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So it looks like we have the complete list. Not a bad list in my opinion. 




*Warning: I have rally blinkers on, won't play the other modes much*

If I'm being 100% objective, not bad, I agree, but not great either.

We've lost the C4 and 4x 2010 cars, replaced with 4x R5 cars, 2x R2 cars, an Opel Ascona, Peugeot 205 GTi and Mitsubishi Evo VI. All solid additions and I'm a bit fan of the R5 and R2 classes representing the modern sport, but there are some very notable absentees.



Peugeot's R2 car and 206 feature highly and, of course, the notable absence of Toyota and, to a lesser extent, Skoda and Saab jump out a mile.

I understand licencing is difficult and I'm grateful that the historical highlights have carried over from DR, especially the excellent Group B and '70s' sets (though I personally wish the Stratos was in this group still). I don't envy whoever has to do it. But as a consumer, in my most basic form, I miss a Group A Celica, Fabia R5, Peugeot 206, Saab 96, a 70s or 80s Porsche and a 208 R2 and it grates to see the Celica in other games (such as AC).

However, I'm a big fan of DLC as a concept and hope the good list can be transformed into a great one with a couple of the above additions in future and don't get me wrong, I'm going to enjoy the heck out of what is there!



I'm in the same boat with dlc and I really hope cm doesn't listen to others that whine about it and just decide not to even try for more cars.

Rational people understand that licensing costs money along with all the work that goes into making the assets and making the cars sound and look great.

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Well, IMO I think the list is pretty good for a start. Obviously I would like CM to add more cars and locations through DLC, hopefully they will, but even If they don't~, I think there's a good variety of cars to have fun. :wink:

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So it looks like we have the complete list. Not a bad list in my opinion. 




*Warning: I have rally blinkers on, won't play the other modes much*

If I'm being 100% objective, not bad, I agree, but not great either.

We've lost the C4 and 4x 2010 cars, replaced with 4x R5 cars, 2x R2 cars, an Opel Ascona, Peugeot 205 GTi and Mitsubishi Evo VI. All solid additions and I'm a bit fan of the R5 and R2 classes representing the modern sport, but there are some very notable absentees.



Peugeot's R2 car and 206 feature highly and, of course, the notable absence of Toyota and, to a lesser extent, Skoda and Saab jump out a mile.

I understand licencing is difficult and I'm grateful that the historical highlights have carried over from DR, especially the excellent Group B and '70s' sets (though I personally wish the Stratos was in this group still). I don't envy whoever has to do it. But as a consumer, in my most basic form, I miss a Group A Celica, Fabia R5, Peugeot 206, Saab 96, a 70s or 80s Porsche and a 208 R2 and it grates to see the Celica in other games (such as AC).

However, I'm a big fan of DLC as a concept and hope the good list can be transformed into a great one with a couple of the above additions in future and don't get me wrong, I'm going to enjoy the heck out of what is there!


Couldn't agree more. The car list is good but I hope it gets espanded, even though I have a feeling DLCs would be more oriented to modern rally cars rather than new manufacturers (Toyota ahem ahem)

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So it looks like we have the complete list. Not a bad list in my opinion. 




*Warning: I have rally blinkers on, won't play the other modes much*

If I'm being 100% objective, not bad, I agree, but not great either.

We've lost the C4 and 4x 2010 cars, replaced with 4x R5 cars, 2x R2 cars, an Opel Ascona, Peugeot 205 GTi and Mitsubishi Evo VI. All solid additions and I'm a bit fan of the R5 and R2 classes representing the modern sport, but there are some very notable absentees.



Peugeot's R2 car and 206 feature highly and, of course, the notable absence of Toyota and, to a lesser extent, Skoda and Saab jump out a mile.

I understand licencing is difficult and I'm grateful that the historical highlights have carried over from DR, especially the excellent Group B and '70s' sets (though I personally wish the Stratos was in this group still). I don't envy whoever has to do it. But as a consumer, in my most basic form, I miss a Group A Celica, Fabia R5, Peugeot 206, Saab 96, a 70s or 80s Porsche and a 208 R2 and it grates to see the Celica in other games (such as AC).

However, I'm a big fan of DLC as a concept and hope the good list can be transformed into a great one with a couple of the above additions in future and don't get me wrong, I'm going to enjoy the heck out of what is there!


Agree. It's a good car list but not a great one. DiRT 4 has everything to be a very successful game, probably even more than DiRT Rally, and hopefully that will help Codies go for some cars and locations dlcs, down the line.

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As Dirt 4 is a big AAA product I'm guessing management will want to sell DLC down the road.

They seem to be VERY cautious about talking about DLC before release which is reasonable. People don't want to see stuff locked away from launch.

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So it looks like we have the complete list. Not a bad list in my opinion. 





*Warning: I have rally blinkers on, won't play the other modes much*

If I'm being 100% objective, not bad, I agree, but not great either.

We've lost the C4 and 4x 2010 cars, replaced with 4x R5 cars, 2x R2 cars, an Opel Ascona, Peugeot 205 GTi and Mitsubishi Evo VI. All solid additions and I'm a bit fan of the R5 and R2 classes representing the modern sport, but there are some very notable absentees.




