your telling me the Daytona 24 hour race, sebring 12 hour, the races at cota including the WEC series, and the races at long beach,  just to name a few, attendance is allmost non existent? That's simply a lie,even without mention the internet and tv viewing

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kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
...American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing...

I've personally attended many IMSA WeatherTech (previously Tudor, previously ALMS, etc.) & Pirelli World Challenge races, and track-side attendance on race day is almost non-existent - especially compared to the overflowing stands commonly seen on NASCAR television broadcasts.


your telling me the Daytona 24 hour race, sebring 12 hour, the races at cota including the WEC series, and the races at long beach,  just to name a few, attendance is allmost non existent? That's simply a lie,even without mention the internet and tv viewing


Do not call me a liar. I'm telling you that attendance was almost non-existent at the many events I personally attended. I have not been to Daytona & Sebring.


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Operator1 said:
kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
...American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing...

I've personally attended many IMSA WeatherTech (previously Tudor, previously ALMS, etc.) & Pirelli World Challenge races, and track-side attendance on race day is almost non-existent - especially compared to the overflowing stands commonly seen on NASCAR television broadcasts.


your telling me the Daytona 24 hour race, sebring 12 hour, the races at cota including the WEC series, and the races at long beach,  just to name a few, attendance is allmost non existent? That's simply a lie,even without mention the internet and tv viewing


Do not call me a liar. I'm telling you that attendance was almost non-existent at the many events I personally attended. I have not been to Daytona & Sebring.


ok, tell me what weather tech race did you attend last year.

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kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:
kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
...American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing...

I've personally attended many IMSA WeatherTech (previously Tudor, previously ALMS, etc.) & Pirelli World Challenge races, and track-side attendance on race day is almost non-existent - especially compared to the overflowing stands commonly seen on NASCAR television broadcasts.


your telling me the Daytona 24 hour race, sebring 12 hour, the races at cota including the WEC series, and the races at long beach,  just to name a few, attendance is allmost non existent? That's simply a lie,even without mention the internet and tv viewing


Do not call me a liar. I'm telling you that attendance was almost non-existent at the many events I personally attended. I have not been to Daytona & Sebring.


ok, tell me what weather tech race did you attend last year.

CotA. The stands were so empty that we had our choice of seats, and we moved around to sit at different parts of the track at different times. No line at the admission gate. No lines in the paddock to take pictures of the cars or talk to the teams. No lines at the merch stands. No lines at concessions. No lines at the bathrooms. Easy parking. Same for the WEC races I've been to at CotA.

Attendance looked similarly sparse on the televised IMSA races at Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Road America & Road Atlanta.

PM me instead of dragging the thread off-topic if you want to debate & insult me some more.


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Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:
kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
...American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing...

I've personally attended many IMSA WeatherTech (previously Tudor, previously ALMS, etc.) & Pirelli World Challenge races, and track-side attendance on race day is almost non-existent - especially compared to the overflowing stands commonly seen on NASCAR television broadcasts.


your telling me the Daytona 24 hour race, sebring 12 hour, the races at cota including the WEC series, and the races at long beach,  just to name a few, attendance is allmost non existent? That's simply a lie,even without mention the internet and tv viewing


Do not call me a liar. I'm telling you that attendance was almost non-existent at the many events I personally attended. I have not been to Daytona & Sebring.


ok, tell me what weather tech race did you attend last year.

CotA. The stands were so empty that we had our choice of seats, and we moved around to sit at different parts of the track at different times. No line at the admission gate. No lines in the paddock to take pictures of the cars or talk to the teams. No lines at the merch stands. No lines at concessions. No lines at the bathrooms. Easy parking. Same for the WEC races I've been to at CotA.

Attendance looked similarly sparse on the televised IMSA races at Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Road America & Road Atlanta.

PM me instead of dragging the thread off-topic if you want to debate & insult me some more.


your right I should bring the topic back to F1, For Cota the attendance for the first f1 race in 2012 was 117,492. skip to the 2015 race was 224,011 and 2016 265,000. As for last years cota weathertech race the attendance was 74,457. Hardly non existent , also wasn't that race weekend during a downpoor with some flooding issues in the surrounding area? I cant really remember if that was 2015 or 2016  http://www.mystatesman.com/sports/motor-sports/cota-reports-record-lone-star-mans-attendance/Um9S7KDGWRhfRvTxitMKWI/

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kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:
kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
...American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing...

