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Formula 1 2014 Belgian Grand Prix


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Why is Tossberg turning away from Hamilton? Clearly going against his nature.

Because Hamilton has yet again put him in a position where Rosberg either decides to crash or get out of the way. The point Rosberg was trying to make in Spa was that people shouldn't get out of your way just because you're Lewis Hamilton.

Drivers constantly run one another out wide. Why is Hamilton doing it any different to another doing it?

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Well I enjoyed that race even if you didn't...

We arrived in time with the end of the GP3 race, so when we got into the fan park (behind Eau Rouge), the GP2 cars were heading onto the track. They make a fantastic noise. After the first lap, we slowly walked up the hill and along the Kemmel straight. We got to Les Combes as the race was finishing. It's really that far, even if we stopped to take photos quite often. The hill is enormous. Games & TV give no concept of how steep it is, nor that the downhill after Le Source is so great.

We made our way round to the top of pouhon, the right hander named Bruxells. From there you can see miles. I'm not joking. Again, the sheer elevation is astounding. Having got the the bottom of the circuit, we made out way up the inside of Blanchimont, and made it to Bus Stop in time for the drivers parade.

We were sat in the trees on the banking at Bus Stop Chicane, so there is next to no chance we appeared on telly :( We had a good view of the braking zone, but because of the trees getting good photos was difficult, hence most of my good photos are from the support races. We had a giant screen quite close, so we got to see the Ham/Ros incident. Massa was *****, Kimi was good (finally), Ricciardo was great, again.

After the race we made out way up to the side of the grandstand to see the podium. We didn't boo Rosberg, but it was loud either way. After that, we got onto the track at Le Source, walked to the base of Eau Rouge, and made our way back to the bus. Great day!

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Tommig1995 said:

The hill is enormous. Games & TV give no concept of how steep it is, nor that the downhill after Le Source is so great.

Yea I've been to Spa myself a couple of times, and it's really amazing. I actually drove on the track a couple of months ago, that feeling of going up at Eau Rouge is insane, even at 'low' (140 km/h) speed. You really can't see where you're going, so I was glad with all my experience from my Codemasters games :)

I also noticed that in-game the Bus Stop chicane is way too flat, as you can see in my video where I drive through the actual chicane.

Here is some more info on my day at Spa, and a video summary of the couple of laps I drove.

http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/572/spa-classic-2014

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Tommig1995 said:

The hill is enormous. Games & TV give no concept of how steep it is, nor that the downhill after Le Source is so great.

Yea I've been to Spa myself a couple of times, and it's really amazing. I actually drove on the track a couple of months ago, that feeling of going up at Eau Rouge is insane, even at 'low' (140 km/h) speed. You really can't see where you're going, so I was glad with all my experience from my Codemasters games :)

I also noticed that in-game the Bus Stop chicane is way too flat, as you can see in my video.

http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/572/spa-classic-2014

There are a few places where Codies track design isn't great, but none as bad as Brands Hatch in F1 2013/GRID. The worst design of Brands Hatch I have ever seen by far.

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Tommig1995 said:

The hill is enormous. Games & TV give no concept of how steep it is, nor that the downhill after Le Source is so great.

Yea I've been to Spa myself a couple of times, and it's really amazing. I actually drove on the track a couple of months ago, that feeling of going up at Eau Rouge is insane, even at 'low' (140 km/h) speed. You really can't see where you're going, so I was glad with all my experience from my Codemasters games :)

I also noticed that in-game the Bus Stop chicane is way too flat, as you can see in my video.

http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/572/spa-classic-2014

There are a few places where Codies track design isn't great, but none as bad as Brands Hatch in F1 2013/GRID. The worst design of Brands Hatch I have ever seen by far.

I haven't been to Brands Hatch yet unfortunately, but when I drove it in F1 2013 and GRID 2/GAS I noticed it was different from what I remembered from ToCa 3

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Tommig1995 said:

The hill is enormous. Games & TV give no concept of how steep it is, nor that the downhill after Le Source is so great.

Yea I've been to Spa myself a couple of times, and it's really amazing. I actually drove on the track a couple of months ago, that feeling of going up at Eau Rouge is insane, even at 'low' (140 km/h) speed. You really can't see where you're going, so I was glad with all my experience from my Codemasters games :)

I also noticed that in-game the Bus Stop chicane is way too flat, as you can see in my video.

http://forums.codemasters.com/discussion/572/spa-classic-2014

There are a few places where Codies track design isn't great, but none as bad as Brands Hatch in F1 2013/GRID. The worst design of Brands Hatch I have ever seen by far.

I haven't been to Brands Hatch yet unfortunately, but when I drove it in F1 2013 and GRID 2/GAS I noticed it was different from what I remembered from ToCa 3

Having been to Brands loads of time its really disappointing how bad it is. Track is far too wide and the elevation change is almost non existent. Its just weird. When you are at braking zone for Druids looking back to Paddock Hill Bend it looks like there's a good amount of elevation change, but when you drive around it it feels almost flat. Same with other parts of the track. I really don't understand how they did that. And the track in places is probably close to 2 times wider than it is in real life.  

The version in game was an older version but the elevation change and track width was the same as it is now.

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Nice work on all that trekking Tom, how was the F1 cars in sound/spectacle? 

Difficult to judge because we were on a braking zone, but the GP2s are probably louder. They literally shake your chest, it's awesome. The F1 cars make a really cool sound, I just don't think it's very loud. That said, you could hear the echoes off Pouhon on the first lap. That was cool!
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I'm gonna go to the Austrian GP next year, can't wait.
Although it won't be as special as 2003 with the V10's. I remember we were still looking for  a parking slot quite far away from the actual circuit and we could already hear the cars while still sitting in our car.
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From my point of view at least, the difference between the V10's and V8's was huge. The V8's screamed and engulfed the circuit, but the V10's bellowed for miles. So happy I got to catch the end of that era by going to Silverstone in 2005. I was also especially happy Montoya won that day. 

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fIsince08 said:
The cars were faster at Spa this year than last year.
http://www.f1plus.com/en/news/item/6555-2014-spa-pace-faster-than-last-year-analysis
I saw this, really kinda interesting how much faster the cars were getting this year compared to last year. And really emphasizes how important aero has become on these cars. I do wish the cars were faster over a lap at all tracks.. but I also love that the cars don't just stick to the road due to aero. So not really sure what the solution to that is. But Monza should be quite fast this year so that's cool
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