Peugeot's R2 car and 206 feature highly and, of course, the notable absence of Toyota and, to a lesser extent, Skoda and Saab jump out a mile.

I understand licencing is difficult and I'm grateful that the historical highlights have carried over from DR, especially the excellent Group B and '70s' sets (though I personally wish the Stratos was in this group still). I don't envy whoever has to do it. But as a consumer, in my most basic form, I miss a Group A Celica, Fabia R5, Peugeot 206, Saab 96, a 70s or 80s Porsche and a 208 R2 and it grates to see the Celica in other games (such as AC).

However, I'm a big fan of DLC as a concept and hope the good list can be transformed into a great one with a couple of the above additions in future and don't get me wrong, I'm going to enjoy the heck out of what is there!




Yeah i also agree, it's a good list but, would really like the Peugeot 206 to be included, it has been in many games before, plus the kit cars lineup is lacking, where is the renault megane or  astra? Hopefully CM does DLC in the near future.

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bogani said:

As Dirt 4 is a big AAA product I'm guessing management will want to sell DLC down the road.

They seem to be VERY cautious about talking about DLC before release which is reasonable. People don't want to see stuff locked away from launch.



I agree with you there, although it makes me wonder what they can licence for DLC. Assuming Toyota and Skoda are unobtainable, I struggle to see how many rally cars they can realistically obtain. Environments and RX circuits, certainly, but cars I'm less certain of. Hope I'm wrong though.

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I too don't see much future in DLC. They already said they spoke with Citroen, Peugeot, Skoda and a bunch of other manufacturers about including their cars, earlier in development. They got nothing besides what we know. No C4, no Xsara, no 206, no 307. no Fabia, no 208 R2, no Cordoba, no other models of Imprezas. Where will they go really?

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Just because we don't have those, doesn't mean they can't get those.....

Remember a lot of choices are budgetry, it's still possible.

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Just because we don't have those, doesn't mean they can't get those.....

Remember a lot of choices are budgetry, it's still possible.


Especially brands that are already in the game. Citroën or Toyota seems to be out of the question, but Opel, Renault, Seat or Peugeot are likely to have new cars in DLC, if there are DLC (and come on, this game won't fail like Showdown).

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This video is like the Historic class roll call!!

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=272765806519787&id=100013591082861

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Wonderful!                                                   

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To amuse myself, I made this chart of the average power-to-weight ratios for each class in D4. Bearing in mind this is just power-to-weight and can't account for suspension and handling and whatnot, you can still see a nice smooth progression up almost all the classes. The R2 class is perfectly placed to help new players. Modern and historic cars are sprinkled across the whole progression too.



Compare that to DR, where many of the classes are quite close, there's not much of a gentle curve from the 1960s cars to the next step up, and there are wider disparities within more of the classes.


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dwkGravey said:
To amuse myself, I made this chart of the average power-to-weight ratios for each class in D4. Bearing in mind this is just power-to-weight and can't account for suspension and handling and whatnot, you can still see a nice smooth progression up almost all the classes. The R2 class is perfectly placed to help new players. Modern and historic cars are sprinkled across the whole progression too.



Compare that to DR, where many of the classes are quite close, there's not much of a gentle curve from the 1960s cars to the next step up, and there's more variance within more of the classes.


Awesome job, Codies were literal when they said DiRT 4 was going to have a more gentle learning curve :D

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I too don't see much future in DLC. They already said they spoke with Citroen, Peugeot, Skoda and a bunch of other manufacturers about including their cars, earlier in development. They got nothing besides what we know. No C4, no Xsara, no 206, no 307. no Fabia, no 208 R2, no Cordoba, no other models of Imprezas. Where will they go really?

Maybe UK's brand ambassador could help out for the 208 R2? https://twitter.com/catierallye1

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Did Dirt 3 and the previous titles have DLC in the past?  My only games from Codemasters are Dirt Rally and F1 2016 (both XBox One) and I've yet to see any new car be released as DLC.  I know for F1 2016 new cars shouldn't be expected, but for F1 2017 with the classic cars this could be made possible.  And I also know the PC version of Dirt got some extra cars (Alpine etc) when the console game launched but as a console gamer those cars were just in the basic game.

As a fan of the rallycross section of Dirt 4 the big absent car is the Audi S1 RX IMO.  Since when is Audi so difficult to get licenced?  I mean common, Audi's are all over Real Racing 3, CSR2, Forza 6, Forza Horizon 3, Drive Club, Project CARS, Assetto Corsa, GT:Sport,  ...

And FIA WRX already posted on Facebook they have nothing to do with the absence of the S1 RX, they said it's completely up to Codemasters and the car manufacturers.  If this car is planned as a future DLC then I have no problem with that, it's just the ONLY missing car to have the complete FIA WRX 2016 car list sin the game.