I've personally attended many IMSA WeatherTech (previously Tudor, previously ALMS, etc.) & Pirelli World Challenge races, and track-side attendance on race day is almost non-existent - especially compared to the overflowing stands commonly seen on NASCAR television broadcasts.


your telling me the Daytona 24 hour race, sebring 12 hour, the races at cota including the WEC series, and the races at long beach,  just to name a few, attendance is allmost non existent? That's simply a lie,even without mention the internet and tv viewing


Do not call me a liar. I'm telling you that attendance was almost non-existent at the many events I personally attended. I have not been to Daytona & Sebring.


ok, tell me what weather tech race did you attend last year.

CotA. The stands were so empty that we had our choice of seats, and we moved around to sit at different parts of the track at different times. No line at the admission gate. No lines in the paddock to take pictures of the cars or talk to the teams. No lines at the merch stands. No lines at concessions. No lines at the bathrooms. Easy parking. Same for the WEC races I've been to at CotA.

Attendance looked similarly sparse on the televised IMSA races at Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Road America & Road Atlanta.

PM me instead of dragging the thread off-topic if you want to debate & insult me some more.


your right I should bring the topic back to F1, For Cota the attendance for the first f1 race in 2012 was 117,492. skip to the 2015 race was 224,011 and 2016 265,000. As for last years cota weathertech race the attendance was 74,457. Hardly non existent , also wasn't that race weekend during a downpoor with some flooding issues in the surrounding area? I cant really remember if that was 2015 or 2016  http://www.mystatesman.com/sports/motor-sports/cota-reports-record-lone-star-mans-attendance/Um9S7KDGWRhfRvTxitMKWI/

*sigh* Total attendance (how many people purchased tickets and/or passed through the gates) over a 3-day period is not reflective of how many people/fans actually watched the IMSA & WEC & PWC race(s) from the stands/grounds... many of them were young children with their parents because attendance was so low that kids were admitted free. And "record" attendance does not mean "a lot" - it just means more than before. Besides, IMSA & WEC & PWC attendance numbers are relatively low compared to attendance at many previous NASCAR races. F1 attendance at CotA is high because it's F1 & there are many international fans in attendance.


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Operator1 said:


*sigh* Total attendance (how many people purchased tickets and/or passed through the gates) over a 3-day period is not reflective of how many people/fans actually watched the IMSA & WEC & PWC race(s) from the stands/grounds... many of them were young children with their parents because attendance was so low that kids were admitted free. And "record" attendance does not mean "a lot" - it just means more than before. Besides, IMSA & WEC & PWC attendance numbers are relatively low compared to attendance at many previous NASCAR races. F1 attendance at CotA is high because it's F1 & there are many international fans in attendance.


well if they walked thur the gates then the weekends events brought them to the track. No matter what shape or size they are or even how much they paid for the ticket.

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SamReaN can you post your source for this information?

Lets stay F1 focussed shall rather than arguing about other things.

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Lozzy said:
SamReaN can you post your source for this information?

Lets stay F1 focussed shall rather than arguing about other things.
Pretty much any of the stories from any news Outlet this week have the info from Carey, some of what Sam has said has been brought up by Ross Brawn and a few bits and bobs from the Ex-ESPN guy running the commercial side of it now.

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hopefully this means theyll open up the license to more developers  & get some competition to get us a great F1 game. enough of this 1 developer take it or leave it crap  !!

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Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:
kevinkirk said:
Operator1 said:

kevinkirk said:
...American racing fans and the races that happin in America isn't centered on nascar. Its the weather tech series, the PWC series and classic cars racing, and other not seen forms of racing...

I've personally attended many IMSA WeatherTech (previously Tudor, previously ALMS, etc.) & Pirelli World Challenge races, and track-side attendance on race day is almost non-existent - especially compared to the overflowing stands commonly seen on NASCAR television broadcasts.


your telling me the Daytona 24 hour race, sebring 12 hour, the races at cota including the WEC series, and the races at long beach,  just to name a few, attendance is allmost non existent? That's simply a lie,even without mention the internet and tv viewing


Do not call me a liar. I'm telling you that attendance was almost non-existent at the many events I personally attended. I have not been to Daytona & Sebring.


ok, tell me what weather tech race did you attend last year.

CotA. The stands were so empty that we had our choice of seats, and we moved around to sit at different parts of the track at different times. No line at the admission gate. No lines in the paddock to take pictures of the cars or talk to the teams. No lines at the merch stands. No lines at concessions. No lines at the bathrooms. Easy parking. Same for the WEC races I've been to at CotA.

Attendance looked similarly sparse on the televised IMSA races at Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Road America & Road Atlanta.

PM me instead of dragging the thread off-topic if you want to debate & insult me some more.


The  reason with COTA is it's nestled in too radical a state, that most folks including myself will not visit.  Hence the poor attendance to begin with. The track should have been located in the upper mid-west somewhere. Too bad!  I live in the US but would much rather travel to Canada to enjoy the Grand Prix there than to travel to TEXAS.

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