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In fairness to him, I see physics related traits, that I'd be changing if I was able...

I was actually hoping it was the difference between 'gamer' & 'sim', but you reckon all the Dirt Show was driven in Sim mode?

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KevM said:

In fairness to him, I see physics related traits, that I'd be changing if I was able...

I was actually hoping it was the difference between 'gamer' & 'sim', but you reckon all the Dirt Show was driven in Sim mode?


They start the show by saying that the core community wants to see full sim, replays and generated stages heavily implying that is exactly what they are showing.

What parts are you pointing at?

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I'd rather drive the game to see for myself first, but I can see something that could be tweaked in the future to possibly further improve sim handling, but actually is ok as is for gamer mode

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KevM said:


I'd rather drive the game to see for myself first, but I can see something that could be tweaked in the future to possibly further improve sim handling, but actually is ok as is for gamer mode




Haha ok. Everyone's their own expert on how it should be I guess ;)

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bogani said:



KevM said:


I'd rather drive the game to see for myself first, but I can see something that could be tweaked in the future to possibly further improve sim handling, but actually is ok as is for gamer mode




Haha ok. Everyone's an expert huh ;)


Ack, it's hard to say without having a wheel in your hand.  But it's something that's been talked about from the very first of the teaser videos.  As I see more, i become more curious of it, but like I say - it might feel ok to play.

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KevM said:



bogani said:





KevM said:



I'd rather drive the game to see for myself first, but I can see something that could be tweaked in the future to possibly further improve sim handling, but actually is ok as is for gamer mode






Haha ok. Everyone's an expert huh ;)




Ack, it's hard to say without having a wheel in your hand.  But it's something that's been talked about from the very first of the teaser videos.  As I see more, i become more curious of it, but like I say - it might feel ok to play.


I just feel the tone is a bit degrading.
"I know what should be improved but it might be ok for gamer handling"

Let's just get our hands on it first. Looking at the Wales part in the stream I think it looks great in all aspects, but that's just my opinion :)

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bogani said:

I just feel the tone is a bit degrading. 
"I know what should be improved but it might be ok for gamer handling"

Let's just get our hands on it first. Looking at the Wales part in the stream I think it looks great in all aspects, but that's just my opinion :)


 Not at all.

If I wanted to be toxic about it, I would have been more descriptive & detailed when answering your first question.

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KevM said:



bogani said:

I just feel the tone is a bit degrading. 
"I know what should be improved but it might be ok for gamer handling"

Let's just get our hands on it first. Looking at the Wales part in the stream I think it looks great in all aspects, but that's just my opinion :)




 Not at all.

If I wanted to be toxic about it, I would have been more descriptive & detailed when answering your first question.


Hm, ok, so you imply that many things are wrong, but you won't go in to it as you're such a nice guy.

Maybe they should have turned to you for input on the handling of these cars instead of Meeke/Solberg?

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bogani said:



KevM said:





bogani said:

I just feel the tone is a bit degrading. 
"I know what should be improved but it might be ok for gamer handling"

Let's just get our hands on it first. Looking at the Wales part in the stream I think it looks great in all aspects, but that's just my opinion :)






 Not at all.

If I wanted to be toxic about it, I would have been more descriptive & detailed when answering your first question.




Hm, ok, so you imply that many things are wrong, but you won't go in to it as you're such a nice guy.

Maybe they should have turned to you for input on the handling of these cars instead of Meeke/Solberg?


Calm down hot-head :p

Its one thing, one minor thing only, picked out of a few replay vids.  I suspect I can dial it out with chassis setup somewhat, so not going to ever complain about it being a flaw until I have had hands on experience of it.

Meeke is a qualified engineer & a great man to be working with on handling, but this game isn't a bespoke simulator for experienced World Rally drivers, it's for Joe Bloggs, so things may have been tamed a little to suit the market?

Kinda like when Subaru engineers set the anti-roll bars for mild predictable understeer, in the road-going Impreza WRX, so they did kill all their McRae wannabe customers?  ;)

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KevM said:



bogani said:





KevM said:







bogani said:

I just feel the tone is a bit degrading. 
"I know what should be improved but it might be ok for gamer handling"

Let's just get our hands on it first. Looking at the Wales part in the stream I think it looks great in all aspects, but that's just my opinion :)








 Not at all.

If I wanted to be toxic about it, I would have been more descriptive & detailed when answering your first question.






Hm, ok, so you imply that many things are wrong, but you won't go in to it as you're such a nice guy.

Maybe they should have turned to you for input on the handling of these cars instead of Meeke/Solberg?




Calm down hot-head :p

Its one thing, one minor thing only, picked out of a few replay vids.  I suspect I can dial it out with chassis setup somewhat, so not going to ever complain about it being a flaw until I have had hands on experience of it.

Meeke is a qualified engineer & a great man to be working with on handling, but this game isn't a bespoke simulator for experienced World Rally drivers, it's for Joe Bloggs, so things may have been tamed a little to suit the market?

Kinda like when Subaru engineers set the anti-roll bars for mild predictable understeer, in the road-going Impreza WRX, so they did kill all their McRae wannabe customers?  ;)


I'm nice and calm ;)

It might not be a bespoke simulator for driver training but I have no doubt at all they are trying to get it as close as possible with what the tech allows. If you want a casual experience there is gamer handling.

Cheers. Beer is talking now :D

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I will report my findings soon after release day!

Having re-watched SlapTRAINs Focus RX vid, there's a definite point where my suspected handling trait, goes from being obvious & constant, to a different scene, where it's completely eradicated and doing what I would hope and expect!

ie he felt it, adjusted the setup & rid the car of it

BOOM!!

Beer sounds like a plan @bogani  :D

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It might not be a bespoke simulator for driver training but I have no doubt at all they are trying to get it as close as possible with what the tech allows.



No they aren't. They do what is in a project/budget scope.  And I can list a few things which are possible by doday's tech but missing in this game.
BTW I pointed to this already: why we haven't seen any show down of physics related features? Seems like showing anything but this is intentional so far.

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