And with Porsche being out of EA's grip and the brand showing up all over the place (CSR2, FM6, FH3, Project CARS 2, Assetto Corsa, GT:Sport) I wonder why it's not in Dirt 4 either.  Again, if this is planned as future DLC content then that's fine with me.  But so far my experience with Codemasters is that releases feel like "fire and forget" and they expect us to buy the new game on an annual base.

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Did Dirt 3 and the previous titles have DLC in the past?  My only games from Codemasters are Dirt Rally and F1 2016 (both XBox One) and I've yet to see any new car be released as DLC.  I know for F1 2016 new cars shouldn't be expected, but for F1 2017 with the classic cars this could be made possible.  And I also know the PC version of Dirt got some extra cars (Alpine etc) when the console game launched but as a console gamer those cars were just in the basic game.

As a fan of the rallycross section of Dirt 4 the big absent car is the Audi S1 RX IMO.  Since when is Audi so difficult to get licenced?  I mean common, Audi's are all over Real Racing 3, CSR2, Forza 6, Forza Horizon 3, Drive Club, Project CARS, Assetto Corsa, GT:Sport,  ...

And FIA WRX already posted on Facebook they have nothing to do with the absence of the S1 RX, they said it's completely up to Codemasters and the car manufacturers.  If this car is planned as a future DLC then I have no problem with that, it's just the ONLY missing car to have the complete FIA WRX 2016 car list sin the game.

And with Porsche being out of EA's grip and the brand showing up all over the place (CSR2, FM6, FH3, Project CARS 2, Assetto Corsa, GT:Sport) I wonder why it's not in Dirt 4 either.  Again, if this is planned as future DLC content then that's fine with me.  But so far my experience with Codemasters is that releases feel like "fire and forget" and they expect us to buy the new game on an annual base.

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Yes, Dirt 3 Had DLC.. actualy few With Cars and Location..
About Audi, the problem was last year ,Audi didnt full support wrx program, now for 2017 is, so if there will be 2017 season DLC, we can Hope for liveries and new cars (Audi S1 RX and maybe KIA)..
but thats only speculation for now.. 
About Porsches no one Knows for now, it would be nice adittion..

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I hope i can help you a little with answers.
Yes, Dirt 3 Had DLC.. actualy few With Cars and Location..
About Audi, the problem was last year ,Audi didnt full support wrx program, now for 2017 is, so if there will be 2017 season DLC, we can Hope for liveries and new cars (Audi S1 RX and maybe KIA)..
but thats only speculation for now.. 
About Porsches no one Knows for now, it would be nice adittion..
Hmm that's a good point about EKS not having factory support for their Audi's until the start of this season.  I doubt any 2017 season content will make it into Dirt 4 though, that's most likely for Dirt 5 in a year from now then. ;)

Fingers crossed we can still get the 2016 Audi in a DLC and also an extra track.  Estering or the new track in Riga would be awesome! :)

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breyzipp said:
I hope i can help you a little with answers.
Yes, Dirt 3 Had DLC.. actualy few With Cars and Location..
About Audi, the problem was last year ,Audi didnt full support wrx program, now for 2017 is, so if there will be 2017 season DLC, we can Hope for liveries and new cars (Audi S1 RX and maybe KIA)..
but thats only speculation for now.. 
About Porsches no one Knows for now, it would be nice adittion..
Hmm that's a good point about EKS not having factory support for their Audi's until the start of this season.  I doubt any 2017 season content will make it into Dirt 4 though, that's most likely for Dirt 5 in a year from now then. ;)

Fingers crossed we can still get the 2016 Audi in a DLC and also an extra track.  Estering or the new track in Riga would be awesome! :)
I wouldn't rule out some 2017 RX content. Considering that DiRT4 is sponsoring solbergs polo. So if anything I can see us getting that as dlc

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Why is the Super1600 rallycross class so outdated?  We now have the Opel Corsa, Renault Clio and VW Polo.  That Corsa doesn't even race anymore in the FIA European S1600 championship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_FIA_European_Rallycross_Championship

The top cars from the drivers championship are the Skoda Fabia, Renault Twingo and Peugeot 208.

What we get seems to be a random mix of whatever.  An outdated Corsa from 2003, an almost-as-outdated Clio from 2006 and (the only proper car in this class) is the 2014 VW Polo.  I really like the supercars, RX Lite, the crosskart and the Group B for rallycross but the super 1600 class is seriously disappointing IMO.

Also a bit sad the classic mini rallycross is gone, would have been great to add some more classic RX cars to it like the Ford Escort RS1600 Mk I.

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The launch of dirt 4 in France had a ds3 with dirt 4 decals could this be a late entry and a possibly a ds3 r5?

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Chewy234 said:
The launch of dirt 4 in France had a ds3 with dirt 4 decals could this be a late entry and a possibly a ds3 r5?
Sadly the car they had there was a Citroen DS3 R3T instead of a DS3 R5 :/

(I wouldn't complain if we got that DS3 R3T in the game though!)

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That would mean adding the R3 class with some interesting cars and a FWD vs. RWD battle:
Renault Clio R3
Citroën DS3 R3
Honda Civic R3
Toyota :sweat: GT86 CS-R3

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